Bloodborne Will Be Less Punishing To Attract Wider Audience

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#101 Lulu_Lulu
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I mean come on lets face it, Dark Souls doesn't pit you against odds that are too hard for you to over come, it pits you against odds that are too great for your Character to overcome. Its gameplay is far too slow and its enemies are far to stupid to to raise a challenge against the player, so they simply artificially increase the difficulty by Nerfing your character.

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#102 Truth_Hurts_U
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Very happy! Now I can maybe play one of their games with out having to Rage.

Never touch any of their souls games, because of how cheap they were at killing you and stopping you from progressing.

Keep souls for the hard core. Make this new franchise for everyone to enjoy.

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#103 Lulu_Lulu
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If they wanted to do that, it wouldve been multiplatform.

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#104 clone01
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

I mean come on lets face it, Dark Souls doesn't pit you against odds that are too hard for you to over come, it pits you against odds that are too great for your Character to overcome. Its gameplay is far too slow and its enemies are far to stupid to to raise a challenge against the player, so they simply artificially increase the difficulty by Nerfing your character.

Not really. There are many videos of low level characters beating the game.

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#105 Bigboi500
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I'm fine with it, personally. The worst thing in the world is when a game wastes your time asking you to re-do things over and over without much of a sense of growth.

I couldn't give a damn about the hardcore NEETs who have their jimmies kicked over this, and kudos to From Software for wanting to expand their audience and make more money in the business world.

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#106 Lulu_Lulu
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Because Soul Level is useless and missleading.

Are there many videos with With people Using Crappy or No Equipment at all ?

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#107 foxhound_fox
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Most people who love Souls games are going to flip a table over this.

Cows will just eat it up and excuse the hell out of it.

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#108  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@foxhound_fox said:

Most people who love Souls games are going to flip a table over this.

Cows will just eat it up and excuse the hell out of it.

Or you can love Souls and be willing to give Miyazaki and his team the benefit of the doubt to realize their vision. You know, they're a bunch of exceedingly talented folks who know what they're doing, and I think they've earned as much.

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#109 hrt_rulz01
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I might consider it now...

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#110 Merex760
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I'm okay with this. They need this game to be a system seller, just like every Sony exclusive. Would be cool if they had a mode with no regenerating health and more defensive oriented gameplay though.

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#111 X_CAPCOM_X
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These games were never that hard to begin with.

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#112 Chutebox
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Didn't they say that about dark souls 2?

Side note, playing through 2 and my character is a chick now. Wth?

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#113 ShepardCommandr
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Good and please have an offline mode for crying out loud.I don't want to have to disable my internet every time i want to play.

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#114  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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@ShepardCommandr said:

Good and please have an offline mode for crying out loud.I don't want to have to disable my internet every time i want to play.

Pretty sure you can do that from the options menu

EDIT: you do have to start the game first though

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#115 blangenakker
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Well its a new game so should we really care?

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#116 LZ71
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Having played Demon's Souls and in the process of finishing Dark Souls now, both games are hard mostly from the arbitrary need to replay the same sections over and over again to get to the one section that gives you trouble (Dark Souls is much less annoying this respect and is a much better game in my eyes for it). If by less punishing, they mean removing this and making the actual enemies tougher, I'd be all for it. Demon's and Dark Souls stand out for me because of the focus on meaningful melee combat, the atmosphere, and the sense of discovery, not because they are insanely hard. If Bloodborne wants to be in the vein of those games and keeps those features, I'll be happy with it.

But in the end it's a new IP, so they can do whatever the **** they want with it. Taking away shields (at least from what I've seen) is going to be a big change anyways.

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#117  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@foxhound_fox said:

Most people who love Souls games are going to flip a table over this.

Cows will just eat it up and excuse the hell out of it.

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#118  Edited By Sollet
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@charizard1605 said:

@foxhound_fox said:

Most people who love Souls games are going to flip a table over this.

Cows will just eat it up and excuse the hell out of it.

Or you can love Souls and be willing to give Miyazaki and his team the benefit of the doubt to realize their vision. You know, they're a bunch of exceedingly talented folks who know what they're doing, and I think they've earned as much.

Agreed! I think this game will turn out just fine.

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#119 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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What is the new online functionality? anything is better than the last 3 games....

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#120  Edited By shadiezz2012
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Dark souls games are not that hard to begin with....maybe the dated Gameplay is what make it hard for most, i don't know...the Bloodborne seem to have more better gameplay but yet still similer to souls games...still i know i will buy it and enjoy the hell out of it

for me the souls boss fights are not that hard too they do a set of 3-5 moves and i just look at how they move and attack at the right time

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Didn't they say that about dark souls 2?

Side note, playing through 2 and my character is a chick now. Wth?

oh you slept in that coffin at the beginning of the game didn't you ?!

go sleep in it again and your character will be Male again

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#121  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@LZ71

Exactly !

Thats the difference between difficult and punishing. But punishment only works if you fail.

In Dark Soul's case, in order to make sure everybody gets a taste of that punishment, you have fail, there will be cheap deaths, because if it was fair nobody would fail enough to taste that sweet sweet punishment.

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#122 Blabadon
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ITT: Lulu_Lulu is a pussy

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#123 Lulu_Lulu
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@Blabadon

How so ?

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#124  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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Well if its as difficult as demons souls...BUT doesn't have you losing souls with every death. That can be a way of keeping the difficulty but making death less of a punishment.

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#125 PurpleMan5000
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They should make the game more difficult, but give your character complex move sets and turn the game into a beat-em-up. That would be something I would want to play.

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#126 Chutebox
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@shadiezz2012: ooooooo, i did haha. Thanks man

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#127  Edited By shadiezz2012
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@Chutebox: hehe

you must be like WTF my male character have boobs ?

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#128 Lulu_Lulu
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@PurpleMan5000

Don't forget to add Smarter more Agressive Enemies !

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#129  Edited By ZombeGoast
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I'm worried about that because Dark Souls 2 did a horrible job at it. It was frustrating in a bad way trying to balance difficulty by putting bonfires every ten steps but then throwing something like the Shrine of Amana and bosses throwing enemies in a fight. Dark Souls' difficulty was just fine and didn't need to be changed.

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#130 Blabadon
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@ZombeGoast: I'm interested, could you elaborate a bit more on what you think of Shrine of Amana?

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#131 The_Last_Ride
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Why is this a big deal?

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#132 clone01
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@clone01

Because Soul Level is useless and missleading.

Are there many videos with With people Using Crappy or No Equipment at all ?

Depends how you play the game. Some people have gotten good enough at the combat that they can use low level characters. And no equipment? Probably not. Less than top tier equipment? Certainly.

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#133 Chutebox
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@shadiezz2012 said:

@Chutebox: hehe

you must be like WTF my male character have boobs ?

I noticed my death scream was different. But then I took off all equip to jump in a liquid pit (one that dmgs equip) and noticed I had boobs and shit haha

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#134  Edited By clone01
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@Chutebox said:

Didn't they say that about dark souls 2?

Side note, playing through 2 and my character is a chick now. Wth?

Did you go into the coffin near the shore at the beginning of the game? (sorry, not trying to do spoilers)...it changes your gender in the game.

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#135 Lulu_Lulu
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@clone01

Does mastering a flawed system all of a sudden make it fair balanced ?

I think you're confusing me say if Dark Souls is a fiair game with "is it possible to beat it ?"

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#136 Chutebox
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@clone01 said:

@Chutebox said:

Didn't they say that about dark souls 2?

Side note, playing through 2 and my character is a chick now. Wth?

Did you go into the coffin near the shore at the beginning of the game? (sorry, not trying to do spoilers)...it changes your gender in the game.

Ya, dude told me above lol. Fucking devs!

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#137 gago-gago
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Why couldn't there just be a difficulty setting?

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#138 clone01
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@clone01

Does mastering a flawed system all of a sudden make it fair balanced ?

I think you're confusing me say if Dark Souls is a fiair game with "is it possible to beat it ?"

I've always thought it was a fair series. There are many ways to approach it. Not trying to hate. I guess we can agree to disagree.

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#139 Lulu_Lulu
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@clone01

I'l agree to a misunterstanding....

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#140  Edited By GreySeal9
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The new approach sounds good to me, but the hardcore players will undoubtedly bitch.

To be fair, I was too soft for Demon's Souls. Loved the game but couldn't beat it.

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#141  Edited By chessmaster1989
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Wonder if this means they'll do things like reduce penalties for death etc. If that's what they mean, then that sounds fine.

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#142 2Chalupas
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They should just do difficulties.

Nothing too complex. Just 2 difficulties - 1 that is "medium" for the average player to not get overly frustrated, and another that is hardcore, with harder to come by equipment, no health regen, more powerful enemies, etc.

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#143 HalcyonScarlet
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Souls of Duty: Bloodborne, aimed at Playstation dudebro gamers :-P

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#144 Lulu_Lulu
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Or they cann just make a good game for once... :)

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#145 GamingGod999
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Doesn't this sort of game offer difficulty settings?

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#146 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@GamingGod999 said:

Doesn't this sort of game offer difficulty settings?

Nope.

You should play Dark Souls, breh.

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#147  Edited By Jynxzor
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Be carefull you allready sell millions of copies of your game.

Please don't get greedy trying to water down the formula for the everyman. It's been shown time and again if you focus on making the game what the fans want, the sales will come. When you try and deviate for the sake of "Marketshare" it's where most series just drop off the map.

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#148 Krelian-co
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@2Chalupas

Or they cann just make a good game for once... :)

you are a narutard? well that explains a lot.

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#149 AmazonAngry
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That wasn't said anywhere in the article, Char. Change your misleading title or your mod status will be revoked.

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#150 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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That wasn't said anywhere in the article, Char. Change your misleading title or your mod status will be revoked.

Read before commenting for a change.

And lulz