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#101 Krelian-co
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Yeah.... I put literally 10 Minutes into each one... :D

I killed two zombie thingies in the tutorial section of Dark Souls and one dog thingy in Dark Souls II (Outside those 3 old witches Crib theres a whole bunch of them).... I racked up 10 deaths with in this time frame, 3 by That Fat Demon thingy (the one I'm suppose to run away from) and 7 Deaths from those dog thingies.

My Experience with this series just isn't lining up with what people have been praising it for.

paraphrasing many players from dark souls:

"get gud" instead of crying about it in a forum, yes the game is hard, but for me is totally worth it, i don't care if you think people shouldn't like it, in fact no one does.

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#102 Lulu_Lulu
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I whistle and you come running.... Whos a Good Boy... Whos a Good Boy ! :p

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#103 Lulu_Lulu
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I whistle and you come running.... Whos a Good Boy... Whos a Good Boy ! :p

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#104 freedomfreak
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Considering just how much cheaper (not talking about money) Dark Souls II is compared to Dark Souls... I assumed people would be excited... I mean if Dark Souls was all about overwheliming Force then why wouldn't Souls fans to jump at the oppertunity to be aggro'd by Multiple enemies with even higher stats..... But nope.... To my surprize Dark Souls fans didn't like it one bit.... Saying it was cheap and unfair... And I'm like: "Well Duh... Isn't that what you people wanted?"

I don't even know anymore.... The series is beyond me.

Yeah, **** the Souls games. Too much effort for a clumsy, horrible performing game.

Put it in the bin.

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#106  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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Ah yes... The "Get Gud" argument....

The game is pretty simple, I had the controls down in 5 minutes, its got relatively simple mechanics, Attack, Block and Dodge....

So what am I suppose to be "getting gud" at exactly ? Grinding ? Memorizing Attack Patterns ? tinkering with Stats ?

I won't lie to you mate... I suck at those things.... Not because they are difficult... No sir, because they are so frustratingly tedious that I can't think straight long enough to hack away at brain dead damage sponges, appearently somehow because I lack the capacity to enjoy Grinding that makes me........ And you know what, I'm okay with that...... Go ahead.... Be good at blocking and dodging and not losing your patience against damage sponges..... Thats quite the Achievement. But don't expect me to envy you.....

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#107 ReadingRainbow4
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@Krelian-co

Ah yes... The "Get Gud" argument....

The game is pretty simple, I had the controls down in 5 minutes, its got relatively simple mechanics, Attack, Block and Dodge....

So what am I suppose to be "getting gud" at exactly ? Grinding ? Memorizing Attack Patterns ? tinkering with Stats ?

I won't lie to you mate... I suck at those things.... Not because they are difficult... No sir, because they are so frustratingly tedious that I can't think straight long enough to hack away at brain dead damage sponges, appearently somehow because I lack the capacity to enjoy Grinding that makes me........ And you know what, I'm okay with that...... Go ahead.... Be good at blocking and dodging and not losing your patience against damage sponges..... Thats quite the Achievement. But don't expect me to envy you.....

Lulu, you try way too hard man.

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#108 Lulu_Lulu
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I do... I really do... But what else can you do if a game's idea od difficulty is nerfing your character and forcing you to grind for better gear....... You bet your sweet ass I try too hard... Turns out you just can't beat a a giant frog shaped dragon thingy with a Stick you pick up in some dank prison.... I mean you could but whos got that kind of patience ?

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#109 GhoX
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Haters gonna haters.

People who like Souls games will like it. People who don't like Souls games will bash it. Difficulty is only an aspect of Souls games; ignoring all its other merits and focus solely on its difficulty is blind and wasteful.

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#110 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Sure In Dark Souls you get to fiddle with Stats and all that nonsense RPG fans are suckers for..... But eventually you're going to have go out and hit something just like many other Action Games.... Which Dark Souls does very well.... Sadly this is ruined by Terrible Iteration Cycles, Strategic Failures, And Cheap Deaths.... Pretty much the very Definition of Artificial Difficulty....

besides a couple of exception I never felt my deaths were cheap. you must just svck at the game. the video i provided on my original link proves you know shit wtf you're talkin about

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#111  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Ah yes... The "Get Gud" argument....

The game is pretty simple, I had the controls down in 5 minutes, its got relatively simple mechanics, Attack, Block and Dodge....

So what am I suppose to be "getting gud" at exactly ? Grinding ? Memorizing Attack Patterns ? tinkering with Stats ?

I won't lie to you mate... I suck at those things.... Not because they are difficult... No sir, because they are so frustratingly tedious that I can't think straight long enough to hack away at brain dead damage sponges, appearently somehow because I lack the capacity to enjoy Grinding that makes me........ And you know what, I'm okay with that...... Go ahead.... Be good at blocking and dodging and not losing your patience against damage sponges..... Thats quite the Achievement. But don't expect me to envy you.....

hum, you svck at memorizing atack patterns but you love HnS games an you boast about their difficulty? most bosses in HnS games require you to memorize patterns...

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#112  Edited By Krelian-co
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Lulu_Lulu said:

@Krelian-co

Ah yes... The "Get Gud" argument....

The game is pretty simple, I had the controls down in 5 minutes, its got relatively simple mechanics, Attack, Block and Dodge....

So what am I suppose to be "getting gud" at exactly ? Grinding ? Memorizing Attack Patterns ? tinkering with Stats ?

I won't lie to you mate... I suck at those things.... Not because they are difficult... No sir, because they are so frustratingly tedious that I can't think straight long enough to hack away at brain dead damage sponges, appearently somehow because I lack the capacity to enjoy Grinding that makes me........ And you know what, I'm okay with that...... Go ahead.... Be good at blocking and dodging and not losing your patience against damage sponges..... Thats quite the Achievement. But don't expect me to envy you.....

Lulu, you try way too hard man.

too hard, it is kinda sad, he reminds me of texasgoldrush, both morons with dumb opinions :(

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#113  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Vatusus said:

@Lulu_Lulu said:

@Krelian-co

Ah yes... The "Get Gud" argument....

The game is pretty simple, I had the controls down in 5 minutes, its got relatively simple mechanics, Attack, Block and Dodge....

So what am I suppose to be "getting gud" at exactly ? Grinding ? Memorizing Attack Patterns ? tinkering with Stats ?

I won't lie to you mate... I suck at those things.... Not because they are difficult... No sir, because they are so frustratingly tedious that I can't think straight long enough to hack away at brain dead damage sponges, appearently somehow because I lack the capacity to enjoy Grinding that makes me........ And you know what, I'm okay with that...... Go ahead.... Be good at blocking and dodging and not losing your patience against damage sponges..... Thats quite the Achievement. But don't expect me to envy you.....

hum, you svck at memorizing atack patterns but you love HnS games an you boast about their difficulty? most bosses in HnS games require you to memorize patterns...

hypocrisy is strong with lulu we all know that by now, he dislikes the game and gives some dumb reasons and hyperboles, yeah lul we all play dark souls to get a stick and kill a frog with it, you who hasn't even played the game more than 5 minutes know best, tell me all about it lulu

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#114 clr84651
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@MonsieurX said:

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LOL XposBone is so fucked in 2015 LOLOL

Because Bloodborne is hard?

Because X1 wont get this game.

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#115 PurpleMan5000
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I like the trial and error, pattern recognition, etc gameplay of the Souls games. I just don't like the combat system or the controls. I don't like how ranged attacks feel, and the melee combat is just slow-paced and clunky. If I am going to repeat 30 minutes of gameplay, it needs to be fun or I am going to quit playing.

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#116 hehe101
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the hype this dark souls rip off is getting is embarrassing, just because people are desperate for something new

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#117 SexyJazzCat
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@hehe101: you mean a rip off of a rip off of demons souls?

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#118 Big_Pecks
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Why is this news? It's so self-congratulatory for no reason.

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#119  Edited By clyde46
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@hehe101 said:

the hype this dark souls rip off is getting is embarrassing, just because people are desperate for something new

You do know that this is the successor to Demon Souls? The original.

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#120 lostrib
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@clr84651 said:
@MonsieurX said:

@lglz1337 said:

LOL XposBone is so fucked in 2015 LOLOL

Because Bloodborne is hard?

Because X1 wont get this game.

so what's the issue?

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#121 hehe101
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@clyde46 said:

@hehe101 said:

the hype this dark souls rip off is getting is embarrassing, just because people are desperate for something new

You do know that this is the successor to Demon Souls? The original.

It can be whatever it wants its just an easier version smh

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#122  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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Yes sir... When It comes to Grinding and Learning By Constantly Dying, I suck at it.... I suck hard !

FYI I don't play most HnS games...... For all I know you maybe right.... About most of them that is..... Just not about the select few that I know of.

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Whatever you say, Fido......

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#124 dommeus
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

Yeah.... I put literally 10 Minutes into each one... :D

I killed two zombie thingies in the tutorial section of Dark Souls and one dog thingy in Dark Souls II (Outside those 3 old witches Crib theres a whole bunch of them).... I racked up 10 deaths with in this time frame, 3 by That Fat Demon thingy (the one I'm suppose to run away from) and 7 Deaths from those dog thingies.

My Experience with this series just isn't lining up with what people have been praising it for.

Ouch, Lulu_Lulu. That won't do. That won't do at aaaaaall. I haven't played Dark Souls 2 myself. Man, I wouldn't buy DS2, if I had such a rough time with the first one :p

Dark Souls 2 is definitely easier than the first. For one, if you are struggling with a boss you can just grind the enemies in an area until they don't re-appear, and secondly the net-code is much improved (on the PC at least), meaning you can summon bros for literally any boss you are struggling with.

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#125 l34052
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I never saw the appeal of super hard frustrating games, to me games should be fun and some thing you share some laughs with with friends or family.

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#126 Heil68
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@Vatusus said:
@MonsieurX said:

@lglz1337 said:

@MonsieurX said:

@lglz1337 said:

LOL XposBone is so fucked in 2015 LOLOL

Because Bloodborne is hard?

no because all those exclusives for ps4 next year

F***** packed son

playstation 4 will only grow and grow we all know the end story of this gen

Xbox brand will always be the 2nd or 3rd rated console ''óhara trying to be a nike'

The Order

Bloodborne

Until Dawn

omigawd,such a huge year

Uncharted 4

ABZU

No Man's Sky (will come to PC later but its PS4 timed exclusive)

Also maybe 2015 (not confirmed):

Wild

Rime

Wow, shows SONY is serious about the by gamers FOR gamers mantra.

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#127 Capitan_Kid
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@Lulu_Lulu: You learn how to block and attack. Which your dumbass couldn't do. Maybe you should watch some DS vids so that you can understand the game. You've no right to judge it when you cant do something as simple as attack

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#128 clr84651
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@lostrib said:

@clr84651 said:
@MonsieurX said:

@lglz1337 said:

LOL XposBone is so fucked in 2015 LOLOL

Because Bloodborne is hard?

Because X1 wont get this game.

so what's the issue?

It's about the X1 not getting the game. Not because it's a hard game.

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#129 Krelian-co
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I never saw the appeal of super hard frustrating games, to me games should be fun and some thing you share some laughs with with friends or family.

to me is just a game that i really like that is hard, the difficulty didn't matter to me tbh the game was awesome and i wasn't going to let some difficulty stop me from finishing it.

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#130 Lulu_Lulu
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I took a Shieldless Class....

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#131 princeofshapeir
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I took a Shieldless Class....

You can get a shield in every Souls game right after the tutorial area

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#132 Lulu_Lulu
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I didn't leave the Tutorial Area......

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#133  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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I didn't leave the Tutorial Area......

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#134 Lulu_Lulu
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What ? I wanted to see if I could beat it with a Stick...... I wanted to see if my years of playing other skillfull games would be of any use there..... Turns out that wasn't the case.... Just another game that wants me to grind to get better gear to beat damage sponges..... Been there done that. If thats what you call difficulty then more power to ya.

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#135 Krelian-co
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@Lulu_Lulu said:

@princeofshapeir

I didn't leave the Tutorial Area......

hey but he knows all about dark souls and why you shouldn't like it!

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#136 Alcapello
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I don't get why they not releasing any info the game coming in 4 month and all the major show has gone by WTF?????

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#137 Lulu_Lulu
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They wana to maximize as many deaths as possible by sending you in Blind and Stupid.

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#138 Alcapello
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@Alcapello

They wana to maximize as many deaths as possible by sending you in Blind and Stupid.

Back in the day coming to this site meant getting the latest in every detail of every big game every day.

Today it mean which big company gonna buy the ad space at the top, destiny, titanfall COD etc.

Thanks microspot

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#139 Lulu_Lulu
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I know right..... Right now I'm having trouble sifting through all this hype just so I can get one specific detail about President Evil Revelations 2.

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@Krelian-co said:

you don't get it, no one cares about that, people play souls games because they are good, not only because they are difficult, i haven't played ninja gaiden because i think they are mindless button mashers.

Button mashing in Ninja Gaiden is the quickest way to get to the game over screen.

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#141 Gue1
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@Vatusus said:

@Lulu_Lulu said:

Appearently Cheap deaths are Hardcore now.....

I think this video is for you

Loading Video...

terrific video. Funny and instructive. I hope Lulu learns something from it.

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#142 Lulu_Lulu
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Yeah.... Its riddle with Cheap Deaths..... But I think what pissed me off even more with this is that Dragon's Dogma tried to copy it and failed miserably, just making things worse.

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#143  Edited By clone01
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@clr84651 said:

@lostrib said:

@clr84651 said:
@MonsieurX said:

@lglz1337 said:

LOL XposBone is so fucked in 2015 LOLOL

Because Bloodborne is hard?

Because X1 wont get this game.

so what's the issue?

It's about the X1 not getting the game. Not because it's a hard game.

Does that idea get you excited?

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#144 clone01
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@ReadingRainbow4

What ? I wanted to see if I could beat it with a Stick...... I wanted to see if my years of playing other skillfull games would be of any use there..... Turns out that wasn't the case.... Just another game that wants me to grind to get better gear to beat damage sponges..... Been there done that. If thats what you call difficulty then more power to ya.

Not a stick, but a dagger seems adequate...if you'd like to search, this person beat it soul level 1 with zero armor...this is an excerpt. I get what you're doing here, but you're frankly just wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjV2ePW7kM

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#145 Lulu_Lulu
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uhm...... No Boss Fight ?

No Mini Boss Fight ?

No 5 Enemy Aggro ?

Just a bunch of Slow Zombies..... In the Begin Of Dark Souls II, before the 3 withes house, theres a small pen with abit 7 dog thingies...... I had similar class (Adventurer) and wielded the dagger two handed stance..... Those Things are fast and relentless.... Got a video for that, preferably a fun one.

Oh and Boring. Damn that was so boring ! I forget Dark Souls is not know for its wide range of gameplay mechanics unlike Dragon's Dogma.

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#146  Edited By clone01
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@clone01

uhm...... No Boss Fight ?

No Mini Boss Fight ?

No 5 Enemy Aggro ?

Just a bunch of Slow Zombies..... In the Begin Of Dark Souls II, before the 3 withes house, theres a small pen with abit 7 dog thingies...... I had similar class (Adventurer) and wielded the dagger two handed stance..... Those Things are fast and relentless.... Got a video for that, preferably a fun one.

Oh and Boring. Damn that was so boring ! I forget Dark Souls is not know for its wide range of gameplay mechanics unlike Dragon's Dogma.

I told you that the user had many videos. Its up to you if you want to research. Your comment was that you couldn't use a low level character or low level weapon and do well in the game. Apparently you can. I'd like to see a similar video from you. Or was it too cheap for your tastes.

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#147 Krelian-co
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@Gue1

Yeah.... Its riddle with Cheap Deaths..... But I think what pissed me off even more with this is that Dragon's Dogma tried to copy it and failed miserably, just making things worse.

you must know all bout that since you played it more than 5 mins, amirite?

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#148 Lulu_Lulu
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200 Hours to be Exact.... 200 Hours I'l never get back.... :(

actually I only want 125 of those 200 hours back.... There was 25 Hours of playtime that I didn't regret.

@clone01

Oh I'm sure there is a video of Some Boss Killing action with Nothing but a Dagger, but its probably some sort exploitation.... After all. My strategy was to run in circles and isolate the enemy then strike when its safe to do so.... Which leads to hour long combat encounters....

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#149 clone01
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@Krelian-co

200 Hours to be Exact.... 200 Hours I'l never get back.... :(

actually I only want 125 of those 200 hours back.... There was 25 Hours of playtime that I didn't regret.

@clone01

Oh I'm sure there is a video of Some Boss Killing action with Nothing but a Dagger, but its probably some sort exploitation.... After all. My strategy was to run in circles and isolate the enemy then strike when its safe to do so.... Which leads to hour long combat encounters....

Why would it be an exploit?

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#150  Edited By Krelian-co
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As always you are full of bullsh1t, but that's nothing new, i would go with you haven't played this game more than 10 minutes, since you are so obviously ignorant about it, also 125 + 25 = 150, not 200, not that it matters though, expecting someone like you to know basic school math is too much.

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@Krelian-co

200 Hours to be Exact.... 200 Hours I'l never get back.... :(

actually I only want 125 of those 200 hours back.... There was 25 Hours of playtime that I didn't regret.

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@freedomfreak

Yeah.... I put literally 10 Minutes into each one... :D

I killed two zombie thingies in the tutorial section of Dark Souls and one dog thingy in Dark Souls II (Outside those 3 old witches Crib theres a whole bunch of them).... I racked up 10 deaths with in this time frame, 3 by That Fat Demon thingy (the one I'm suppose to run away from) and 7 Deaths from those dog thingies.