After listening to IW this week Shane said that lighting can be issue too.
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]
I total agree with Tom Review.....a fair and honest review for the Zelda: Skyward Sword.
ActionRemix
You agree with someone's opinion about a game that you've never played, simply because he flopped it?
Most people in the thread agree with IGN out of hype alone.I have reached phase two of the game 20 hours in and IGN's is a very accurate review actually.
Most people in the thread agree with IGN out of hype alone.[QUOTE="ActionRemix"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]
You agree with someone's opinion about a game that you've never played, simply because he flopped it?
SuperFlakeman
I have reached phase two of the game 20 hours in and IGN's is a very accurate review actually.
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword is the greatest Zelda game ever created. It's the best game for Wii and one of the finest video game accomplishments of the past 10 years.IGNGreatest Zelda ever? Hellllllllllll no.
[quote="IGN"]The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword is the greatest Zelda game ever created. It's the best game for Wii and one of the finest video game accomplishments of the past 10 years.ActionRemixGreatest Zelda ever? Hellllllllllll no.
Is that how far you got into the review?
Arriving at dungeons and temples now takes hours, and none of that time is wasted. The sheer brilliance on display here, evident more and more as you journey deeper into the game, will stun even the most jaded gamer.Once again, Nintendo is demonstrating its unparalleled ability to craft some of the greatest gameplay this industry has ever seen.
Zelda: Skyward Sword is the purest, most perfect realization of Nintendo's ambitious goals for motion-controlled gaming. It somehow took five years, but the definitive proof plays out before you on the screen.IGN
This is exactly how I feel.
Geez, Zelda flopped... good. About time Nintendo got a kick to the nads on System Wars. Thank you Tom. Sweet, Uncharted 3 is the better game, even Uncharted 1 Drake's Fortune is the better game.
Arriving at dungeons and temples now takes hours, and none of that time is wasted. The sheer brilliance on display here, evident more and more as you journey deeper into the game, will stun even the most jaded gamer.Once again, Nintendo is demonstrating its unparalleled ability to craft some of the greatest gameplay this industry has ever seen.Zelda: Skyward Sword is the purest, most perfect realization of Nintendo's ambitious goals for motion-controlled gaming. It somehow took five years, but the definitive proof plays out before you on the screen.IGNIt's true, it took me five hours to get to the first dungeon. Faron woods is just straight-up boring. Filler/padding all of the way through. A few hours after I beat the third dungeon, the game had the nerve to shuffle me through that borefest for a second time, ending with a Mario inspired time trial, and then the game makes you replay the first dungeon! Nothing new. I'm just running through the same area doing boring filler fetch/find quests. I hear this won't be my last visit, either. As far as motion control goes, it's alright, but there's nothing going on in the game that couldn't be accomplished with a dual analog gamepad.
Faron woods is just straight-up boring. Filler/padding all of the way through. ActionRemix
I think Faron Woods, Eldin Volcano and Laynaru Desert are some of the best designed 3D areas in a video game ever.
The highlight of SS so far has been the surface world.
[QUOTE="ActionRemix"] Faron woods is just straight-up boring. Filler/padding all of the way through. SuperFlakeman
I think Faron Woods, Eldin Volcano and Laynaru Desert are some of the best designed 3D areas in a video game ever.
The highlight of SS so far has been the surface world.
I couldn't disagree more, but alright. Eldin Volcano and Laynaru Desert are OKAY and Faron Woods is a complete disaster. Wow.Bold words considering that game in your sig.Geez, Zelda flopped... good. About time Nintendo got a kick to the nads on System Wars. Thank you Tom. Sweet, Uncharted 3 is the better game, even Uncharted 1 Drake's Fortune is the better game.
contracts420
Just like that inFamous 2 review, amirite??? :lol:I total agree with Tom Review.....a fair and honest review for the Zelda: Skyward Sword.
AtariKidX
[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]Most people in the thread agree with IGN out of hype alone.ActionRemix
I have reached phase two of the game 20 hours in and IGN's is a very accurate review actually.
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword is the greatest Zelda game ever created. It's the best game for Wii and one of the finest video game accomplishments of the past 10 years.IGNGreatest Zelda ever? Hellllllllllll no. So better than Ocarina of Time, yet not the best game of the last decade. Zelda: OOT no where near best game ever made confirmed. MGS4, Half Life 2 >
So better than Ocarina of Time, yet not the best game of the last decade. Zelda: OOT no where near best game ever made confirmed. MGS4, Half Life 2 >Mozelleple112
OoT was a far bigger deal when it came out than either MGS4 or HL2 were when they came out.
Anyone can mock MGS4, but saying bad things about OoT is still taboo.
I actually do not give a crap about what some random reviewer thinks about a game, what I dont like is that people are using this review as an oppertunity to proclaim Skyward Sword a crap game, or to say stuff like: "7.5? That's really disappointing, cancelling my preorder" and just generally bash the zelda franchise. I mean C'MON! Look at all the other reviews, 9s and 10s mostly! The opinion of ONE person is not gospel fact.People pay too much attention to scores.
el3m2tigre
[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]
I total agree with Tom Review.....a fair and honest review for the Zelda: Skyward Sword.
ActionRemix
You agree with someone's opinion about a game that you've never played, simply because he flopped it?
Most people in the thread agree with IGN out of hype alone. I agree with the hundreds of reviews that contradict what Tom thinks.[QUOTE="bbkkristian"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"]Just like that inFamous 2 review, amirite??? :lol: you're doing it again. Darn it! :P the bait is so delicious!I total agree with Tom Review.....a fair and honest review for the Zelda: Skyward Sword.
BrunoBRS
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Good interview. It would've been nice to know more about how he calculates his scores, though.TomMcShea
Under the score in every review, we have a link you can click on to see our guidelines. A game in the 7 range is described as "good overall, and likely worth playing by fans of the particular genre or by those otherwise interested. While its strengths outweigh its weaknesses, a game that falls in this range tends to have noticeable faults."
My hands are kind of tied with scores. We have certain criteria we have to follow so I can't just give out any number I want. When I submit a review for QA (a process where everyone on staff reads and weighs in on my thoughts), I do so without a score, and see what they think it sounded like. In the case of SS, everyone confirmed my belief that this really is a Good game. It would have been much easier if I had slapped on an 8.5 to the same text, and I would have gotten far less grief for it, but I want to be as informative as possible.
So, yeah, the score is the last part of a review and the entire staff talks about where this number should fall. SS has strengths but serious weaknesses, so it's firmly in the Good range. Because I really enjoyed it, I made it a 7.5 instead of a 7.0, but anything above that would contradict my evaluation.
so, is Gunstringer a better game than Zelda SS? sorry, but something doesn't quite compute here.Willy105:
Mario 3D Land flopped...and....
Fabz_95:
Mario 3D Lands flop is a blow for Nintendo but Skyward Sword could make up for it.
Darkspineslayer:
Nintendo property being underscored by gamespot is nothing earth shattering. The fact that Sonic Generations got the same score as the latest Mario title however...
789shadow:
Bored to Death.
Darklink77:
We should give it to MS based on Halo's ten year anniversary.
Ten years of being better than every single one of Sony's first party games should mean something, right?
*time lapse*
Darklink77:
Skyward Sword a 7.5?! Holy. F***ing. S***. Tom Mcshea. I mean, goddamn.
Willy105:
Hmmmm...maybe Nintendo deserves a point for this, just for irony.
Fabz_95:
This day will be LEGENDARY.
I think we should give Nintendo a pity point.
DarkLink77:
If we gave pity points, Sony would be winning far and away by now.
Let's be consistent here.
Willy105:
Then who wins?
Fabz_95:
I have no idea. Thanks to all the Zelda drama this week was anything but boring, there were a ton of good multiplats released over these two weeks, the Zelda and Mario games flopped, Halo CE Anniversairy scored an 8.0 (not too sure about the hype on that one) as did a DS game that I've never heard of.
What do we do?
Willy105:
We can't say Bored to Death, since this was anything but boring. I think we finally found a flaw in the Battle Royale scoring system.
Darklink77:
It's clearly a MS victory, like I said before.
Pretty sure Anniversary met hype.
Willy105:
Then it is decided, Microsoft wins for the third time in a row.
Who would have thought, huh?
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What is this...Microsoft wins for an HD rerelease? Bored to death was the right answer.ActionRemixcan't say bored to death with the outrage that's going on :P i'd say nintendo wins even though their games haven't really won, but because of how much entertainment and content they've provided to SW :P
[QUOTE="ActionRemix"]What is this...Microsoft wins for an HD rerelease? Bored to death was the right answer.BrunoBRScan't say bored to death with the outrage that's going on :P i'd say nintendo wins even though their games haven't really won, but because of how much entertainment and content they've provided to SW :P
Exactly, Zelda flopping brought tons of entertainment. Sheep definitely had the spotlight for most of this month. Uncharted 3 met hype and was a pretty boring release aside from a couple Gears 3 > UC3 topics.
can't say bored to death with the outrage that's going on :P i'd say nintendo wins even though their games haven't really won, but because of how much entertainment and content they've provided to SW :P[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="ActionRemix"]What is this...Microsoft wins for an HD rerelease? Bored to death was the right answer.BPoole96
Exactly, Zelda flopping brought tons of entertainment. Sheep definitely had the spotlight for most of this month. Uncharted 3 met hype and was a pretty boring release aside from a couple Gears 3 > UC3 topics.
We already gave Cows a point for Uncharted in the last Battle Royal. A decision I support, before everyone retroactively flips a s***.More like...Nintendo loses a point. :PActionRemixUnfortunately, we don't do that. We considered that a while back, but ultimately decided not to. Ironically, we were considering it for Nintendo last time, too. :P
[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] can't say bored to death with the outrage that's going on :P i'd say nintendo wins even though their games haven't really won, but because of how much entertainment and content they've provided to SW :PDarkLink77
Exactly, Zelda flopping brought tons of entertainment. Sheep definitely had the spotlight for most of this month. Uncharted 3 met hype and was a pretty boring release aside from a couple Gears 3 > UC3 topics.
We already gave Cows a point for Uncharted in the last Battle Royal. A decision I support, before everyone retroactively flips a s***.Oh okay. I think I missed that once then
I really don't get it, you guys give points for what exactly?Willy105:
Mario 3D Land flopped...and....
Fabz_95:
Mario 3D Lands flop is a blow for Nintendo but Skyward Sword could make up for it.
Darkspineslayer:
Nintendo property being underscored by gamespot is nothing earth shattering. The fact that Sonic Generations got the same score as the latest Mario title however...789shadow:
Bored to Death.
Darklink77:
We should give it to MS based on Halo's ten year anniversary.
Ten years of being better than every single one of Sony's first party games should mean something, right?
*time lapse*
Darklink77:
Skyward Sword a 7.5?! Holy. F***ing. S***. Tom Mcshea. I mean, goddamn.
Willy105:
Hmmmm...maybe Nintendo deserves a point for this, just for irony.
Fabz_95:
This day will be LEGENDARY.
I think we should give Nintendo a pity point.
DarkLink77:
If we gave pity points, Sony would be winning far and away by now.
Let's be consistent here.
Willy105:
Then who wins?
Fabz_95:
I have no idea. Thanks to all the Zelda drama this week was anything but boring, there were a ton of good multiplats released over these two weeks, the Zelda and Mario games flopped, Halo CE Anniversairy scored an 8.0 (not too sure about the hype on that one) as did a DS game that I've never heard of.
What do we do?
Willy105:
We can't say Bored to Death, since this was anything but boring. I think we finally found a flaw in the Battle Royale scoring system.
Darklink77:
It's clearly a MS victory, like I said before.
Pretty sure Anniversary met hype.
Willy105:
Then it is decided, Microsoft wins for the third time in a row.
Who would have thought, huh?
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Willy105
darklink's comment on pity points made me lol at 1 in the morning :lol:BrunoBRSGlad we could make you laugh. ;)
[QUOTE="mojito1988"]
Zelda Flopped cause it is Handist!!!! (No left handed mode WTF!!!!)
BPoole96
Really? That is ridiculous. As a left handed person, I am highly offended by this
Its true try getting the sword from the stone if you use thewiimote in your left hand it will make you cry....
Grr Nintendo you know what the worst part of this is? LINK IS LEFT HANDED!! They moved him over to right handed for motion issues.. so sad.
[QUOTE="BPoole96"]
[QUOTE="mojito1988"]
Zelda Flopped cause it is Handist!!!! (No left handed mode WTF!!!!)
mojito1988
Really? That is ridiculous. As a left handed person, I am highly offended by this
Its true try getting the sword from the stone if you use thewiimote in your left hand it will make you cry....
Grr Nintendo you know what the worst part of this is? LINK IS LEFT HANDED!! They moved him over to right handed for motion issues.. so sad.
It's not Nintendo's fault you're genetically inferior. :o :P[QUOTE="mojito1988"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]
Really? That is ridiculous. As a left handed person, I am highly offended by this
DarkLink77
Its true try getting the sword from the stone if you use thewiimote in your left hand it will make you cry....
Grr Nintendo you know what the worst part of this is? LINK IS LEFT HANDED!! They moved him over to right handed for motion issues.. so sad.
It's not Nintendo's fault you're genetically inferior. :o :Pit's True!! My right hand is pathetic........sob ;;.....(hides in the corner of hyrule that people that cannot hold the wiimote in the right hand go to die...)
[QUOTE="mojito1988"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]
Really? That is ridiculous. As a left handed person, I am highly offended by this
DarkLink77
Its true try getting the sword from the stone if you use thewiimote in your left hand it will make you cry....
Grr Nintendo you know what the worst part of this is? LINK IS LEFT HANDED!! They moved him over to right handed for motion issues.. so sad.
It's not Nintendo's fault you're genetically inferior. :o :P we lefties are twins that were so badass we kill and absorb your own brother before we're even born (google it). we then become stronger and end up as famous musicians or awesome videogame characters. top that.[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="mojito1988"]It's not Nintendo's fault you're genetically inferior. :o :P we lefties are twins that were so badass we kill and absorb your own brother before we're even born (google it). we then become stronger and end up as famous musicians or awesome videogame characters. top that.Its true try getting the sword from the stone if you use thewiimote in your left hand it will make you cry....
Grr Nintendo you know what the worst part of this is? LINK IS LEFT HANDED!! They moved him over to right handed for motion issues.. so sad.
BrunoBRS
Back when I used to play basketball, being left handed helped me tremendously since everyone would expect me to go to the right
we lefties are twins that were so badass we kill and absorb your own brother before we're even born (google it). we then become stronger and end up as famous musicians or awesome videogame characters. top that.[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It's not Nintendo's fault you're genetically inferior. :o :PBPoole96
Back when I used to play basketball, being left handed helped me tremendously since everyone would expect me to go to the right
being a lefty gives you the upper hand (pun unintended) in practically any competitive activity, since everyone practices against the right handed people. we rule.Generally, it's determined by whoever did the best between the time the last Battle Royal was published, and now. The best way to earn a point is to have an exclusive meet hype on SW.how is points even gained in the battle royal thing? what are the fanboys getting points for?
Mario1331
[QUOTE="Mario1331"]Generally, it's determined by whoever did the best between the time the last Battle Royal was published, and now. The best way to earn a point is to have an exclusive meet hype on SW.I think you could have made a special case for a point loss this time. It's not every day that a game is hyped GOTY and flops 2.5 points. :Phow is points even gained in the battle royal thing? what are the fanboys getting points for?
DarkLink77
Did Tom know that The Pointer for Skyward Sword isn't Infared?
I was wondering why the pointer was seeming like it was really slow for some reason and why there was a "centering" option, and it wasn't until I hit my home menu did I realize that it was because the pointer is Motion Plus based instead of Infared.
That would explain why Link seemed to be "looking down" .
Did Tom know that The Pointer for Skyward Sword isn't Infared?
I was wondering why the pointer was seeming like it was really slow for some reason and why there was a "centering" option, and it wasn't until I hit my home menu did I realize that it was because the pointer is Motion Plus based instead of Infared.
That would explain why Link seemed to be "looking down" .
LegatoSkyheart
Yeah, he said that it doesn't matter what method they used, it was still "bad".
And yeah you have to get used to the fact that you are not "pointing" in SS.
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