Black Desert Online new Update (Dragon what? Deep who?)

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#1  Edited By DarthRamms
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I have never seen an online game this lively before. I'm surprise how often they release a update for this game. Apparently update will bring a new class called the blader and a more dynamic world.

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#2 BlueEyedCasva
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On a technical standpoint it blows away any MMO I have seen. Is it close to being release I would like to try my hands on this game.

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But is the gameplay any good... and the game rules? if so ... fantastic.

Ib4 racist "asian" comments from peasants.

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#4  Edited By GodspellWH
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Blizzard better make their next MMO go beyond this. I'm impress how much detail they can put into a game like this. Technically this is what MMO should thrive for if they have the budget and means. No excuse from developers.

And does anyone even care about Deep down lol?

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#5  Edited By DarthRamms
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@godspellwh said:

Blizzard better make their next MMO go beyond this. I'm impress how much detail they can put into a game like this. Technically this is what MMO should thrive for if they have the budget and means. No excuse from developers.

I don't think Blizzard has it in them to make a another MMO

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@DarthRamms said:

@godspellwh said:

Blizzard better make their next MMO go beyond this. I'm impress how much detail they can put into a game like this. Technically this is what MMO should thrive for if they have the budget and means. No excuse from developers.

I don't think Blizzard has it in them to make a another MMO

This. Blizzard are not a fraction of the same team they were years ago....

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@MBirdy88 said:

@DarthRamms said:

@godspellwh said:

Blizzard better make their next MMO go beyond this. I'm impress how much detail they can put into a game like this. Technically this is what MMO should thrive for if they have the budget and means. No excuse from developers.

I don't think Blizzard has it in them to make a another MMO

This. Blizzard are not a fraction of the same team they were years ago....

I'm still looking forward to their newer games. Probably have to lower my expect now.

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They should use the engine to make a single player game like Skyrim/TW3.

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@godspellwh said:

And does anyone even care about Deep down lol?

I thought it was cancelled lol

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That looks pretty good, I will keep an eye on it.

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@MBirdy88 said:

But is the gameplay any good... and the game rules? if so ... fantastic.

Ib4 racist "asian" comments from peasants.

Korean MMOs suck.

True story.

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#12  Edited By CanYouDiglt
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@godspellwh said:

Blizzard better make their next MMO go beyond this. I'm impress how much detail they can put into a game like this. Technically this is what MMO should thrive for if they have the budget and means. No excuse from developers.

And does anyone even care about Deep down lol?

From a business stand point it is smart to not have a super amazing looking mmo. MMO are tough on PCs in general with the size and amount of people but the better graphically it is the less people can play it. Blizzard could easily make a mmo look far better with their money and talent but then it really cuts down on the player base. I play WoW and never have problems but I know many start to have a lot of problems when there is 25 people or more using spells/skills, plus the boss casting, plus adds, and maybe environment effects also. You can not have the player base that WoW has and expect them all to have gamer PCs.

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@godspellwh said:

Blizzard better make their next MMO go beyond this. I'm impress how much detail they can put into a game like this. Technically this is what MMO should thrive for if they have the budget and means. No excuse from developers.

And does anyone even care about Deep down lol?

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#14  Edited By NoodleFighter
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@CanYouDiglt said:

@godspellwh said:

Blizzard better make their next MMO go beyond this. I'm impress how much detail they can put into a game like this. Technically this is what MMO should thrive for if they have the budget and means. No excuse from developers.

And does anyone even care about Deep down lol?

From a business stand point it is smart to not have a super amazing looking mmo. MMO are tough on PCs in general with the size and amount of people but the better graphically it is the less people can play it. Blizzard could easily make a mmo look far better with their money and talent but then it really cuts down on the player base. I play WoW and never have problems but I know many start to have a lot of problems when there is 25 people or more using spells/skills, plus the boss casting, plus adds, and maybe environment effects also. You can not have the player base that WoW has and expect them all to have gamer PCs.

These are the current system and minimum requirements for the game

Not sure what framerate and resolution they mean a long with how many players and AI on screen, but it seems pretty optimized to me. The devs are even looking into DirectX12 support.

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ewww the guy is playing as a kid, pedobear detected. This is the only mmo im looking forward to (other than gw2 expansion) but when is this shit coming out in NA? If its 2016 or even later than f*ck that... The game reminds me of Dragon's Dogma is DA was a real mmo and i love me some DA.

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@CanYouDiglt said:

@godspellwh said:

Blizzard better make their next MMO go beyond this. I'm impress how much detail they can put into a game like this. Technically this is what MMO should thrive for if they have the budget and means. No excuse from developers.

And does anyone even care about Deep down lol?

From a business stand point it is smart to not have a super amazing looking mmo. MMO are tough on PCs in general with the size and amount of people but the better graphically it is the less people can play it. Blizzard could easily make a mmo look far better with their money and talent but then it really cuts down on the player base. I play WoW and never have problems but I know many start to have a lot of problems when there is 25 people or more using spells/skills, plus the boss casting, plus adds, and maybe environment effects also. You can not have the player base that WoW has and expect them all to have gamer PCs.

this is on pc, there's something called being able to scale your graphics down. good visuals attract the eye of costumer so i wouldn't say its smart to release average looking mmo's when the gaming industry if full of that genre. You release a good looking game (black desert is a perfect example) and people notice your game. I have never heard of that dev, hate korean pos mmo's but this one im interested in of at least trying because it looks good and for once you're able to play as a mage without a stupid staff.

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#17 Maroxad
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Looks solid. Especially for an mmo.

@MBirdy88 said:

But is the gameplay any good... and the game rules? if so ... fantastic.

Ib4 racist "asian" comments from peasants.

Well, the combat looks to be more fun than the blunder that was Guild Wars 2's combat. Will it be as good as WoW's, that remains to be seen.

However, the game will be a grindfest with an infinitely high level cap >_> So my hopes are not very high.

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#18 GodspellWH
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@silversix_:

I agree they did a good job standing out from the rest of the market.

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#19  Edited By deactivated-594be627b82ba
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The real questions are: is it going to be more than a grind fest? is it going to have more than fetch quests? is it going to have more than kill x numbers of enemies? That always been my biggest problem with mmo, they are boring as **** when it comes to gameplay.

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Looks like an Assassin's Creed MMO.

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@da_illest101 said:

The real questions are: is it going to be more than a grind fest? is it going to have more than fetch quests? is it going to have more than kill x numbers of enemies? That always been my biggest problem with mmo, they are boring as **** when it comes to gameplay.

From what I have been hearing

  1. Quests barely give any exp, if any at all.
  2. There is no level cap and 50-51 takes twice as long as 49-50
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#22  Edited By princeofshapeir
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@Maroxad said:

@da_illest101 said:

The real questions are: is it going to be more than a grind fest? is it going to have more than fetch quests? is it going to have more than kill x numbers of enemies? That always been my biggest problem with mmo, they are boring as **** when it comes to gameplay.

From what I have been hearing

  1. Quests barely give any exp, if any at all.
  2. There is no level cap and 50-51 takes twice as long as 49-50

Sounds like a fun, enjoyable experience.

I don't get why new MMOs can't accept that WoW's use of quests as the primary means of leveling up was a good thing for the genre, and something to accept as a standard.

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#23  Edited By Ten_Pints
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Just pretend the horse isn't clipping through the wall...

My problem with a lot of these MMOs is that there is no tactics (dodge/run), it's just spamming a set of skills until something dies and occasionally stopping to regen your health, which is as boring as ****.

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#24 gamefan67
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Lost my love for mmo's eons ago, but I might give it a try when it drops.

Has it released in the west yet?

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@da_illest101 said:

The real questions are: is it going to be more than a grind fest? is it going to have more than fetch quests? is it going to have more than kill x numbers of enemies? That always been my biggest problem with mmo, they are boring as **** when it comes to gameplay.

You grind and then you grind some more, that's what mmo's are.

Take it or leave it?

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@Gue1 said:

@da_illest101 said:

The real questions are: is it going to be more than a grind fest? is it going to have more than fetch quests? is it going to have more than kill x numbers of enemies? That always been my biggest problem with mmo, they are boring as **** when it comes to gameplay.

You grind and then you grind some more, that's what mmo's are.

Take it or leave it?

Even games like Dragon Age and Borderland become pretty grindy

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#27 DeathLordCrime
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will check this game when it has a us releae

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Sometime 2016 right?

"Moves along"

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#29 Wasdie  Moderator
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Don't get too excited. Not only is this a Korean F2P MMORPG (red flag already), the North American port isn't expected until 2016. I've also heard the development was quite rocky with a lot of features not playing out very well. The game apparently still has a lot of performance issues and the gameplay mechanics aren't all there yet.

It's pretty, but so far that's about it.

I am keeping my eyes on it because it has a lot of really great ideas and it seems the devs are slowly making them work. However it being a F2P Korean MMORPG does worry me as there is a stereotype of those games that's far more often correct.

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#30 Zethrickk382
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@Wasdie:

Do you know much about Bless? I hear it has a better chance of coming out this year.

Also looking forward to Kingdom Under Fire 2 myself. Even has a ps4 version being developed.

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I've been keeping a close eye on this game ever since the first trailer back in 2012. I'm happy to see just how far things have come.

I hope one day I can get my hands on an English-language version!

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@princeofshapeir said:

@Maroxad said:

@da_illest101 said:

The real questions are: is it going to be more than a grind fest? is it going to have more than fetch quests? is it going to have more than kill x numbers of enemies? That always been my biggest problem with mmo, they are boring as **** when it comes to gameplay.

From what I have been hearing

  1. Quests barely give any exp, if any at all.
  2. There is no level cap and 50-51 takes twice as long as 49-50

Sounds like a fun, enjoyable experience.

I don't get why new MMOs can't accept that WoW's use of quests as the primary means of leveling up was a good thing for the genre, and something to accept as a standard.

Asian mmos are designed differently than western.

Terra:

At launch NA thought that game was too grindy even after a couple months in (NA version has less grind than original westernized).

Korea complained about how the game wasn't grindy enough and lack of content.

Different strokes....regardless Korean mmos you need patience and give up on being the best unless $$$

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#33  Edited By GodspellWH
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@notorious1234na said:

@princeofshapeir said:

@Maroxad said:

@da_illest101 said:

The real questions are: is it going to be more than a grind fest? is it going to have more than fetch quests? is it going to have more than kill x numbers of enemies? That always been my biggest problem with mmo, they are boring as **** when it comes to gameplay.

From what I have been hearing

  1. Quests barely give any exp, if any at all.
  2. There is no level cap and 50-51 takes twice as long as 49-50

Sounds like a fun, enjoyable experience.

I don't get why new MMOs can't accept that WoW's use of quests as the primary means of leveling up was a good thing for the genre, and something to accept as a standard.

Asian mmos are designed differently than western.

Terra:

At launch NA thought that game was too grindy even after a couple months in (NA version has less grind than original westernized).

Korea complained about how the game wasn't grindy enough and lack of content.

Different strokes....regardless Korean mmos you need patience and give up on being the best unless $$$

Complaining about lack of content is find but seriously more grinding

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#34 Notorious1234NA
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@godspellwh said:

@notorious1234na said:

@princeofshapeir said:

@Maroxad said:

@da_illest101 said:

The real questions are: is it going to be more than a grind fest? is it going to have more than fetch quests? is it going to have more than kill x numbers of enemies? That always been my biggest problem with mmo, they are boring as **** when it comes to gameplay.

From what I have been hearing

  1. Quests barely give any exp, if any at all.
  2. There is no level cap and 50-51 takes twice as long as 49-50

Sounds like a fun, enjoyable experience.

I don't get why new MMOs can't accept that WoW's use of quests as the primary means of leveling up was a good thing for the genre, and something to accept as a standard.

Asian mmos are designed differently than western.

Terra:

At launch NA thought that game was too grindy even after a couple months in (NA version has less grind than original westernized).

Korea complained about how the game wasn't grindy enough and lack of content.

Different strokes....regardless Korean mmos you need patience and give up on being the best unless $$$

Complaining about lack of content is find but seriously more grinding

Koreans are completionists in a way.

If it took 3 months to get a piece of gear they will happily farm the same raid for the next 3 months, yes just 1 raid for 3 months. After you get gear, you farm the raid for another 3 months because patches are every 6 months NA. Terra and most Korean MMOs are like that been there done that goodbye. Can only handle one of them.

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#35 Krelian-co
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Looks impressive but since it's a korean f2p it will most probably be a boring grind fest.

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#36  Edited By deactivated-594be627b82ba
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@Gue1: definitely leave it. I haven't played an mmo in over 5 years and don't plan on going back unless I hear it's not a grind fest.