Bioshock infinite review changed, now has a 4 instead of 9.

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#1 lightleggy
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Seems Mcshea didnt liked the game

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#2 PhazonBlazer
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What in the actual...I don't even...for the sake of...

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#3  Edited By lightleggy
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I guess it's fair to ask for a new SMG2 and GTA IV review then.

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#4 ManInFlames
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lol

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#5 drinkerofjuice
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That's hilarious.

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#6  Edited By glez13
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GS staff will continue to have a lot of work...

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#7  Edited By tubbyc
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A poor game? Gee that's harsh. It wasn't one of the best I've played, but still pretty good.

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#8  Edited By lightleggy
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@glez13: yeah a lot of crap needs fixing, I already reported this in the feedback forum.

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#9 fueled-system
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Score is harsh but he makes alot of valid points and I am nowhere near McShea's biggest fan..

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#10 PhazonBlazer
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Alot of you may not have liked the game. But a 4/10 this game is not.

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#11 lightleggy
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@fueled-system said:

Score is harsh but he makes alot of valid points and I am nowhere near McShea's biggest fan..

Regardless of how good or bad the game is, GS had already chosen Van0rd's review, and GS has said multiple times that review scores are always final.

If they don't change this back then I really don't see why should they still have the "10/10" reviews from GTA IV and SMG2, or the "its very mysoginistic and politically incorrect" 9/10 GTA V review.

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#12 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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So according to McShea, The Last of Us is twice as good as Bioshock Infinite

#SDC #ThankYouLordKaz #ThankYouSony

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#13 funkymonkey4710
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I am pretty sure it didn't officially change, it is merely a second opinion. Gamespot is going to now do multiple reviews for games to gauge other people's opinions.

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#14 fueled-system
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@lightleggy said:

@fueled-system said:

Score is harsh but he makes alot of valid points and I am nowhere near McShea's biggest fan..

Regardless of how good or bad the game is, GS had already chosen Van0rd's review, and GS has said multiple times that review scores are always final.

If they don't change this back then I really don't see why should they still have the "10/10" reviews from GTA IV and SMG2, or the "its very mysoginistic and politically incorrect" 9/10 GTA V review.

I agree.. there is no reason to change the score maybe they can add some kind of "flashback" or after the credits type review that supplements the official one but yeah it messes up alot

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#15  Edited By SuperNecro
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Retroactively trolling since 2013.

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#16 Animal-Mother
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Damn, Infinite really did suck though.

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#17  Edited By lightleggy
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@funkymonkey4710:

That would entirely kill the point of editor reviews...

So which score is the official score of the game? Imagine the SW arguments...."PS4 has 10 AAA games!"- "No-uh it only has 2, rest of them are not even A games!".

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#18  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@lightleggy said:

@funkymonkey4710:

That would entirely kill the point of editor reviews...

So which score is the official score of the game? Imagine the SW arguments...."PS4 has 10 AAA games!"- "No-uh it only has 2, rest of them are not even A games!".

The first score is the official score, the others are all second or third or fourth opinions.

Alternatively, the 'official' score is the average of all the scores, this makes Bioshock what, a 6.5/10?

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#19  Edited By starjet905
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Wait, what? I thought the story was overrated, just praised by the gamers who never really played games with good stories, but giving it a 4/10? This is all I can say about this score:

Link because new GS doesn't want my images, apparently

I agree with some of the points he makes, but no way can this score be anything but bait, simply put.

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#20  Edited By Harbinger_CR
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Wether you like the game or not, its definetely not a 4/10 game. The pros overweight the cons too much.

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#21  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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The new gamespot was programmed to auto troll...

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#22 lostrib
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why does the average user score say 0.9 at the end of the review but on the Bioshock Infinite page it says 8.7?

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#23 sagejonathan
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Infinite was one of the best games I've ever played. Not that I play a crazy load of games, but it was really good and made the Bioshock series my 2nd favorite series ever.

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#24 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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How is this new review ordeal going to work with flops? First review counts? What if they both release at the same time? Oh my!

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#25  Edited By Giancar
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Hipsters FTL!

The game is one of the best this gen.

And had one of the best storytelling ever put in a videogame.

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#26 LA-Nighthawk
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He nailed it pretty much. Shallow game with shallow gameplay.

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#27 Randolph
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@LA-Nighthawk:

You don't have to use an alt, Tom.

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#29 ChubbyGuy40
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People mad because of how right he is (for once.) It's a 5 at most with the terrible combat and how damn linear it is.

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#30  Edited By LA-Nighthawk
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@Randolph said:

@LA-Nighthawk:

You don't have to use an alt, Tom.

Your joke is a 3/10.

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#31  Edited By haziqonfire
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It didn't change. It's a secondary review. Tom's review actually has the original one by Kevin at the end.

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#32 heytheredarlin
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GameSpot is getting pathetic. If this isn't a clickbait review I don't know what is.

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#33  Edited By StrifeDelivery
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@Giancar:

Pffft.... good luck with that

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#34 NeonNinja
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It's just a second take. When clicking on the reviews page, it stands as a 9 out of 10. McShea is a second opinion below it, but the 9 is the featured review. I imagine for the metagame we will count the first review since that's the one featured front and center.

http://www.gamespot.com/bioshock-infinite/reviews/

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#35 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Maybe people will finally stop praising it around here.

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#36 Randolph
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@SAGE_OF_FIRE said:

Maybe people will finally stop praising it around here.

Anyone who lets the opinions of that man change what they like or don't like needs to find a new hobby.

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#37 remiks00
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@heytheredarlin said:

GameSpot is getting pathetic. If this isn't a clickbait review I don't know what is.

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#38  Edited By nutcrackr
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Well now if they take the average of the two reviews, you are getting close to what the game deserves.

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#39 Jonwh18
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@heytheredarlin said:

GameSpot is getting pathetic. If this isn't a clickbait review I don't know what is.

QFT.

Also screw all the people pretending like this is a bad game now.

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#40 the_bi99man
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Just in case people are still confused, Gamespot has introduced a "second opinion" feature for their reviews of particularly big name games. If you just go directly to the Bioshock Infinite page, the original review is still the official one. Tom's new review is linked at the bottom, as a second opinion. They're going to be doing this alot with big-name, heavily hyped games. You can expect the second opinion reviews to be very much in disagreement with the originals, because otherwise there really wouldn't be much of a point.

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#41 LongZhiZi
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If that was the review for the original Bioshock, I'd say they finally got it right. But I haven't played Infinite, so I can't judge that game.

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#42  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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I don't think Tom realizes what the point of a scoring system is, If Infinite is a 4/10 then the majority of games are a 3/10 and no game will ever be able to score higher than a 7/10.

More importantly what's the point of a lower scoring secondary review or maybe a higher scoring secondary review?... Simple its a cop-out. That way users from both sides of the opinion spectrum will be voiced and feel valued in my opinion its takes away the value of a review site. This is to me sites nail in the coffin. I will stay on it for the forums but aside from that I see no use for this site.

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#43 rjdofu
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I've completely lost my respect for this reviewer. A 4, are you fvcking serious? That's a score for games that fundamentally bad, something like nonfunctional gunplay or full of glitches.

WTF GS? Are you THAT thirsty for hits?

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#44  Edited By cain006
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That's great. I think McShea genuinely believes that to be a correct score and he strikes me as a guy who actually uses all the numbers unlike most reviewers.

But sadly people will try and defend this "magnum opus of humanity"

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#45 lightleggy
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The user score is also 0.9 when I was sure it was over 8 in the old site...

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#46 VendettaRed07
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If someone else on here had posted everything he wrote in the actual review, some people would disagree but not everyone would say he's outright wrong because he's not.

I think Tom just goes to show why this score system is broken. People rarely ever have a problem with what he actually says in his reviews just his scores which is stupid.

The 1up review scale is the best. A, B, C, D, and F. You don't need anything more than that. it doesn't matter if a game is a 4, 3 or a 2, or a 1. All those mean "Game not good, me reviewer no like" Its dumb for them to have to curb scores so that the scale doesn't seem as broken as it is.

Giving Bioshock an F, as in it failed to do the job it set out to do, might not be such a horrible message. But we have this really sensitive view on these numbers its ridiculous. Its scared reviewers into not being able to use scales correctly.

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#47 Heil68
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I love Tom.

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#48  Edited By chessmaster1989
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ahahahaahahahahaahahahahaha

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lmao thats hilarious