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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
Sounds like someone didn't listen to any of the voxophones.
What weren't you clear on? Maybe take a look at this and it will help you wrap your brain around the games ideas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCQx9U6awFw
Vaasman
Yeah got 77 in my 1st playthrough.Listend to all of them
What I'm not clear on ? Ok heres a few.
Why would killing one of Booker kill all of them (very ending).
Why were they only like 5 Elizabeths if there are millions of them.
Why all the gateways are lighthouses.
Why did booker torchered hes daughter if he loved her so much.
What was the purpose of the syphon.
Why did the gunsmith die in the 3th world if he helped the VOX.
Why did people form demetrios shared thoughts wihtout really traveling between them (the nose bleeding).
What was the deal with the ghost of the 1st lady.
Why did elizabeth said she could wish thigs to happen but then it turns out that the things are just there in million worlds.
Why would she have controll over all dimensions and gates if she has parts in only two dimensions.
Why would haveing parts in differnt dimations give you power.Does it work on blood, booker blead all over those worlds.
How can her normal human brain comprehend billions of dimensions.
Why did booker went compleatley insane and wanted to invade NW. Because he took a baptism at some point ?That stupid a ***.
I can keep going
I'll go down the line.-They aren't killing Booker, they are killing Comstock. You think of them too literally as the same person. They shifted to the point in time where Booker was reborn as Comstock, and killed him there before the event ever happened. That singular moment was what lead to the existence of Comstock and Columbia, and by drowning him, Comstock ceases to exist in any universe.
-That's a stupid question honestly. Would you prefer they filled the screen with a million billion Elizabeths, all slightly different? Actually maybe that would have been cool, to see a swarm of Elizabeths smother him like a zombie hoard.
-The game says there are always constants between the universes. There is always one lighthouse, one man, and one city. I really don't see how it's a plot hole even if that weren't mentioned. Maybe they just are lighthouses, does it really matter in the scheme of things? If the door was a block of cheese then yea I might be confused. The lighthouse was an iconic starting point for both main Bioshock games, so it seems like a reasonable choice for a universal door.
-Comstock tortured his daughter, not Booker. They are the same person, yes, but the split in the line causes them to develop wildly different personalities. After becoming born again as Comstock, he basically becomes a whackjob, as they clearly demonstrate. Booker learned to live with his sins instead of turning himself into a nutty phophetsor. Comstock only sees her as fulfilling his vision, and he has no real regard for what that takes.
-It suppresses and uses Elizabeths powers. Seriously that one was obvious, it was in the main dialogue a lot near the end.
-Because the Vox are douches? Either that or Comstock's forces took him out only after the weapons were created, I can't quite remember. Does this really matter in any way to the overarching plot? He's such a minor character, his only real purpose is to show how people change between universes after manipulation. If you want to consider it a contrivance then sure, but it's hardly a plothole.
-The mind fills itself with memories where none exist. Replay the opening. When Booker sees the posters of himself as a hero, he remembers being that hero because thats what happened in that new universe and he's coping with the new reality. When Elizabeth asks about her finger, he is hearing about what originally happened in his universe, and it conflicts with the story his mind created. It just seems like something to help normal minds cope with the jumps in reality. When the characters die, they go insane while their minds catch up to the reality where they weren't dead.
-They said in the game that Elizabeth created her, unintentionally because of the mini-siphon, and her anger at her own mother during the creation was what made her feral and incorporeal.
- She just has less strength her abilities. I thought it was pretty obvious she was gaining more and more control over it by the end when she turns the entire lab into a cornfield with a roaring tornado, and she moves Booker across 60 something years of time. In the beginning she struggles to make a small portal to Paris.
-The accident afflicted her the same as the Luteces'. Inappropriate exposure to the devices allowed them to exist in any time and space the same way she does at the end. It doesn't really have to do with her being in 2 universes at once, it has to do with her being exposed to the machinery.
-Your English is abysmal. I don't even know what you're saying here. No wonder you're failing to grasp anything.
- I don't know jack about how eyes work, does that mean I can't see or blink? You don't have to fully comprehend a latent ability to harness it. Just because she can move between universes freely at the end, doesn't mean she's omnipotent and must process the information of infinite universes and possibilities all at once.
Also, she's smart as hell. Did you not see the scene where she knows the coordinates to New York and knows Booker is taking her to the wrong place, even though she's never been outside her room and has no reason to know that kind of information?
-Being baptized lead him down a completely different path in life, he meets different people and develops certain unhealthy ideaologies that he does not when he isn't baptized. The whole idea of the game is that a small change can make a huge difference. It wasn't the baptism itself necessarily.
I recommend you look up the Schrodinger's cat thought experiment. To just give the gist of it, a cat sits in a box, and there is a 50/50 chance that it will be poisoned. Quantum physics says that the cat is both alive and dead until the box is open and you find out. That's basically what's going on.
Your spelling and grammar are so bad that it makes me think it all just went right over your head. You're making mountains out of molehills and looking for problems where there aren't any. You took what abiguity was there and didn't put the slightest bit of thought into it.
There are problems with the plot, yes, but they come more from the paradoxes creating by manipulations of the timelines than anything. The grandfather paradox is presented in particular, when Elizabeth kills the baptized Booker. If Comstock never exists, then none of the events would have happened, and therefore Elizabeth wouldn't have gone back and stopped the baptism because she wasn't capable, which means he would exist, and so on and so forth.
My english is bad becuase I'm really tired after beating the game and its not my native but whatever.
Btw thanks for your wall of speculation and bullsh*t.
lets go over it again.
1. Nope, not how it works.There is no "singular" moments in a multiverse theory. Writers made it up and pulled it out of their a*s.Its a plot hole.Do your f*cking homework.
2. So yeah, plothole.
3. Whriters pulled it out of theirs ass for the purpose of thier story.
4. Really now?One baptism can turn people in to H*tler ?
5./6. Ok fine.
7. Again, she pulled just him and her through the portal. Why would other people be getting new memories.They never moved.
8.Yes they did say that .Since when does Elizapeth has the power to create "things" out of thin air? Wasn't it just rifts and interdimensional travel.Is she just Dr Manhattan now? Not really explained how it works at all. Another plothole.
9. Go back to 8.
10. It didn't effect them in the same way. One was just a portal "cut" and the other was a sabotage of the entire device.Also people keep saying its the body parts in different worlds so you answered nothing really.
11. Then why does she know what to exactly do to "stop booker" without anyone telling her ? After the syphon went down she got information from somewhere and a lot of it. From where anyway?
12. She said she had a lot of time to read wen she was locked up.. dones't mean shes smart. Anyone can memorize.
13. Ok it did change hes life but I still fail too see how it made him so f*cking awful.Butterfly effect or not they explained nothing.
14. Mock my english all you want but you seem to not have the slightest idea how the multiverse theory works and you just listen to the game... which is completely full of plotholes.
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