Biggest flop in system wars history?

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#1 Carmilla31
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So which is it?
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#2 nivet14
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From that list Twilight Princess.
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#3 themagicbum9720
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2 threads already? but lair.
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Lair
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#5 Carmilla31
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Doh! Come to think of it i shouldve added MGS3 as a choice too. :|
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#6 LegendofNerd
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Lair. Without a doubt.
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#7 whoisryanmack
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Biggest as in...the biggest deal, or the biggest difference between hyped score and actual score?
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#8 MGS9150
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Twilight princess, because it was hyped AAAA and was said to be better than OOT.
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#9 Solid_Link22
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Twilight Princess. Sheep were so sure this game was going to score AAA-AAAA because it is Zelda.
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#10 TargetDog
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You forgot Shenmue and the biggest of them all... KILLZONE
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Twilight princess, because it was hyped AAAA and was said to be better than OOT.MGS9150

hyped AAAA?  Link?
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#12 Nike_Air
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Zelda. People are going to vote Lair because it just happened and the score is really low but Zelda had the most impact of all time.

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Twilight princess, because it was hyped AAAA and was said to be better than OOT.MGS9150

AAA was the offical hype i believe.

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Twilight princess, because it was hyped AAAA and was said to be better than OOT.MGS9150

Hahaha, This is a classic case of lair-floppage denial.

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#15 Carmilla31
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Lair. Without a doubt.LegendofNerd
MGS3 went from a AAA franchise, last game was a 9.6, to a AA. Blue Dragon was made from the creator of Final Fantasy and thought as a 'Square killer.' Metroid 3 went from a AAA franchise to AA like MGS3. Zelda was a AAA-AAAA franchise and bombed at a AA. I actually think Lair is the least flop of all of those considering Factor 5 never made a sure fire hit in the past.
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#16 D_Znuhtz
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Lair by a long shot.

And I'm a "cow". Anyway, this crap can be kept to the official Lair review thread, since this is obviously meant to be a thread about Lair.

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[QUOTE="MGS9150"]Twilight princess, because it was hyped AAAA and was said to be better than OOT.mmogoon

Hahaha, This is a classic case of lair-floppage denial.

I dont care if lair flopped, it doesnt affect me at all. I wouldnt have bought it anyways.

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Other.

Super Mario Sunshine imo.

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#19 Carmilla31
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You forgot Shenmue and the biggest of them all... KILLZONETargetDog
Doh! Another good choice. But Killzone falls into the same category as Lair as a game that was hyped well for no reason since the developers have never made a blockbuster before.
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#20 JPOBS
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this list is horrible.

no fable, no killzone, no doom 3, no mario sunshine. Geez, you act like sw was just created in 2006...

saeriously, this list is a pos.

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#21 johnusabeis
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lair for sure
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#22 SmashBrosLegend
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The one and only answer is Killzone.
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#23 CaseyWegner
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pn03...it's not a question of opinion. it's a question of mathematical calculationometry.
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#24 ToScA-
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I'd replace Blue Dragon with Killzone. Both flopped, but Killzone was hyped quite a lot more.
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#25 Tamarind_Face
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Twilight princess, hyped AAAA.

2nd place metroid prime 3... Hyped Halo killer by sheep and will score higher than Bioshock.

3rd I think its killzone, maybe because of the media hype.

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#26 goodlay
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Zelda. People are going to vote Lair because it just happened and the score is really low but Zelda had the most impact of all time.

Nike_Air

The official hype was AA and some fanboys were even saying AAA and a GOTY contender, its SW, what can you expect.

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#27 goodlay
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Twilight princess, hyped AAAA.

2nd place metroid prime 3... Hyped Halo killer by sheep and will score higher than Bioshock.

3rd I think its killzone, maybe because of the media hype.

Tamarind_Face

TP was hyped AAA, and please show me where all the sheep were saying MP3 would kill Halo, wait, they didn't.

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#28 white_sox
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this list is horrible.

no fable, no killzone, no doom 3, no mario sunshine. Geez, you act like sw was just created in 2006...

saeriously, this list is a pos.

JPOBS
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#29 legol1
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and remember how the factor5 guy insist lair is only possible on ps3 hahahaha nothing like a ps3 to make a good flopLOL
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Lair is the biggest flop. It was hyped AA, and missed its mark by 3.5! Coming down to 4.5 as a score! No game did as bad as this! TP hyped AAA, got AA, .2 off. Metroid hyped AAA, got AA .5. That is no where near Lair
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#31 6matt6
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zelda was not hyped AAAA.
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#32 chansaet
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horrible list. Alot of those games are actually really good. And like almost all of those games are less than 1 year old. I bet your new to gaming. But biggest would be Mario sunshine
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#33 TargetDog
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this list is horrible.

no fable, no killzone, no doom 3, no mario sunshine. Geez, you act like sw was just created in 2006...

saeriously, this list is a pos.

JPOBS
If I chose 5 games, they would be: Shenmue Twilight Princess Killzone Daikatana Fable
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#34 chansaet
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pn03...it's not a question of opinion. it's a question of mathematical calculationometry.CaseyWegner
I remember that game. I was so hyped uo for it until the game came out. horrible.
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#35 kage_53
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Impact-Twilight Princess Score- Daikatana or Devil May Cry 2.
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#36 Tamarind_Face
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Lair is the biggest flop. It was hyped AA, and missed its mark by 3.5! Coming down to 4.5 as a score! No game did as bad as this! TP hyped AAA, got AA, .2 off. Metroid hyped AAA, got AA .5. That is no where near Lairlettuceman44
Errr... No. TP's flop is the biggest flop in SW and even in the Internets. The number 8.8 is like a legend right now. We all know these other games flop but we tend to forget what did they score.

But when we mention the number 8.8, its like mentioning 9/11. I think the number 8.8 is bigger than 9/11. Its really amazing.

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[QUOTE="LegendofNerd"]Lair. Without a doubt.Carmilla31
MGS3 went from a AAA franchise, last game was a 9.6, to a AA. Blue Dragon was made from the creator of Final Fantasy and thought as a 'Square killer.' Metroid 3 went from a AAA franchise to AA like MGS3. Zelda was a AAA-AAAA franchise and bombed at a AA. I actually think Lair is the least flop of all of those considering Factor 5 never made a sure fire hit in the past.

Rogue Squadron II says otherwise. Besides, MGS, Metroid, and Zelda still scored AA which are, correct me if I'm wrong here, GREAT games. Even Blue Dragon, as bad as it flopped, was nowhere near the epic floppage level of Lair.

4.5 :? That's all I gotta say.

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#38 metalsonicgc2k4
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Blue Dragon, MP 3? You kidding me?

With flops like Mario Sunshine, Doom 3, Fable, Killzone, GTA Liberty City Stories really defining what's an SW flop, those games are bad choices for your list.

It's tough though, all those flops I listed were really big, but Twilight Princess was so unexpected and crippling. Lair is a big flop, but it wasn't supposed to be a killer app.

Out of your list, I'd vote Twilight Princess. Though I think Mario Sunshine is the biggest flop in recent memory.

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How is it not Lair? Lair got a 4.5. You don't really compete with that. It's a 4.5. The types of games that get scores like that are ones that are never hyped and everybody knows they'll be horrible, and they're released and nobody buys them and that's it. Lair on the other hand received MASSIVE hype and was pegged as AAA GOTY by plenty. It also received a lot of hype from other publications. A game with that kinda hype getting a 4.5 from Gamespot? 4.9 from IGN? That's what makes this such a big deal.

Lair is the biggest video game flop probably ever based on its hype, not just in SW. I can't think of a single other game from any generation that received the hype Lair did and came crashing down as hard when all was said and done. Daikatana's close, but even then a lot of people had reservations about it since John Romero is a douchebag.

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#40 RurouniSaiyajin
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[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]

Twilight princess, hyped AAAA.

2nd place metroid prime 3... Hyped Halo killer by sheep and will score higher than Bioshock.

3rd I think its killzone, maybe because of the media hype.

goodlay

TP was hyped AAA, and please show me where all the sheep were saying MP3 would kill Halo, wait, they didn't.

There was a time they did. I remember that. As soon as that onepreview said the controls were the most revolutionary in FPS history since Halo, fanboysran withit. Luckily, they forgot all about that soon after.

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#41 Ragashahs
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Zelda TP becuase this game was being hyped to a near perfect,yeah i know offically AAA but alot of people said it would BETTER the OoT and it under scored to AA. i can see lair too but the reason i say TP is becuase once lair started having some negitive stuff about it lairs hype was stopped in an instance i haven't heard i cow in the past month hype lair as even being a good game anymore
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#42 Carmilla31
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How is Daikatana not getting any votes? It was made by a developer who made Doom and Quake and had ads that said that the game was going to make you its b**ch... AND it scored a 4.6!
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It's obvious none of you were around when Daikatana came out. It's by far the biggest flop in history. It was hyped as a divine revolution in gaming godness for its like 5 year development.

...and it was a mammoth piece of crap. Scored a 4.6 I think.

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#44 The_AI
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Lair.

Cows: "OMG LAIR IS TEH AMAZING. IT WILL MAKE HALO LOOK LIKE CRAP"

4.5 doesn't make Halo look like crap...

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It's obvious none of you were around when Daikatana came out. It's by far the biggest flop in history. It was hyped as a divine revolution in gaming godness for its like 5 year development.

...and it was a mammoth piece of crap. Scored a 4.6 I think.

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crap that slipped my mind.

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#46 Carmilla31
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It's obvious none of you were around when Daikatana came out. It's by far the biggest flop in history. It was hyped as a divine revolution in gaming godness for its like 5 year development.

...and it was a mammoth piece of crap. Scored a 4.6 I think.

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Thank you very much. 8)
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How is it not Lair? Lair got a 4.5. You don't really compete with that. It's a 4.5. The types of games that get scores like that are ones that are never hyped and everybody knows they'll be horrible, and they're released and nobody buys them and that's it. Lair on the other hand received MASSIVE hype and was pegged as AAA GOTY by plenty. It also received a lot of hype from other publications. A game with that kinda hype getting a 4.5 from Gamespot? 4.9 from IGN? That's what makes this such a big deal.

Lair is the biggest video game flop probably ever based on its hype, not just in SW. I can't think of a single other game from any generation that received the hype Lair did and came crashing down as hard when all was said and done. Daikatana's close, but even then a lot of people had reservations about it since John Romero is a douchebag.

Zeliard9

Lair was hyped AA. And TP is still the biggest flop in gaming history, Zelda is the biggest franchise. Arguably(sp?) bigger than Halo... its floppage is legendary. 8.8 is like the new 9/11. After 2 to 3 months we'll forget about lair but will still remember Zelda's floppage.

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#48 Hippostrike
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[QUOTE="LegendofNerd"]Lair. Without a doubt.Carmilla31
MGS3 went from a AAA franchise, last game was a 9.6, to a AA. Blue Dragon was made from the creator of Final Fantasy and thought as a 'Square killer.' Metroid 3 went from a AAA franchise to AA like MGS3. Zelda was a AAA-AAAA franchise and bombed at a AA. I actually think Lair is the least flop of all of those considering Factor 5 never made a sure fire hit in the past.

Fail. Rogue Squadron was developed by Factor 5.

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#49 blizzvalve
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Lair. Wasn't this game hyped AA? and it got a 4.5.
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#50 NerdMan
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[QUOTE="NerdMan"]

It's obvious none of you were around when Daikatana came out. It's by far the biggest flop in history. It was hyped as a divine revolution in gaming godness for its like 5 year development.

...and it was a mammoth piece of crap. Scored a 4.6 I think.

Carmilla31

Thank you very much. 8)

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