@mjorh said:
@jg4xchamp said:
Grand Theft Auto 4. Anything higher than a 4 out of 10 for that game is fucking absurd. It's core is so fucking rubbish.
Are you not a fan of the GTA series in general, or you only don't like this one?
On balance? not really, the core mechanics have always been poor in Rockstar games, with the exception of GTAV and Max Payne 3 (and they still get in the way of Max Payne 3). The difference is I at least get the love for 3, vice city, and san andreas or even 5. 3 is a landmark title, and the sequels were very much sandbox games, the things them that made them fun was all the different ways you could dick around in that game, and it makes sense how that was celebrated so much in the early 2000s, it was pure fun factor there. San Andreas being a whole state and Vice City tapping into 80s nostalgia also made sense to me.
5 actually fixes the shooting engine, and a good chunk of the missions are varied and well done. The story is rubbish and there is way too much filler in GTA5, but okay yeah there is something more impressive about that game.
But 4? They dialed shit back, took the story way more seriously for a plot line that utterly sucks, doesn't earn its ending, and proceeds to do the rockstar thing where the plot doesn't move a fucking centimeter in the middle section of the game. Because it's mechanically regressed in terms of options from its predecessors, it's now fundamentally nothing more than a third person cover shooter, you happen to an open world, and it fucking blows cock at it. It's clunky, it's not fluid, the shooting itself is auto combat, with the enemy designs to make it at least somewhat appealing (which is what makes the boss fights in a Metroid Prime or Zelda, or Dark Souls enjoyable, even if the combat is lock on based), and realistically it's only lock-on because Rockstar has some abysmal shooting engines because when you turn that shit off it controls like absolute ass.
And I'm usually one to look at the controls of a game and think "okay, so why does this work this way, what's the intended effect"....except with GTA 4 there isn't one other than it's just poorly. So many boring missions, so many routine missions, throw in the added bonus that controlling choppers and how weirdly specific they wanted you to be was never fun, how Rockstar's brand of "american dream is bullshit" satire isn't that good, doesn't help matters either. And that's without ever using the Roman blows up your phone too much complaint.
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