BF4 to run in 900p for the PS4, and 720p for X1.

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#1 Posted by ermacness (7043 posts) -

Here's the link:

LINKY!!!!!!!

The web page have the date for today, so the info isn't old, and while it was floating around here by fanboys, there was no actual source backing up their claims back then.

Thoughts?

#2 Posted by Blabadon (26139 posts) -

If you find a difference between 900p and 720p on a big screen, you're ridiculous.

#3 Posted by Blabadon (26139 posts) -

They have a respond for you in the article lol:

"For example, Battlefield 4 will run at 900p resolution on the PS4, but only in 720p on theXbox One. Bach says that no matter what, people will compared the different versions and “judge us based on that, rather than comparing us to other games on the platform”."

#4 Posted by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

Seems weird actually. PS4 has a 50% GPGPU FLOPS advantage over XB1. Yes?

1600 x 900 = 1440K pixels

1280 x 720 = 921.6K pixels

1440K / 921.6K = 1.5625 ... or a 56.25% 'pixels rendered' advantage.

So, in this particular instance, assuming the same frame rate, PS4's pixel advantage is disproportionately higher than the flop advantage, it's doing better than I'd ever suspect.

There could be more going on, resolution isn't everything, but still ... how curious.

Anyway, my girlfriend wants this so it's pre-ordered on Origin. I've seen the BF4 Beta running on PC, and on 360 and hahahaha, that 360 version. Hilarious.

#5 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8718 posts) -

@psymon100:

Lol, I recently started playing BF3 on PC nearly maxed out, and it's night and day compared to the 360 and PS3 versions. I can't imagine the difference with BF4

#6 Posted by ermacness (7043 posts) -

@Blabadon said:

They have a respond for you in the article lol:

"For example, Battlefield 4 will run at 900p resolution on the PS4, but only in 720p on theXbox One. Bach says that no matter what, people will compared the different versions and “judge us based on that, rather than comparing us to other games on the platform”."

Umm, all I did was post the message. I never put "PS4 > X1 x 1000" because of this. Get mad at the message, not the messenger.

#7 Edited by psymon100 (6138 posts) -

@psymon100:

Lol, I recently started playing BF3 on PC nearly maxed out, and it's night and day compared to the 360 and PS3 versions. I can't imagine the difference with BF4

It's kind of like, BF3 is nice and shiny on PC, BF4 is a little bit shinier.

BF3 looks ... passable on 360. BF4 beta ... I'm pretty sure it looks worse :(

#8 Posted by nishanth12 (526 posts) -

wow I thought the resolution is same on both consoles. Very unfortunate that xbone is lacking behind even in initial stages. Also why the hell is ps4 doing 900p? I mean a Radeon 7870 card easily does Battlefield 4 beta on 1080p with smooth framerate. This makes no sense.

#9 Edited by Netherscourge (16328 posts) -

900p upscaled to 1080p looks a HELL of a lot better than 720p upscaled to 1080p.

#10 Edited by killzowned24 (7321 posts) -

lol ! 720p on just xbone with BF4 would be like an almost insta kill for the system :)

#12 Edited by Gue1 (9741 posts) -

@Blabadon said:

If you find a difference between 900p and 720p on a big screen, you're ridiculous.

but what if it is 1920x900p vs 1280x720p? That's a pretty huge difference in horizontal resolution.

@ermacness your link doesn't provide any quotes about the resolutions. This is just the author pulling stuff out of his ass.

#13 Posted by Eddie-Vedder (7790 posts) -

Wow that really sad for the Xbone

#14 Edited by Netherscourge (16328 posts) -

@Blabadon said:

If you find a difference between 900p and 720p on a big screen, you're ridiculous.

You're forgetting it'll be upscaled to 1080p; 720p upscaled looks a lot blurrier than 900p upscaled.

#15 Posted by hoosier7 (3784 posts) -

Seems weird actually. PS4 has a 50% GPGPU FLOPS advantage over XB1. Yes?

1600 x 900 = 1440K pixels

1280 x 720 = 921.6K pixels

1440K / 921.6K = 1.5625 ... or a 56.25% 'pixels rendered' advantage.

So, in this particular instance, assuming the same frame rate, PS4's pixel advantage is disproportionately higher than the flop advantage, it's doing better than I'd ever suspect.

There could be more going on, resolution isn't everything, but still ... how curious.

Anyway, my girlfriend wants this so it's pre-ordered on Origin. I've seen the BF4 Beta running on PC, and on 360 and hahahaha, that 360 version. Hilarious.

Possibly due to the rumoured (and suggested by devs) advantage the PS4 has in drivers. There was definitely one dev/leaker who claimed the PS4's drivers were in a more mature state iirc. Who knows whether this gap will be shortened or widened, personally i'm predicting a catch up initially as the Xbox drivers match the PS4 and then a widening as the PS4's stronger hardware and GPU compute is made the most of.

What's most surprising from this is not the difference in hardware but the fact that it's been confirmed before the release of one of the graphically stronger multiplat titles and that MS hasn't managed to convince the devs to gimp the PS4 version. At least politics isn't getting in the way as was suggested before.

Guess this is why we didn't see much in the way of gameplay of the Xbox versions of multiplats.

#16 Edited by killzowned24 (7321 posts) -

@hoosier7 said:

@psymon100 said:

Seems weird actually. PS4 has a 50% GPGPU FLOPS advantage over XB1. Yes?

1600 x 900 = 1440K pixels

1280 x 720 = 921.6K pixels

1440K / 921.6K = 1.5625 ... or a 56.25% 'pixels rendered' advantage.

So, in this particular instance, assuming the same frame rate, PS4's pixel advantage is disproportionately higher than the flop advantage, it's doing better than I'd ever suspect.

There could be more going on, resolution isn't everything, but still ... how curious.

Anyway, my girlfriend wants this so it's pre-ordered on Origin. I've seen the BF4 Beta running on PC, and on 360 and hahahaha, that 360 version. Hilarious.

Possibly due to the rumoured (and suggested by devs) advantage the PS4 has in drivers. There was definitely one dev/leaker who claimed the PS4's drivers were in a more mature state iirc. Who knows whether this gap will be shortened or widened, personally i'm predicting a catch up initially as the Xbox drivers match the PS4 and then a widening as the PS4's stronger hardware and GPU compute is made the most of.

What's most surprising from this is not the difference in hardware but the fact that it's been confirmed before the release of one of the graphically stronger multiplat titles and that MS hasn't managed to convince the devs to gimp the PS4 version. At least politics isn't getting in the way as was suggested before.

Guess this is why we didn't see much in the way of gameplay of the Xbox versions of multiplats.

Have you seen the PS360 beta?

360 runs at a lower resolution,has worse textures,AA,shadows,and more !! lol

:D

#17 Posted by lostrib (35698 posts) -

wow I thought the resolution is same on both consoles. Very unfortunate that xbone is lacking behind even in initial stages. Also why the hell is ps4 doing 900p? I mean a Radeon 7870 card easily does Battlefield 4 beta on 1080p with smooth framerate. This makes no sense.

They want to hit 60fps most of the time

#18 Edited by Netherscourge (16328 posts) -

Hold up - was DICE actually quoted confirming those resolutions? Or just the website editor?

The original OXM article doesn't have any resolutions mentioned in it (unless MS told them to omit it lol)

We should wait for some confirmation on those resolutions from DICE. Just to be fair to lemmings. Don't want to see a mass exodus just based on RUMORS after all, right Lemmings? RIght?

#19 Edited by Thunder7151 (329 posts) -
#20 Edited by kingoflife9 (1987 posts) -

Hmm, so the PS4 is already showing a multiplat advantage....might have to cancel my pre order of the X1

#21 Edited by Netherscourge (16328 posts) -
#22 Posted by killzowned24 (7321 posts) -
#23 Posted by Basinboy (11084 posts) -

If you're playing BF4 on anything but PC, you dun messed up

#24 Edited by lostrib (35698 posts) -

Hmm, so the PS4 is already showing a multiplat advantage....might have to cancel my pre order of the X1

multiplats are usually best on PC anyways

#25 Posted by waltefmoney (18030 posts) -

This is not confirmed and there is no source in that link.

#26 Posted by danten81 (129 posts) -

It's ok, 900p looks like 1920x1080 with FXAA.

#27 Posted by lostrib (35698 posts) -

@danten81 said:

It's ok, 900p looks like 1920x1080 with FXAA.

In other words, blurry

#28 Posted by Blabadon (26139 posts) -

@Blabadon said:

They have a respond for you in the article lol:

"For example, Battlefield 4 will run at 900p resolution on the PS4, but only in 720p on theXbox One. Bach says that no matter what, people will compared the different versions and “judge us based on that, rather than comparing us to other games on the platform”."

Umm, all I did was post the message. I never put "PS4 > X1 x 1000" because of this. Get mad at the message, not the messenger.

Yes, because the messenger hasn't had over 6,800 posts here.

#29 Posted by danten81 (129 posts) -

@lostrib: At least they get the 60 frames. Beggars can't be choosers.

#30 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

Damn poor Xboners, already dealing with inferior multiplats.

#31 Edited by ermacness (7043 posts) -

@Blabadon said:

@ermacness said:

@Blabadon said:

They have a respond for you in the article lol:

"For example, Battlefield 4 will run at 900p resolution on the PS4, but only in 720p on theXbox One. Bach says that no matter what, people will compared the different versions and “judge us based on that, rather than comparing us to other games on the platform”."

Umm, all I did was post the message. I never put "PS4 > X1 x 1000" because of this. Get mad at the message, not the messenger.

Yes, because the messenger hasn't had over 6,800 posts here.

and your point is?

#32 Posted by casharmy (6822 posts) -

But lemming said all multiplats would be the same?

Lems also said it would take YEARS before any differences would show between xbox 1 and PS4?

So many lems echoed those two statements, even recently. lol, I also remember lemmings talking about the possibility of having a superior version of BF4 on x1.

It's there fault for believing in some secret sauce when hard facts and developers have testified saying the same thing the whole while.

#33 Edited by psymon100 (6138 posts) -
#34 Posted by neversummer75 (980 posts) -

It does not say anywhere in the original article(click on the OXM link) That the PS4 is running the game at 900p and that the x1 is running it at 720p. It amazes me how some of these fools try in vain to diminish the x1.

#35 Edited by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@nishanth12 said:

wow I thought the resolution is same on both consoles. Very unfortunate that xbone is lacking behind even in initial stages. Also why the hell is ps4 doing 900p? I mean a Radeon 7870 card easily does Battlefield 4 beta on 1080p with smooth framerate. This makes no sense.

PS4 doesn't have 7870 GE i.e. 2.56 TFLOPS vs 1.84 TFLOPS.

The target frame rate is 60 fps.

#36 Edited by Krelian-co (10647 posts) -

but but but teh free cloudzzzz

#37 Posted by SonySoldier-_- (732 posts) -

@Blabadon said:

If you find a difference between 900p and 720p on a big screen, you're ridiculous.

if you're playing a game like BF on a big screen tv you're going to be at a disadvantage.

#38 Edited by btk2k2 (389 posts) -

@ronvalencia said:

@nishanth12 said:

wow I thought the resolution is same on both consoles. Very unfortunate that xbone is lacking behind even in initial stages. Also why the hell is ps4 doing 900p? I mean a Radeon 7870 card easily does Battlefield 4 beta on 1080p with smooth framerate. This makes no sense.

PS4 doesn't have 7870 GE i.e. 2.56 TFLOPS vs 1.84 TFLOPS.

The target frame rate is 60 fps.

That is at Ultra settings, it is quite easy to turn it down to Medium/High to get 60 FPS minimum frame rates and I bet that would look better @1080p rather than High/Ultra @900p.

Edit: That was also done on Windows 7 which has shown much worse performance than Windows 8 so there is also the possibility that it is totally unoptimised and not a true reflection of the expected performance.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battlefield-4-PC-238749/Specials/Battlefield-4-CPU-Test-Windows-8-1091767/

#39 Posted by Sweenix (5399 posts) -

Xbone strikes again

#40 Posted by ronvalencia (15110 posts) -

@btk2k2 said:

@ronvalencia said:

@nishanth12 said:

wow I thought the resolution is same on both consoles. Very unfortunate that xbone is lacking behind even in initial stages. Also why the hell is ps4 doing 900p? I mean a Radeon 7870 card easily does Battlefield 4 beta on 1080p with smooth framerate. This makes no sense.

PS4 doesn't have 7870 GE i.e. 2.56 TFLOPS vs 1.84 TFLOPS.

The target frame rate is 60 fps.

That is at Ultra settings, it is quite easy to turn it down to Medium/High to get 60 FPS minimum frame rates and I bet that would look better @1080p rather than High/Ultra @900p.

A step down from Ultra is High settings and it's has some frame rate boost.

#41 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

Thoughts?

Consolites care way too much about graphics.

#42 Edited by campzor (34932 posts) -

so its like the 360 version then? lol

#43 Edited by KillzoneSnake (1712 posts) -

BF4 devs are noobs. How does the way better looking Shadow Fall run at full 1080/60. PS4 has the power to run BF4 at 1080 since BF gfx are no good.

#44 Posted by kraken2109 (13027 posts) -

Both are way too low res for 2013.

#45 Edited by Caseytappy (2132 posts) -

Awesome , right of the bat it's already bye bye to 1080 P for both .

It's like last gen already , peasants fighting for second place scraps .

Reaction GIF: facepalm, laugh, Ricky Gervais

#46 Posted by nutcrackr (12521 posts) -

I don't think this is confirmed final resolution yet.

#47 Edited by PAL360 (26822 posts) -

@Caseytappy said:

Awesome , right of the bat it's already bye bye to 1080 P for both .

It's like last gen already , peasants fighting for second place scraps .

Many PS4 and X1 games are confirmed to be 1080p/60fps. Assassin's Creed 4, Resogun, Fifa 14, Forza 5, CoD Ghosts, Shadow Fall mp, FFIV, Flower, Transistor, just to name a few.

I would say 720p or 900p/60fps for a game like Battlefield 4 is pretty acceptable, especially considering it's a launch game.

#48 Posted by freedomfreak (39964 posts) -

And none of them run at 1080P :(

#49 Edited by Kinthalis (5310 posts) -

Lol.

"next gen" consoles.

#50 Posted by KungfuKitten (20963 posts) -

Is this 2005?!