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#1  Edited By killzowned24
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Killzone does quite well against PC maxed out.

to be clear,the BF4 screen is 2560x1440 direct feed and KZ is a compressed capture from video.

http://i.imgur.com/ooepJyg.png

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And BF4 is ten times the game that Killzone is, and has to cater for last gen shitbox consoles.

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#3  Edited By Douevenlift_bro
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@AMD655 said:

And BF4 is ten times the game that Killzone is, and has to cater for last gen shitbox consoles.

Relax.

No need for insecure hyperbole. BF is an excellent game and KZ is looking amazing

On topic: They both look great..

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#4  Edited By killzowned24
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@AMD655 said:

And BF4 is ten times the game that Killzone is, and has to cater for last gen shitbox consoles.

PC is the lead platform and KZ is a launch game lol.

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#5 R3FURBISHED
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Good on Dice, matching graphics with a game developed for a specific hardware spec with a game developed for six different systems.

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#6  Edited By clyde46
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For one, LOL playing story mode in BF4.

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#7 -Unreal-
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Models aren't exactly a demanding asset of modern hardware. You can have good looking models on fairly crap hardware.

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#8  Edited By deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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@killzowned24 said:

@AMD655 said:

And BF4 is ten times the game that Killzone is, and has to cater for last gen shitbox consoles.

PC is the lead platform and KZ is a launch game lol.

It makes little difference, BF3 PC was stopped half way through and they set console as lead platform, the PC version still donkey punches the console versions.... so?

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#9  Edited By MajesticShea
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Killzone looks better tbh.

also can someone take these images and make a thread they are ps3 vs ps4 ac4 screens.

[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/t8lug5.png[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/52kjmx.png[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/os7m69.png[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/fabuqh.png[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/240yii8.png[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/20aq5af.png[/IMG]

here are the links

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#10  Edited By killzowned24
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Here's another shot at 5120x2880 down to 1080p.

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@clyde46 said:

For one, LOL playing story mode in BF4.

I will, you get a few unique weapons and dogtags for doing so.

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#12  Edited By MajesticShea
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@R3FURBISHED said:

Good on Dice, matching graphics with a game developed for a specific hardware spec with a game developed for six different systems.

Good for Sony being able to match a high end PC's graphic capability which, is in theory 3-4x stronger than the PS4........ with a launch game

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#13  Edited By deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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Oh and just so you know..... PC version uses FXAA which blurrs the screen. so these shots are not a real representation of the actual PC models, let someone do shots without FXAA on.

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#14  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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I think the models are going to be pretty close in terms of polygon count. I think a bigger deciding factor is the game engine around them, how they are lit and shaded. To be honest I think BF4 looks a bit better, but Killzone's look fantastic.

Both are good looking games but I think BF4 is the better looking of the two.

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#15 Lumpy311
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Lmao.

Now capture 64 players, shit blowing up all around, lots of shooting, a building falling and more stuff.

All at 60 fps.

Can't do that on the shitbox.

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#16  Edited By waltefmoney
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Wasn't there an article stating Ryse has way more impressive models than Killzone from a technical standpoint?

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#17  Edited By lostrib
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@AMD655 said:

Oh and just so you know..... PC version uses FXAA which blurrs the screen. so these shots are not a real representation of the actual PC models, let someone do shots without FXAA on.

how do you know these are using FXAA? also weren't you banned before?

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#18  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@waltefmoney: It probably does because with all of the up-close fighting you do in a melee based game the character models are very important.

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#19  Edited By killzowned24
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@waltefmoney said:

Wasn't there an article stating Ryse has way more impressive models than Killzone from a technical standpoint?

I have yet to see it,Ryse has very poor textured clothing. In fact the pixel counters at gaf have said all its videos have been in 1080p so are either pc or prerendered.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87271798&postcount=61

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#20  Edited By deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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@lostrib said:

@AMD655 said:

Oh and just so you know..... PC version uses FXAA which blurrs the screen. so these shots are not a real representation of the actual PC models, let someone do shots without FXAA on.

how do you know these are using FXAA? also weren't you banned before?

If i was banned i would not be posting o.0

Maxing BF3 and 4 includes post AA which is FXAA.

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#21  Edited By lostrib
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@AMD655 said:

@lostrib said:

@AMD655 said:

Oh and just so you know..... PC version uses FXAA which blurrs the screen. so these shots are not a real representation of the actual PC models, let someone do shots without FXAA on.

how do you know these are using FXAA? also weren't you banned before?

If i was banned i would not be posting o.0

Maxing BF3 and 4 includes post AA which is FXAA.

A lot of banned users got unbanned with the redesign. Well with custom settings you can set everything to ultra and then turn off the post AA, that's what I do with BF3 because Post because it makes shit blurry

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#22  Edited By deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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@lostrib said:

@AMD655 said:

@lostrib said:

@AMD655 said:

Oh and just so you know..... PC version uses FXAA which blurrs the screen. so these shots are not a real representation of the actual PC models, let someone do shots without FXAA on.

how do you know these are using FXAA? also weren't you banned before?

If i was banned i would not be posting o.0

Maxing BF3 and 4 includes post AA which is FXAA.

A lot of banned users got unbanned with the redesign. Well with custom settings you can set everything to ultra and then turn off the post AA, that's what I do with BF3 because Post because it makes shit blurry

I got some time out before, but i was not banned, i have been able to post for a long time but i do things IRL too.

Yeah, Post AA is not nice.

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#23  Edited By lostrib
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@AMD655 said:

@lostrib said:

@AMD655 said:

@lostrib said:

@AMD655 said:

Oh and just so you know..... PC version uses FXAA which blurrs the screen. so these shots are not a real representation of the actual PC models, let someone do shots without FXAA on.

how do you know these are using FXAA? also weren't you banned before?

If i was banned i would not be posting o.0

Maxing BF3 and 4 includes post AA which is FXAA.

A lot of banned users got unbanned with the redesign. Well with custom settings you can set everything to ultra and then turn off the post AA, that's what I do with BF3 because Post because it makes shit blurry

I got some time out before, but i was not banned, i have been able to post for a long time but i do things IRL too.

Yeah, Post AA is not nice.

I think i have it on low, if at all. I remember being annoyed having everything turned up and wondering why crap was blurry. Until I figured out that Post AA was just crappy FXAA, turning it down makes everything look much better/sharper

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#24  Edited By BluRayHiDef
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The character on the left is butt ugly. God damn.

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#25 Tessellation
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BF4 looks better,no question about it.

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#26  Edited By GhoX
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Crysis 3 has better models than BF4.

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@killzowned24 said:

@waltefmoney said:

Wasn't there an article stating Ryse has way more impressive models than Killzone from a technical standpoint?

I have yet to see it,Ryse has very poor textured clothing. In fact the pixel counters at gaf have said all its videos have been in 1080p so are either pc or prerendered.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87271798&postcount=61

They also lowered the model poly count from 150.000 at the E3 demo to 85.000 in the final version and will run in 1600x900 resolution.

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@killzowned24 said:

@waltefmoney said:

Wasn't there an article stating Ryse has way more impressive models than Killzone from a technical standpoint?

I have yet to see it,Ryse has very poor textured clothing. In fact the pixel counters at gaf have said all its videos have been in 1080p so are either pc or prerendered.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87271798&postcount=61

Right here.

Kinda makes KZ:SF look like Minecraft on low settings.

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@-Unreal- said:

A far better shot for comparison. The one in the OP is used to favour Killzone because the lighting is completely different in both shots

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#31 killzowned24
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^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

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^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

The killzone shot isn't much better. Both games have great face models but the clothes and materials are a bit muddy. In fact Crysis 3 did it too.

Honestly there isn't much in it, both look great. BF wins in motion though because the facial animations and lip syncing in Shadow Fall are AWFUL, they completely destroy the great realism of the model itself

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Makes next gen console games look like crap LMAO.

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Nice to see a launch console game of significantly weaker specs hold its own against a PC version of a game on high settings. What are hermits spending their money on?

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#36 killzowned24
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@killzowned24 said:

^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

The killzone shot isn't much better. Both games have great face models but the clothes and materials are a bit muddy. In fact Crysis 3 did it too.

Honestly there isn't much in it, both look great. BF wins in motion though because the facial animations and lip syncing in Shadow Fall are AWFUL, they completely destroy the great realism of the model itself

Please show me this amazing BF4 animations.

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#37 lostrib
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@killzowned24 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@killzowned24 said:

^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

The killzone shot isn't much better. Both games have great face models but the clothes and materials are a bit muddy. In fact Crysis 3 did it too.

Honestly there isn't much in it, both look great. BF wins in motion though because the facial animations and lip syncing in Shadow Fall are AWFUL, they completely destroy the great realism of the model itself

Please show me this amazing BF4 animations.

What is wrong with her face? and why is the hood rectangular?

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#38  Edited By NFJSupreme
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@killzowned24 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@killzowned24 said:

^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

The killzone shot isn't much better. Both games have great face models but the clothes and materials are a bit muddy. In fact Crysis 3 did it too.

Honestly there isn't much in it, both look great. BF wins in motion though because the facial animations and lip syncing in Shadow Fall are AWFUL, they completely destroy the great realism of the model itself

Please show me this amazing BF4 animations.

you were saying?

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@lostrib said:

@killzowned24 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@killzowned24 said:

^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

The killzone shot isn't much better. Both games have great face models but the clothes and materials are a bit muddy. In fact Crysis 3 did it too.

Honestly there isn't much in it, both look great. BF wins in motion though because the facial animations and lip syncing in Shadow Fall are AWFUL, they completely destroy the great realism of the model itself

Please show me this amazing BF4 animations.

What is wrong with her face? and why is the hood rectangular?

she is a Helghast they look very different, almost vampire like.And the hood is called art style.

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#40  Edited By deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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@NFJSupreme said:

@killzowned24 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@killzowned24 said:

^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

The killzone shot isn't much better. Both games have great face models but the clothes and materials are a bit muddy. In fact Crysis 3 did it too.

Honestly there isn't much in it, both look great. BF wins in motion though because the facial animations and lip syncing in Shadow Fall are AWFUL, they completely destroy the great realism of the model itself

Please show me this amazing BF4 animations.

They both look off, just for different reasons.

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Oblong hoods are now art style....

She has a brick head?

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@killzowned24 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@killzowned24 said:

^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

The killzone shot isn't much better. Both games have great face models but the clothes and materials are a bit muddy. In fact Crysis 3 did it too.

Honestly there isn't much in it, both look great. BF wins in motion though because the facial animations and lip syncing in Shadow Fall are AWFUL, they completely destroy the great realism of the model itself

Please show me this amazing BF4 animations.

They're terrible, watching the gameplay where the black guy is talking and briefing you, his mouth doesn't move at all like the words he's actually saying which is a huge shame. The facial models are amazing but the animations don't do them justice.The girl in this gif has a really weird mouth animation and the mouth is where a face model soars or fails

The BF4 gif of the chinese girl posted is far more subtle and realistic looking

Some BF4 models in the gameplay environment naturally (aka not forced close ups)

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@AMD655 said:

Oblong hoods are now art style....

She has a brick head?

yes, the helghan snipers usually have that type of hood.

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#44  Edited By HaloinventedFPS
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BF4 wins slightly

Both of them caught up to Crysis from 2007

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#45 FoxbatAlpha
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Takes a dump on KZ. Ryse: Son of Rome

Sorry Killzone: Framerate fall. Those are PS3 launch character models. Very bad ones.

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@NFJSupreme said:

@killzowned24 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@killzowned24 said:

^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

The killzone shot isn't much better. Both games have great face models but the clothes and materials are a bit muddy. In fact Crysis 3 did it too.

Honestly there isn't much in it, both look great. BF wins in motion though because the facial animations and lip syncing in Shadow Fall are AWFUL, they completely destroy the great realism of the model itself

Please show me this amazing BF4 animations.

you were saying?

That is very old and may look better or worse or not there at all, post something new. Regardless you can't possibly say that is better as only her lips moves with no other facial expressions.

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#47  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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@killzowned24 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@killzowned24 said:

^^^ that a better shot ,but look around his neck it look like concrete lol.

The killzone shot isn't much better. Both games have great face models but the clothes and materials are a bit muddy. In fact Crysis 3 did it too.

Honestly there isn't much in it, both look great. BF wins in motion though because the facial animations and lip syncing in Shadow Fall are AWFUL, they completely destroy the great realism of the model itself

Please show me this amazing BF4 animations.

Looks like Mick Jagger after chewing on a pen.

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@killzowned24 said:

@NFJSupreme said:

@killzowned24 said:

Please show me this amazing BF4 animations.

you were saying?

That is very old and may look better or worse or not there at all, post something new. Regardless you can't possibly say that is better as only her lips moves with no other facial expressions.

You asked for an example, he gave it to you, suck it up and stop moving the goal posts.

Even then it would only be the visuals that would change (lighting,textures) in the final build, not the actual facial rigging itself so the animation would still look the same

Real people's facial movements are subtle and nuanced, that's why it's VERY hard to get right. BF4 does it better than KZ:SF from the footage shown

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#49 FoxbatAlpha
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Yep, looks like ass.

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All these faces are weird.