BF4: Big Fall Update to Make The Game Not Suck

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#1  Edited By lostrib
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So Dice has released their major fall update to try and fix the hunk of crap and frustration that has been BF4 Multiplayer

Anyone who was in the CTE may already be familiar with many of those changes, so thank you PCMR for helping Dice out

Core Changes:

- Player movement has been improved to more closely match that of Battlefield 3, while still maintaining the animation fidelity of Battlefield 4.

- The High Frequency Network Update has now been added to the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 and is set to default. This makes the server update the client on what is happening with greater frequency, resulting in a smoother, more “correct” player experience.

- Reduced visualrecoil of guns. This includes all medium and close range sights (except iron sights, IRNV and FLIR).

- The BF4 ”netcode” has seen several tweaks and is now the fastest in the franchise’s history, counting client-to-client values. The delay is now lower than ever, and we’re also looking to improve hit detection.

*However the new "netcode" has caused them to change the weapon damage so almost all primary weapons need one extra bullet to kill someone

Also the UI has been streamlined giving you options to remove the clutter and icons on your screen

They've also introduced the triage system to show a timer for revives

There are also changes to grenades to decrease grenade spam

So has anyone tried out the patch, and does the game play better? Or are we all pretty much just giving DICE the finger at this point?

Source: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/bf4-fall-update-now-live/

Full update notes: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2979150494051082340/

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#2 freedomfreak
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Right on time.

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#3 Blabadon
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I've always wanted to pick this game up

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#4  Edited By ghostwarrior786
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battlefield mainline series is utter shit because instead of focusing on fun they focus on realism. bad company was the perfect balance of fun and real and the destruction was awesome and they threw that shit away by releasing the crap fest that is bf3/bf4. **** ea

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#5 lostrib
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Oh and there supposedly have been changes to Rush so that it is no longer a one sided shit fest, placing actual cover around the MCOMs

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#6 GrenadeLauncher
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Might pick it up now. Used, of course.

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#7 NFJSupreme
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So no more invisible obstacles?

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#8 ScarTM
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Have it on PS3.

I think many people will be able to feel my pain.

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#9 Heil68
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I'd give it a shot with access with EA.

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#10  Edited By BldgIrsh
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Have played the CTE a week before. It was incredibly smooth and the hit reg was amazing. Guess i'll update it for the vanilla today.

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#12 lostrib
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Hmm, looks like the update resets the FOV, so people may need to mess with that since they changed the actual slider

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#14 uninspiredcup
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But Team Fortress 2 has been better for years.

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#16  Edited By lostrib
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Linked the full update notes in the OP

Big news for all you Magnum fans, they've removed trigger delay from all the revolvers

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#17 with_teeth26
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@lostrib said:

Or are we all pretty much just giving DICE the finger at this point?

I choose this option

The problems with BF3 and 4 run much deeper than bad netcode and lack of cover around MCOMS

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#18  Edited By BldgIrsh
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@lostrib said:

Hmm, looks like the update resets the FOV, so people may need to mess with that since they changed the actual slider

Oh... good to know. 90 FOV > 60 FOV but I probably wouldn't have noticed if it changed on me.

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#19 Sa1nT_Ch3wy
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I played a couple of games on conquest on my pc and it does feel more snappy and responsive. Definitely a move in the right direction.

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#20 kuu2
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It only been a year since it released, no biggie.

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#21 chaplainDMK
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

battlefield mainline series is utter shit because instead of focusing on fun they focus on realism. bad company was the perfect balance of fun and real and the destruction was awesome and they threw that shit away by releasing the crap fest that is bf3/bf4. **** ea

What?

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#22 clr84651
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@ghostwarrior786 said:

battlefield mainline series is utter shit because instead of focusing on fun they focus on realism. bad company was the perfect balance of fun and real and the destruction was awesome and they threw that shit away by releasing the crap fest that is bf3/bf4. **** ea

Battlefield games aren't fun to me.

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#23 lostrib
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@kuu2: well at least they're trying. And there's not a new battlefield this year so they gotta keep this one going

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#24  Edited By lostrib
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@NFJSupreme said:

So no more invisible obstacles?

er, maybe not

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#25 rgsniper1
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To bad they couldn't have fixed it when it mattered. Like sometime in the first 6 months of the games release (and that is stretching it way to far as it is). To me it looks like they are just concerned people are going to drop the franchise as I have after this debacle. Honestly it was a franchise in my top 5, now I wont buy another. I just don't have the time, money, will or patience to deal with crap like this.

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#26  Edited By lostrib
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@NFJSupreme said:

So no more invisible obstacles?

Better version of gif

http://www.gfycat.com/DizzyAgreeableIbis

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#27 lostrib
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Game seems pretty smooth. new system for revives is great, it gives a audible beep when the paddles are charged. It's going to take some time to get used to the new TTK and Recoil

I might start playing BF4 again

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#28 lawlessx
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only took about a year. goes to show just how much these guys really care about the battlefield IP

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#29 m3dude1
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its a big improvement but theres still lots of broken randomness

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#30  Edited By EducatingU_PCMR
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Too bad the netcode still sucks.

Game can't even reach BF3 status, which was not great to begin with.

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#31 harry_james_pot  Moderator
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The netcode is not perfect.. But since the update I haven't been killed behind walls or any of that nonsese at all, the improvement was immediately apparent. The visual recoil being gone is also a fantastic thing. :D

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#32 Mr-Powers
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I can't go back to DICE netcode after experiencing the smoothness of Destiny MP, and they did it the first try not a year later. Maybe it's something with their engine because the bullets lag in plant's vs zombies too but it was still an improvement over BF4.

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#33 lostrib
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@mr-powers said:

I can't go back to DICE netcode after experiencing the smoothness of Destiny MP, and they did it the first try not a year later. Maybe it's something with their engine because the bullets lag in plant's vs zombies too but it was still an improvement over BF4.

But they're also entirely different styles of multiplayer

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#34  Edited By jg4xchamp
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I'll give Dice the benefit of the doubt the next time they do Battlefield. You know BF5, maybe Bad Company 3, or more importantly 2143

The Battlefield mainline games are usually terrific to really good: Love 1942/2142, had a blast with BF2, enjoyed BF3. I have faith that after Mirror's Edge (get it? do you get it?) and the Star Wars game, and a little time away from BF will do good. But, BF4? or Battlefield: Domestic Terrorism by Visceral games? no thank you.

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#35 RR360DD
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Played a bit of it last night for the first time in months. Might give it a shot until Halo MCC comes out.