Battlefield 4 - Review 8.0 - KEEP IT HERE

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#201 Edited by Jebus213 (8963 posts) -

As a graphics whore myself this thread is absolutely disgusting.

*hits back button in disgust*

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#202 Posted by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

@princeofshapeir said:

@Wasdie said:

I played more of the single player last night. I couldn't play any multiplayer due to horrible server lag. Even on all high settings (not ultra, my rig can't handle that) the game is probably the best looking game I've ever played. It's a combination of the amount of detail that has gone into each environment, the scale, and the engine. The game is seriously beautiful.

The single player is not that bad so far. Had one frustrating moment that kind of took me out of it though. Multiple playthroughs of the game aren't going to be as fun as they could as the game's scripted sequences often dampen the pace too much.

Playing on Ultra and the game looks amazing. Character models and lighting in particular are what wow me; the facial and body animations are very natural and at times the game crosses into the uncanny valley. I am so glad DICE listened to players and got rid of that disgusting blueish-green tint from BF3--colors are so much more natural and the lighting lends the game this beautiful photorealistic look. As far as the PC version on Ultra is concerned, no other next-gen game I've seen thus far looks better.

this times a million.

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#203 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

@enviouseyezonme said:

JeeZ why is everybody in an uproar over this game?? I just wasted 30min of my life watching jackfrags single player segments on both X1 and PS4 and both look like a$$. Neither truly represent anything of a "nex-gen" experience IMO. This is just like AC4..

Because they're cross generational games and shouldn't be used to represent "true next gen experiences"

Leave that up to something like Killzone which is solely on one piece of next gen hardware to see what it's capable of right now. Plus it will get better in time

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#205 Posted by Wasdie (52319 posts) -

@princeofshapeir: I played a bit on ultra and there is definitely an increase in quality, especially with the textures. However it's far too taxing on my machine to make it worthwhile. I need a new GPU. My 2x 570s can't do it anymore :(.

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#206 Edited by Wasdie (52319 posts) -

@Jebus213: Where have I said any of that here? When discussing Battlefield 3 many people, including yourself, continued to bash the game on the basis it's not BF2 reskinned. Especially since BF2 is incredibly overrated due to nostalgia glasses. That got annoying after 2 years.

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#207 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

@TheGuardian03 said:

^ that gif looks like real life, not joking.

The game really does cross the uncanny valley at times. The lighting is superb

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#208 Posted by Wasdie (52319 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

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#209 Posted by -Unreal- (24650 posts) -

Console gaming - The battle for second best rages on.

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#210 Edited by TheTruthIsREAL (808 posts) -

The picture with the birds in the scrap yard, look in the upper left corner lol. Why do it looks so ugly. Looks like ps2 era textures for the Xbone. Is it supposed to look like that?

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#211 Posted by NameIess_One (1077 posts) -

@princeofshapeir said:

@Wasdie said:

I played more of the single player last night. I couldn't play any multiplayer due to horrible server lag. Even on all high settings (not ultra, my rig can't handle that) the game is probably the best looking game I've ever played. It's a combination of the amount of detail that has gone into each environment, the scale, and the engine. The game is seriously beautiful.

The single player is not that bad so far. Had one frustrating moment that kind of took me out of it though. Multiple playthroughs of the game aren't going to be as fun as they could as the game's scripted sequences often dampen the pace too much.

Playing on Ultra and the game looks amazing. Character models and lighting in particular are what wow me; the facial and body animations are very natural and at times the game crosses into the uncanny valley. I am so glad DICE listened to players and got rid of that disgusting blueish-green tint from BF3--colors are so much more natural and the lighting lends the game this beautiful photorealistic look. As far as the PC version on Ultra is concerned, no other next-gen game I've seen thus far looks better.

You have a 670 GTX, right?

How's the performance on ultra?

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#212 Posted by Snugenz (13388 posts) -

Just had my first game on Lancang Dam, this game is ridiculous looking, even more so when you factor in it being a 64 player map.

Loving the Test Range aswell, really nice addition.

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#213 Posted by superclocked (5864 posts) -

@Wasdie: I actually prefer multisampling AA + morphological AA over supersampling. Not only do edges look much smoother, but the combo runs better than SSAA, too...

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#214 Posted by Seabas989 (12540 posts) -

In other words: meh.

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#215 Edited by princeofshapeir (15950 posts) -

@NameIess_One said:

@princeofshapeir said:

@Wasdie said:

I played more of the single player last night. I couldn't play any multiplayer due to horrible server lag. Even on all high settings (not ultra, my rig can't handle that) the game is probably the best looking game I've ever played. It's a combination of the amount of detail that has gone into each environment, the scale, and the engine. The game is seriously beautiful.

The single player is not that bad so far. Had one frustrating moment that kind of took me out of it though. Multiple playthroughs of the game aren't going to be as fun as they could as the game's scripted sequences often dampen the pace too much.

Playing on Ultra and the game looks amazing. Character models and lighting in particular are what wow me; the facial and body animations are very natural and at times the game crosses into the uncanny valley. I am so glad DICE listened to players and got rid of that disgusting blueish-green tint from BF3--colors are so much more natural and the lighting lends the game this beautiful photorealistic look. As far as the PC version on Ultra is concerned, no other next-gen game I've seen thus far looks better.

You have a 670 GTX, right?

How's the performance on ultra?

Based only on single player, framerate hovers around 45-60 FPS for me, probably 50-55 average. The lowest I've seen it go is 32. Ultra settings include 4x MSAA so I imagine that eats some frames.

On the whole I think it's optimized well considering the visual quality. As a point of reference, for me, BF3 on Ultra ran at 60+ FPS constantly.

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#216 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

The guy who posted that gif on GAF has two Titans and is playing at something like a 5000xsomething resolution and downsampling it. It's crazy, he's only getting like 15-35 fps lol

I really want to get the new AMD cards cos they're stronger and cheaper than a Titan but they run like 90C which is hot as HELL! I wanna see what Mantle offers though. You're a tech software guy, do you think Mantle will be worth it/make a difference? I've always been team green but am considering crossing over for next gen.

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#217 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

@Seabas989 said:

In other words: meh.

An 8.0 is far from "meh"

I hate how system wars reacts to scores these days. Anything below a 9.0 seems to just be considered as bad

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#218 Posted by Dreams-Visions (26569 posts) -

I'll probably pick this up on PC.

also...THE KING IS BACK.

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#219 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@Dreams-Visions said:

I'll probably pick this up on PC.

also...THE KING IS BACK.

the king?

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#220 Posted by greensand24 (457 posts) -

@lostrib:

Lol this Is I think the 4th time I've seen a cow try to claim ownage with comparison shots and they look better on the One.

Still waiting to find one comparison shot that looks better than the XOne.

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#221 Edited by TheTruthIsREAL (808 posts) -

@greensand24: but they don't lol. Ps4 version do look better.

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#222 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

@Dreams-Visions said:

I'll probably pick this up on PC.

also...THE KING IS BACK.

If you're referring to yourself then I have some bad news cos I don't know who you are lol

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#223 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18711 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Dreams-Visions said:

I'll probably pick this up on PC.

also...THE KING IS BACK.

If you're referring to yourself then I have some bad news cos I don't know who you are lol

He could be referring to the ps4's superior performance.

Who knows?

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#224 Edited by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Wasdie said:

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

The guy who posted that gif on GAF has two Titans and is playing at something like a 5000xsomething resolution and downsampling it. It's crazy, he's only getting like 15-35 fps lol

I really want to get the new AMD cards cos they're stronger and cheaper than a Titan but they run like 90C which is hot as HELL! I wanna see what Mantle offers though. You're a tech software guy, do you think Mantle will be worth it/make a difference? I've always been team green but am considering crossing over for next gen.

I think AMD is gonna be in a sweet position this next gen. With mantle and the next systems being fully AMD as well. And for BF4, it's an AMD sponsored game/engine. My 7970 is tearing it up like it's nothing

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#225 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Wasdie said:

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

The guy who posted that gif on GAF has two Titans and is playing at something like a 5000xsomething resolution and downsampling it. It's crazy, he's only getting like 15-35 fps lol

I really want to get the new AMD cards cos they're stronger and cheaper than a Titan but they run like 90C which is hot as HELL! I wanna see what Mantle offers though. You're a tech software guy, do you think Mantle will be worth it/make a difference? I've always been team green but am considering crossing over for next gen.

I think AMD is gonna be in a sweet position this next gen. With mantle and the next systems being fully AMD as well. And for BF4, it's an AMD sponsored game/engine. My 7970 is tearing it up like it's nothing

Hopefully by the time I need/want a new GPU, mantle will be fully implemented and be able to say for sure if AMD has an advantage in games

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#226 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18711 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@wis3boi said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Wasdie said:

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

The guy who posted that gif on GAF has two Titans and is playing at something like a 5000xsomething resolution and downsampling it. It's crazy, he's only getting like 15-35 fps lol

I really want to get the new AMD cards cos they're stronger and cheaper than a Titan but they run like 90C which is hot as HELL! I wanna see what Mantle offers though. You're a tech software guy, do you think Mantle will be worth it/make a difference? I've always been team green but am considering crossing over for next gen.

I think AMD is gonna be in a sweet position this next gen. With mantle and the next systems being fully AMD as well. And for BF4, it's an AMD sponsored game/engine. My 7970 is tearing it up like it's nothing

Hopefully by the time I need/want a new GPU, mantle will be fully implemented and be able to say for sure if AMD has an advantage in games

That 290x looks really tempting, especially since I have a fairly nice nvidia card already that I could devote to physx.

I think I'm waiting for a better cooler placed on it by a 3rd party and maybe a little bit more of a price drop.

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#227 Posted by R4gn4r0k (22659 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Seabas989 said:

In other words: meh.

An 8.0 is far from "meh"

I hate how system wars reacts to scores these days. Anything below a 9.0 seems to just be considered as bad

lol 9s. Anything that doesn't win GOTY is simply not worth playing.

I only play one game per year BTW.

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#228 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@wis3boi said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Wasdie said:

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

The guy who posted that gif on GAF has two Titans and is playing at something like a 5000xsomething resolution and downsampling it. It's crazy, he's only getting like 15-35 fps lol

I really want to get the new AMD cards cos they're stronger and cheaper than a Titan but they run like 90C which is hot as HELL! I wanna see what Mantle offers though. You're a tech software guy, do you think Mantle will be worth it/make a difference? I've always been team green but am considering crossing over for next gen.

I think AMD is gonna be in a sweet position this next gen. With mantle and the next systems being fully AMD as well. And for BF4, it's an AMD sponsored game/engine. My 7970 is tearing it up like it's nothing

Hopefully by the time I need/want a new GPU, mantle will be fully implemented and be able to say for sure if AMD has an advantage in games

That 290x looks really tempting, especially since I have a fairly nice nvidia card already that I could devote to physx.

I think I'm waiting for a better cooler placed on it by a 3rd party and maybe a little bit more of a price drop.

unless you find hacked drivers, you can not use an NVIDIA card for physx alongside a AMD GPU

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#229 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (18711 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@wis3boi said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Wasdie said:

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

The guy who posted that gif on GAF has two Titans and is playing at something like a 5000xsomething resolution and downsampling it. It's crazy, he's only getting like 15-35 fps lol

I really want to get the new AMD cards cos they're stronger and cheaper than a Titan but they run like 90C which is hot as HELL! I wanna see what Mantle offers though. You're a tech software guy, do you think Mantle will be worth it/make a difference? I've always been team green but am considering crossing over for next gen.

I think AMD is gonna be in a sweet position this next gen. With mantle and the next systems being fully AMD as well. And for BF4, it's an AMD sponsored game/engine. My 7970 is tearing it up like it's nothing

Hopefully by the time I need/want a new GPU, mantle will be fully implemented and be able to say for sure if AMD has an advantage in games

That 290x looks really tempting, especially since I have a fairly nice nvidia card already that I could devote to physx.

I think I'm waiting for a better cooler placed on it by a 3rd party and maybe a little bit more of a price drop.

unless you find hacked drivers, you can not use an NVIDIA card for physx alongside a AMD GPU

I thought for sure you could, that's a pretty big bummer then.

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#230 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Wasdie said:

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

The guy who posted that gif on GAF has two Titans and is playing at something like a 5000xsomething resolution and downsampling it. It's crazy, he's only getting like 15-35 fps lol

I really want to get the new AMD cards cos they're stronger and cheaper than a Titan but they run like 90C which is hot as HELL! I wanna see what Mantle offers though. You're a tech software guy, do you think Mantle will be worth it/make a difference? I've always been team green but am considering crossing over for next gen.

I think AMD is gonna be in a sweet position this next gen. With mantle and the next systems being fully AMD as well. And for BF4, it's an AMD sponsored game/engine. My 7970 is tearing it up like it's nothing

That's what I'm thinking. AMD seems to be where it's at right now price:performance wise

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#231 Posted by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@wis3boi said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Wasdie said:

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

The guy who posted that gif on GAF has two Titans and is playing at something like a 5000xsomething resolution and downsampling it. It's crazy, he's only getting like 15-35 fps lol

I really want to get the new AMD cards cos they're stronger and cheaper than a Titan but they run like 90C which is hot as HELL! I wanna see what Mantle offers though. You're a tech software guy, do you think Mantle will be worth it/make a difference? I've always been team green but am considering crossing over for next gen.

I think AMD is gonna be in a sweet position this next gen. With mantle and the next systems being fully AMD as well. And for BF4, it's an AMD sponsored game/engine. My 7970 is tearing it up like it's nothing

Hopefully by the time I need/want a new GPU, mantle will be fully implemented and be able to say for sure if AMD has an advantage in games

That 290x looks really tempting, especially since I have a fairly nice nvidia card already that I could devote to physx.

I think I'm waiting for a better cooler placed on it by a 3rd party and maybe a little bit more of a price drop.

unless you find hacked drivers, you can not use an NVIDIA card for physx alongside a AMD GPU

I thought for sure you could, that's a pretty big bummer then.

hacked drivers being the key words there, but it does work. And physx is usually really dumb anyways.....Borderlands 2 is the only one that does it good enough to be worth it, and it runs great without nvidia anyways

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#232 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18711 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@lostrib said:

@wis3boi said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Wasdie said:

@seanmcloughlin: When I finally get a new GPU I hope to run the game on ultra settings at 200% supersampleing. A lot of the graphical issues I see are just due to aliasing and stuff that would be completely ironed out with a higher resolution downsampled.

The guy who posted that gif on GAF has two Titans and is playing at something like a 5000xsomething resolution and downsampling it. It's crazy, he's only getting like 15-35 fps lol

I really want to get the new AMD cards cos they're stronger and cheaper than a Titan but they run like 90C which is hot as HELL! I wanna see what Mantle offers though. You're a tech software guy, do you think Mantle will be worth it/make a difference? I've always been team green but am considering crossing over for next gen.

I think AMD is gonna be in a sweet position this next gen. With mantle and the next systems being fully AMD as well. And for BF4, it's an AMD sponsored game/engine. My 7970 is tearing it up like it's nothing

Hopefully by the time I need/want a new GPU, mantle will be fully implemented and be able to say for sure if AMD has an advantage in games

That 290x looks really tempting, especially since I have a fairly nice nvidia card already that I could devote to physx.

I think I'm waiting for a better cooler placed on it by a 3rd party and maybe a little bit more of a price drop.

unless you find hacked drivers, you can not use an NVIDIA card for physx alongside a AMD GPU

I thought for sure you could, that's a pretty big bummer then.

hacked drivers being the key words there, but it does work. And physx is usually really dumb anyways.....Borderlands 2 is the only one that does it good enough to be worth it, and it runs great without nvidia anyways

I just hope it's less pronounced this gen or AMD has a counter for it.

I just hate missing out on that kind of stuff.

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#233 Posted by danabo (2476 posts) -

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version in those comparisons.

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#234 Edited by HoolaHoopMan (8518 posts) -

I'll be picking it up, like how they added the sandbox island for MP just to dick around. I'm not holding my breath for the SP though. BF3 had an awful campaign which almost makes me want to tell them to forget it all together or actually put forth a decent effort.

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#235 Posted by EducatingU_PCMR (1418 posts) -

My guess with these screenshots is that the PS4 is using a much more aggressive form of post-process AA, and therefore the textures get blurrier.

Same happens with the PC version, if you use Post AA it completely blurs the nice textures and makes it look like shit.

This can be alleviated by upping the sharpness on your TV, and similar filters.

The XO has horrible aliasing, probably because the AA method (if used at all) is not as strong as on the PS4, which in turns benefits textures, but does a shitty job on jaggies. Aliasing is something a TV won't fix, you'll actually need to disable some filters (edge sharpening) to make it look not as crappy.

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#236 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

@danabo said:

Xbox One version looks better than the PS4 version in those comparisons.

It seems to have a higher contrast crushing the blacks but also making certain elemts POP a bit more giving the illusion of looking better.

Like so many mods for PC games just up the contrast to stupid levels and people say it looks better

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#237 Posted by greensand24 (457 posts) -

@TheTruthIsREAL:

@greensand24: "but they don't lol. Ps4 version do look better."

Then show me one. I've even gone to sites other than DF and AT WORST for the XOne both versions look the same.

In other words I've either seen shots that look better on the XOne or they look the same.

And I'm not the only one. Oh and lol at fanboys trying to explain it away and spin with terms such as artificial sharpening....WTF?

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#238 Edited by greensand24 (457 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin:

The illusion of looking better? What the hell does that even mean lol? It either looks good or it doesn't. Why are you over complicating things?

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#239 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

@greensand24 said:

@seanmcloughlin:

The illusion of looking better? What the hell does that even mean lol? It either looks good or it doesn't. Why are you over complicating things?

I was gonna give a proper reply to this but searching through your previous posts it would seem you have a strong bias towards the Xbox so I'm not even gonna bother now because you would come up with some reason why I'm wrong

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#240 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

Oh and I finally finished downloading the game and played the first two SP missions.... holy god it's the best looking game I've ever seen. And that's saying a lot cos Metro LL and Crysis 3 look amazing

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#241 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

Oh and I finally finished downloading the game and played the first two SP missions.... holy god it's the best looking game I've ever seen. And that's saying a lot cos Metro LL and Crysis 3 look amazing

Jesus, how slow is your internet? didn't you start it like yesterday?

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#242 Edited by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

Oh and I finally finished downloading the game and played the first two SP missions.... holy god it's the best looking game I've ever seen. And that's saying a lot cos Metro LL and Crysis 3 look amazing

Jesus, how slow is your internet? didn't you start it like yesterday?

VERY damn slow, started on monday and was getting 150KB/s almost constant. Sometimes it went to 400

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#244 Edited by McStrongfast (4679 posts) -

Only played a wee bit, but SP already seems like a significant improvement over BF3. Intro is alright storytelling, ok use of licensed song, you can sort of spot people and sort of have your squad help, gather weapons like in BC and at least that one section was more freeform, like BC. Hope the whole rest of the game is like that, but I hear it isn't. Has a scoring system, which I guess is a good thing. Although with a gameism like that it seems they'll trip themselves and fall on the cake they wanna eat with the emotional bondage. Getting control taken away is so damned trite. For as little as I've played, it feels like I've only actually played like half of it.

MP is very more of the same so far. There are improvements, tweaks, intricacies and big things like Commander, but the overall feel of most everything is super familiar if you've played BF3 for some amount of recent time. Don't know how long I'll stick by this one honestly. Hopefully other maps are more alluring than Shanghai, which is the only one I've played so far. Or maybe I'll get into Obliteration. Or the aforementioned Commander position. Not throwing the towel in this early.

The first map I joined was actually Operation Locker. After seeing the spawn screen and then spawning and playing for 30 seconds I'll say **** you people who kept playing Metro. Look what you did, you utter turds. So I quit that one.

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#245 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@McStrongfast said:

Only played a wee bit, but SP already seems like a significant improvement over BF3. Intro is alright storytelling, ok use of licensed song, you can sort of spot people and sort of have your squad help, gather weapons like in BC and at least that one section was more freeform, like BC. Hope the whole rest of the game is like that, but I hear it isn't. Has a scoring system, which I guess is a good thing. Although with a gameism like that it seems they'll trip themselves and fall on the cake they wanna eat with the emotional bondage. Getting control taken away is so damned trite. For as little as I've played, it feels like I've only actually played like half of it.

MP is very more of the same so far. There are improvements, tweaks, intricacies and big things like Commander, but the overall feel of most everything is super familiar if you've played BF3 for some amount of recent time. Don't know how long I'll stick by this one honestly. Hopefully other maps are more alluring than Shanghai, which is the only one I've played so far. Or maybe I'll get into Obliteration. Or the aforementioned Commander position. Not throwing the towel in this early.

The first map I joined was actually Operation Locker. After seeing the spawn screen and then spawning and playing for 30 seconds I'll say **** you people who kept playing Metro. Look what you did, you utter turds. So I quit that one.

Locker is a better map than Metro

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#246 Posted by McStrongfast (4679 posts) -

Well obviously. How could anything possibly match or exceed its putrid awfulness?

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#247 Posted by wis3boi (32507 posts) -

Benchmarks out

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#248 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@McStrongfast said:

Well obviously. How could anything possibly match or exceed its putrid awfulness?

well they are remaking it for DLC...

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#249 Edited by -Unreal- (24650 posts) -

40 FPS at ultra 1600p.

Consoles can suck it.

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#250 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38222 posts) -

Really tempted to upgrade my GPU for the MP. Single Player runs maxed out at 60 almost constant so far but the MP is gonna be another story completely and because the game looks so good I wanna be playing on higher settings. Normally I play on all low in MP just to get near 144 fps for my monitor