4k is twice the resolution of 1080p if a monitor is 4k thats so many more pixels and so many more clearness its gonna be a completely diff level look at backgrounds on a desktop monitor at 4k res u can never go back to 1080p once u witness 4k as far im concerned its impossible for me to go back its twice as much its twice as good once u go there theres no going back tv's need to get there on this level
I'll wait till the content for 4k becomes the norm.
Like when I go to Costco. I see the 80" 1080p t.v.s come down in price every time. I remember when 55" was untouchable and now you can get one for the price of a used microwave. 4K will be in the clearance isle soon enough!
According ex Naughty Dog dev, it'll take over 2 generations until Consoles come close to 4k. As for PC, it's expensive right now but I can see it becoming more mainstream in 3-5 years. I'm fine with 1080p.
2 years from should be fine for mainstream 4K on PC.
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p if a monitor is 4k thats so many more pixels and so many more clearness its gonna be a completely diff level look at backgrounds on a desktop monitor at 4k res u can never go back to 1080p once u witness 4k as far im concerned its impossible for me to go back its twice as much its twice as good once u go there theres no going back tv's need to get there on this level
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p? The PS4 is also the second PlayStation console, am I right? Too bad that stupidity isn't reason enough to ban someone on here.
4k is 4 times 1080p, genius. 2k is twice the resolution of 1080p. Math must be a really tough subject for you.
lol genius.. since when is k a multiplier? 1080p IS 2k lmao. k means thousand and the nickname refers to the number of horizontal lines of pixels
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p if a monitor is 4k thats so many more pixels and so many more clearness its gonna be a completely diff level look at backgrounds on a desktop monitor at 4k res u can never go back to 1080p once u witness 4k as far im concerned its impossible for me to go back its twice as much its twice as good once u go there theres no going back tv's need to get there on this level
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p? The PS4 is also the second PlayStation console, am I right? Too bad that stupidity isn't reason enough to ban someone on here.
4k is 4 times 1080p, genius. 2k is twice the resolution of 1080p. Math must be a really tough subject for you.
lol genius.. since when is k a multiplier? 1080p IS 2k lmao. k means thousand and the nickname refers to the number of horizontal lines of pixels
4k = 3840x2160 ... 3840 is about 4000 aka 4k
2k = 1920x1080 aka 1080p aka 2k
8k = 7680x4320... 7680 rounded up to 8000 aka 8k
1080p is similar to 2k but per Wikipedia it is not actually 2k:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution
"Occasionally, 1080p (Full HD or FHD) has been included into the 2K resolution definition. However, this appears to be incorrect consumer assumption, rather than official inclusion into the resolution terminology. Older and current media, web content, and books on video production and cinema references and definitions define 1080P and 2K resolutions as separate definitions and not the same.
1080p has the same vertical resolution as 2K Resolutions (1080 pixels), and 1080p can be utilized within the 2K resolution container. However 1080p has a smaller horizontal resolution below the ranged of 2K resolution formats.
According to official reference material, DCI and industry standards do not officially recognize 1080p as a 2K resolution in literature concerning 2K and 4K resolution."
It's more pixels, meaning less need for artificial things like AA, higher picture quality, and an increase in sharpness.
1080p is awesome but spread across a 40+ inch screen it's obvious there's room to increase pixel number.
This
And more to the topics point. Great keep gaming at 1080p, modern PC's will destroy games at 1080p and play at a much higher framerate than consoles could ever hope to compete with. The Witcher 3's medium is apparently where the console versions are at, and my 970 would crush it in the frames department.
Give it 5 years. 4k tvs will be far better than today, and cost half as much. Plus, you won't have to get a loan to afford GPUs that can actually run games at 4k at 60+fps.
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p if a monitor is 4k thats so many more pixels and so many more clearness its gonna be a completely diff level look at backgrounds on a desktop monitor at 4k res u can never go back to 1080p once u witness 4k as far im concerned its impossible for me to go back its twice as much its twice as good once u go there theres no going back tv's need to get there on this level
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p? The PS4 is also the second PlayStation console, am I right? Too bad that stupidity isn't reason enough to ban someone on here.
4k is 4 times 1080p, genius. 2k is twice the resolution of 1080p. Math must be a really tough subject for you.
lol genius.. since when is k a multiplier? 1080p IS 2k lmao. k means thousand and the nickname refers to the number of horizontal lines of pixels
4k = 3840x2160 ... 3840 is about 4000 aka 4k
2k = 1920x1080 aka 1080p aka 2k
8k = 7680x4320... 7680 rounded up to 8000 aka 8k
1080p is similar to 2k but per Wikipedia it is not actually 2k:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution
"Occasionally, 1080p (Full HD or FHD) has been included into the 2K resolution definition. However, this appears to be incorrect consumer assumption, rather than official inclusion into the resolution terminology. Older and current media, web content, and books on video production and cinema references and definitions define 1080P and 2K resolutions as separate definitions and not the same.
1080p has the same vertical resolution as 2K Resolutions (1080 pixels), and 1080p can be utilized within the 2K resolution container. However 1080p has a smaller horizontal resolution below the ranged of 2K resolution formats.
According to official reference material, DCI and industry standards do not officially recognize 1080p as a 2K resolution in literature concerning 2K and 4K resolution."
None of them are actual 2k/4k/8k because the "true" resolutions refer to cinema 1.85:1 aspect ratio.. TVs are 1.78:1. It says the same thing for 4k but it doesn't matter. The number before the k refers to horizontal resolution. It's not a multiplier. And TV manufacturers have already named 4k/8k TVs in mainstream marketing at 16/9 and there's not a damn thing cinema purists can do about it.
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p if a monitor is 4k thats so many more pixels and so many more clearness its gonna be a completely diff level look at backgrounds on a desktop monitor at 4k res u can never go back to 1080p once u witness 4k as far im concerned its impossible for me to go back its twice as much its twice as good once u go there theres no going back tv's need to get there on this level
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p? The PS4 is also the second PlayStation console, am I right? Too bad that stupidity isn't reason enough to ban someone on here.
4k is 4 times 1080p, genius. 2k is twice the resolution of 1080p. Math must be a really tough subject for you.
lol genius.. since when is k a multiplier? 1080p IS 2k lmao. k means thousand and the nickname refers to the number of horizontal lines of pixels
4k = 3840x2160 ... 3840 is about 4000 aka 4k
2k = 1920x1080 aka 1080p aka 2k
8k = 7680x4320... 7680 rounded up to 8000 aka 8k
Lol genius...I never said "k" was a multiplier.
It's a fact that 4k is 4 times 1080p, so take your bullshit elsewhere.
4k is 4 times 1080p by coincidence.. 2k is not twice the resolution of 1080p.. did you forget you made that moronic statement? rich that you ripped on someone else's math but completely misfired yourself
Average consumer rather watch shit like Tranformers than Mad Max. The premise of this thread is trash.
The average consumer on the planet is the average worker. The average worker worries more about whether they will be able to pay their bills the next cycle without having a major medical/vehicle/home/family/etc. expense. Do not speak of the majority with contempt like this.
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p if a monitor is 4k thats so many more pixels and so many more clearness its gonna be a completely diff level look at backgrounds on a desktop monitor at 4k res u can never go back to 1080p once u witness 4k as far im concerned its impossible for me to go back its twice as much its twice as good once u go there theres no going back tv's need to get there on this level
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p? The PS4 is also the second PlayStation console, am I right? Too bad that stupidity isn't reason enough to ban someone on here.
4k is 4 times 1080p, genius. 2k is twice the resolution of 1080p. Math must be a really tough subject for you.
lol genius.. since when is k a multiplier? 1080p IS 2k lmao. k means thousand and the nickname refers to the number of horizontal lines of pixels
4k = 3840x2160 ... 3840 is about 4000 aka 4k
2k = 1920x1080 aka 1080p aka 2k
8k = 7680x4320... 7680 rounded up to 8000 aka 8k
Lol genius...I never said "k" was a multiplier.
It's a fact that 4k is 4 times 1080p, so take your bullshit elsewhere.
4k is 4 times 1080p by coincidence.. 2k is not twice the resolution of 1080p.. did you forget you made that moronic statement? rich that you ripped on someone else's math but completely misfired yourself
Yeah, it's closer to 1.5 times, I shouldn't have rounded it up since there are always morons that take everything literal. I'll just answer your comment with your own words.
4k is 4 times 1080p by coincidence
"did you forget you made that moronic statement?" and "rich that you ripped on someone else's math but completely misfired yourself" go very well with this. Didn't I tell you to lay off the bullshit? Don't go around preaching about Mathematics, that subject clearly goes over your head.
Wow you are a moron. 2k 4k 8k have nothing to do with mathematics. They refer to the horizontal resolution.. 1080p IS 2k lmao i'm done.. you can't even comprehend what i'm saying or what these resolution marketing terms mean.. You are the only one spewing bullshit..
2k is not twice 1080p. its not 1.5times 1080p.. stop it.. you are fucking retarded. You assumed 2k is 2x 1080p because there is a 2 in the name.. lmao classic fucking dumbass
Yeah as a pc gamer I won't ditch 1080p until I am forced to on my 42 inch tv or my 144hz 24 inch monitor..... I really don't understand this hard on for these higher resolutions when your going to see reduced returns... And really we have been for years now in which visual improvements are becoming less noticable compared to the leaps 10 years ago... I mean I have trouble noticing a difference with 1080p and upscaled 900p, what is noticable though is fps between 30,60, and 120..
Average consumer rather watch shit like Tranformers than Mad Max. The premise of this thread is trash.
The average consumer on the planet is the average worker. The average worker worries more about whether they will be able to pay their bills the next cycle without having a major medical/vehicle/home/family/etc. expense. Do not speak of the majority with contempt like this.
Average consumer rather watch shit like Tranformers than Mad Max. The premise of this thread is trash.
The average consumer on the planet is the average worker. The average worker worries more about whether they will be able to pay their bills the next cycle without having a major medical/vehicle/home/family/etc. expense. Do not speak of the majority with contempt like this.
Look at the OP. That has nothing to do with it.
You really can't argue against the fact that 4k resolution is cost prohibitive currently with the cost of it on top of the hardware to use it at good performance.... Nor that you can make some kind of objective statement declaring that 4k resolution offers ore enjoyment than 1440p or 1080p...
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p if a monitor is 4k thats so many more pixels and so many more clearness its gonna be a completely diff level look at backgrounds on a desktop monitor at 4k res u can never go back to 1080p once u witness 4k as far im concerned its impossible for me to go back its twice as much its twice as good once u go there theres no going back tv's need to get there on this level
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p? The PS4 is also the second PlayStation console, am I right? Too bad that stupidity isn't reason enough to ban someone on here.
4k is 4 times 1080p, genius. 2k is twice the resolution of 1080p. Math must be a really tough subject for you.
lol genius.. since when is k a multiplier? 1080p IS 2k lmao. k means thousand and the nickname refers to the number of horizontal lines of pixels
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p if a monitor is 4k thats so many more pixels and so many more clearness its gonna be a completely diff level look at backgrounds on a desktop monitor at 4k res u can never go back to 1080p once u witness 4k as far im concerned its impossible for me to go back its twice as much its twice as good once u go there theres no going back tv's need to get there on this level
4k is twice the resolution of 1080p? The PS4 is also the second PlayStation console, am I right? Too bad that stupidity isn't reason enough to ban someone on here.
4k is 4 times 1080p, genius. 2k is twice the resolution of 1080p. Math must be a really tough subject for you.
lol genius.. since when is k a multiplier? 1080p IS 2k lmao. k means thousand and the nickname refers to the number of horizontal lines of pixels
4k = 3840x2160 ... 3840 is about 4000 aka 4k
2k = 1920x1080 aka 1080p aka 2k
8k = 7680x4320... 7680 rounded up to 8000 aka 8k
2k on PC is 2560*1440, not 1080p
No it's not. Actual 2k is 2048x1080 or 1990x1080. They are almost the exact same resolutions as 1920x1080 at around 2.1 million pixels and by the actual convention (vertical resultion) 1920x1080 is 2k. Actual 2k is 2.2 million pixels. 1080p is 2.1 million pixels
By the same convention, 2560x1440 would be 2.5k. It's also referred to as quadHD at 3.7 million pixels, much higher than 2k. Referring to 1440p as 2k or referring to 2k as twice the resolution of 1080p is dead wrong
It's more pixels, meaning less need for artificial things like AA, higher picture quality, and an increase in sharpness.
1080p is awesome but spread across a 40+ inch screen it's obvious there's room to increase pixel number.
so when does it stop? what if i have 100" screen? then its time for 5k?6k? i still watch standard vhs from time to time. I still play oldschool games. I dont really give a s&* about 4k or 10k or anything else. Keep in mind that people are just really buying into the hd tv thing. FINALLY it seems more people have them in their homes. BUT also keep in mind that most people are watching standard tv OR only 720p on their hd tvs. SO 1080p is still yet to be utilized by probably 90% of the hd tv population. AND if it is you still cant see a difference in 720p to 1080p on most tvs..You cant..ive seen it in my own home and others..Sure in theory it should blow you away,BUT still...it dont. Will anyone ever be satisfied? I bet not. Im good though. I could not care less for any of it.
According ex Naughty Dog dev, it'll take over 2 generations until Consoles come close to 4k. As for PC, it's expensive right now but I can see it becoming more mainstream in 3-5 years. I'm fine with 1080p.
It depends on the med-range GPU state around year 2018 to 2022.
Year 2015 = R9-390X for 4K(claimed to have R9-295 X2 level). Starts HBM video memory era and decline of GDDR5.
Year 2016 = R9-490X pushes R9-390X to R9-480X. GoFlo switches to 14 nm fab in 2015. R9-490X would have a new HBM design.
Year 2017/2018 = R9-590X pushes R9-390X/R9-480X to R9-570X. It depends on Samsung's 10 nm fab i.e. GoFlo is a partner of Samsung in fab tech.
I must have told you like 3 times already to lay off the bullshit....seriously dude, heed my words and just step away, Mathematics clearly isn't your thing and that's fine. Not everyone completed high school and I'm not gonna judge you for it, so don't get all upset with me. ツ
2k reference resolution is 2048 x 1536 pixels, 1080p is 1920 x 1080, as you can hopefully see, those resolutions aren't the same thing, as you claimed before.
2048 x 1536 = 3145728
1920 x 1080 = 2073600
3145728 / 2073600 = 1.51703703704
Bu bu but 2k isn't 1.5 times 1080p....oh you're right, it's 1.51703703704, which rounded down is 1.5, in case you also don't know how rounding works.
Native 2k is 2048x1080 = 2.2million
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution
2048x1536 is 4:3.. what the hell whacky ass fuckin display still uses 4:3? You in 1990?? lmao gtfo with YOUR bullshit. You must have dug fuckin deep to try to save yourself there.. "2k is 2x 1080p derp"
Average consumer rather watch shit like Tranformers than Mad Max. The premise of this thread is trash.
Mad Max without Mel Gibson isn't worth watching
Fury Road is better than the original 3. Especially Beyond NeverlandDome.
Watch that shit asap.
Just saw it, movie is a Michael Bay Transformers rip-off that doesn't live up to the originals:
Needs more Mel Gibson
uh where is the story
less T&A
lesscool guys drive away from explosions
less feminist BS
More iunno how about Mad Max?
As soon as I saw that the word feminism was linked to this movie case closed no wonder this crummy sequel, standalone, remake whatever is getting rave reviews in Hollywood.
I must have told you like 3 times already to lay off the bullshit....seriously dude, heed my words and just step away, Mathematics clearly isn't your thing and that's fine. Not everyone completed high school and I'm not gonna judge you for it, so don't get all upset with me. ツ
2k reference resolution is 2048 x 1536 pixels, 1080p is 1920 x 1080, as you can hopefully see, those resolutions aren't the same thing, as you claimed before.
2048 x 1536 = 3145728
1920 x 1080 = 2073600
3145728 / 2073600 = 1.51703703704
Bu bu but 2k isn't 1.5 times 1080p....oh you're right, it's 1.51703703704, which rounded down is 1.5, in case you also don't know how rounding works.
Native 2k is 2048x1080 = 2.2million
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution
2048x1536 is 4:3.. what the hell whacky ass fuckin display still uses 4:3? You in 1990?? lmao gtfo with YOUR bullshit. You must have dug fuckin deep to try to save yourself there.. "2k is 2x 1080p derp"
Ah, so we move the goal post to include only 16:9 resolutions now? Also this comes from your own link kiddo: "Occasionally, 1080p (Full HD or FHD) has been included into the 2K resolution definition. However, this appears to be incorrect consumer assumption, rather than official inclusion into the resolution terminology."
See? Your own link proves that you don't know anything about the terminology you use. Only a moron would claim 2k is the same as 1080p and then post a link to a Wikipedia article that proves that claim utterly false. Oh well boys and girls, that's what happens when you rely on Wikipedia without reading the whole article and without actually knowing what the hell you're blabbering about.
#REKT
lmao.. why would you bring up an archaic 4:3 resolution? That's moving the goal post to make yourself not look retarded...And i already said 1080p isnt true 2k, but for all intents they are the same shit
According ex Naughty Dog dev, it'll take over 2 generations until Consoles come close to 4k. As for PC, it's expensive right now but I can see it becoming more mainstream in 3-5 years. I'm fine with 1080p.
It depends on the med-range GPU state around year 2018 to 2022.
Year 2015 = R9-390X for 4K(claimed to have R9-295 X2 level). Starts HBM video memory era and decline of GDDR5.
Year 2016 = R9-490X pushes R9-390X to R9-480X. GoFlo switches to 14 nm fab in 2015. R9-490X would have a new HBM design.
Year 2017/2018 = R9-590X pushes R9-390X/R9-480X to R9-570X. It depends on Samsung's 10 nm fab i.e. GoFlo is a partner of Samsung in fab tech.
Honestly I hope VR tech takes off far more than anything coming to 4k resolution.. It is a linear dead end of constantly sharp resolutions that we are seeing reduced returns on.. When we get to 4k resolution, we will just look for a higher resolutions, with even less returns.. VR at least feels like a real evolution in graphic technology that is far noticeable than having more pixels on the screen.. 4k will happen when it happens, this push for it in thinking it is going to "change everything" is stupid and absurd.. And hell I would state it isn't even the most important thing, fps is.. We have a large portion of the industry pushing for a 30fps standard, to the point that even some pc games are being released hardcapped at 30fps..
Archaic? Just stop talking, you're digging yourself deeper and deeper into the mud.
A few month ago I got a Nexus 9 with that exact resolution, which released last year in November. I guess recently released mobile hardware is "archaic" in your mind. It's also funny that most new tablets use 4:3 and 16:10 resolutions, especially Apple has released a lot of monitors/tablets with that exact screen resolution the last few years.
Also, it's not using the goal post since I was using that resolution even before you bulged into the thread.
And i already said 1080p isnt true 2k, but for all intents they are the same shit
Nope, you said this:
1080p IS 2k lmao
Either way, both assumptions are hilariously wrong. Especially that "Native 2k 2048x1080" statement, because nativity is relative.
"omg 2k = 2x 1080p" - wallOfRetardation
I already corrected myself and said it was 1.5 times, not 2. I'm not sure why you are using outdated information. The harder you try to troll, the harder you fall, boyo. :)
#STAYREKT
The only wrong thing that has been said in this entire exchange is that "2k is 2x 1080p", which was said by you. "In the movie projection industry, Digital Cinema Initiatives is the dominant standard for 2K output". It only differs from 1080p in the aspect ratio. If you are talking about 1080p and 4k the obvious would imply you are talking about monitors and tv's, not 4:3 tablets, where 1080p falls right in line with 2k.
*slap* to all of you who do not bow down before 4k's might :P i will get it as soon as star citizen is out. before that though there is not really any point
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