Arma Devs Denied bail in greece.

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#1 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

More than two months after a couple of developers from Czech studio Bohemia Interactive (ArmA) were arrested over espionage suspicions, the pair has had an appeal against the charges denied.


Bohemia's Ivan Buchta and Martin Pezlar were originally taken in after allegedly capturing video and photos of a military installation in Greece for an upcoming ArmA game.
According to local news sites, and as translated by Eurogamer, Buchta and Pezlar have now been denied bail and will be tried before a court in Greece. They could face up to 20 years in prison.


In the meantime, the families of the pair have spoken out, stating that the conditions they are being subjected to have been abysmal.
They're in a cell with over 25 people, they sleep on the ground," Buchta's father Miloslav stated. "They have food twice a day.


His mother added, "Our boys no longer tell us on the phone that it's alright, that they're handling it. After the court's decision we only hear from them something that no parent ever wants to hear: Mom, dad, please save us."

Greece gonna Greece I guess.

Oh yes, The Greek media are having a field day with this also, They claim the arma devs were spying for Turkey.

#2 Posted by Riadon2 (1609 posts) -

More than two months after a couple of developers from Czech studio Bohemia Interactive (ArmA) were arrested over espionage suspicions, the pair has had an appeal against the charges denied.


Bohemia's Ivan Buchta and Martin Pezlar were originally taken in after allegedly capturing video and photos of a military installation in Greece for an upcoming ArmA game.
According to local news sites, and as translated by Eurogamer, Buchta and Pezlar have now been denied bail and will be tried before a court in Greece. They could face up to 20 years in prison.


In the meantime, the families of the pair have spoken out, stating that the conditions they are being subjected to have been abysmal.
They're in a cell with over 25 people, they sleep on the ground," Buchta's father Miloslav stated. "They have food twice a day.


His mother added, "Our boys no longer tell us on the phone that it's alright, that they're handling it. After the court's decision we only hear from them something that no parent ever wants to hear: Mom, dad, please save us."

Greece gonna Greece I guess.

ReadingRainbow4

That is really messed up.

#3 Posted by lazerface216 (7517 posts) -

whaaaaaat?

#4 Posted by freedomfreak (40902 posts) -
Shame. Greece could use the money.
#5 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

I'm just wondering how bad this is affecting arma 3 development.

regardless this is F*cked up.

#6 Posted by nameless12345 (15125 posts) -

Well, looks like it's more dramatic situation than some believed...

I personally think BIS should try to contact the Czech embassy in Greece and if they can do something regarding their imprisoned colleagues.

Just having protest signs on their site obviously won't do crap...

Also, they should handle all the Arma 3 code and material over to the Greek authorities and promise to destroy all potentially harmful information about Lemnos.

Just what I think.

#8 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
Greece: "Instead of using our money to fix our economy, let's waste it arresting and prosecuting game developers".
#9 Posted by loosingENDS (11826 posts) -

More than two months after a couple of developers from Czech studio Bohemia Interactive (ArmA) were arrested over espionage suspicions, the pair has had an appeal against the charges denied.


Bohemia's Ivan Buchta and Martin Pezlar were originally taken in after allegedly capturing video and photos of a military installation in Greece for an upcoming ArmA game.
According to local news sites, and as translated by Eurogamer, Buchta and Pezlar have now been denied bail and will be tried before a court in Greece. They could face up to 20 years in prison.


In the meantime, the families of the pair have spoken out, stating that the conditions they are being subjected to have been abysmal.
They're in a cell with over 25 people, they sleep on the ground," Buchta's father Miloslav stated. "They have food twice a day.


His mother added, "Our boys no longer tell us on the phone that it's alright, that they're handling it. After the court's decision we only hear from them something that no parent ever wants to hear: Mom, dad, please save us."

Greece gonna Greece I guess.

Oh yes, The Greek media are having a field day with this also, They claim the arma devs were spying for Turkey.

ReadingRainbow4

Well, spies are usually shot, they should be greatfull they are alive. In other countries would have been shot on sight.

You simply DO NOT spy military installations, not ever

Unless you think you are James Bond

#10 Posted by Riadon2 (1609 posts) -

Greece: "Instead of using our money to fix our economy, let's waste it arresting and prosecuting game developers".Zeviander

I'm sure those game developers were armed and extremely dangerous. They definitely deserve life in prison for daring to watch the puny Greek military.

#11 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Greece: "Instead of using our money to fix our economy, let's waste it arresting and prosecuting game developers".Riadon2

I'm sure those game developers were armed and extremely dangerous. They definitely deserve life in prison for daring to watch the puny Greek military.

They are actually trying to argue they were equipped with high end military gear, including night vision goggles. When they were found with cameras. Never take vacation photo's people.
#12 Posted by loosingENDS (11826 posts) -

Greece: "Instead of using our money to fix our economy, let's waste it arresting and prosecuting game developers".Zeviander

Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead.

Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL

Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?

The only reason they could spy on Greece, is because unlike US does not have a death penlty for spies

#13 Posted by Riadon2 (1609 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Greece: "Instead of using our money to fix our economy, let's waste it arresting and prosecuting game developers".loosingENDS

Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead.

Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL

Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?

Lol @ you

I bet you would be up in arms if these developers were from 343.

#14 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Greece: "Instead of using our money to fix our economy, let's waste it arresting and prosecuting game developers".Riadon2

Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead.

Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL

Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?

Lol @ you

I bet you would be up in arms if these developers were from 343.

Peter Molyneux is now on trial for lying about the amount of leaves on tree's.
#15 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead. Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?loosingENDS
Any, competent, military intelligence organization, given this much time, would be able to determine whom these people are. Greece has far more important things to be worrying about right now.
#16 Posted by loosingENDS (11826 posts) -

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Greece: "Instead of using our money to fix our economy, let's waste it arresting and prosecuting game developers".Riadon2

Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead.

Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL

Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?

Lol @ you

I bet you would be up in arms if these developers were from 343.

It is just that some people in these forums are detached from reality.

Why would anyone assume game developers have the right to spy military installations ? In whatever condition or case, or anywhere in the world

Would US allow that ? Why do you think it is something that would only happen to Greece ?

#17 Posted by loosingENDS (11826 posts) -

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead. Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?Zeviander
Any, competent, military intelligence organization, given this much time, would be able to determine whom these people are. Greece has far more important things to be worrying about right now.

Exactly, they cant afford to do background check to every crazy developer that spies on military installations

We agree

#18 Posted by MrYaotubo (2709 posts) -

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead. Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?Zeviander

Any, competent, military intelligence organization, given this much time, would be able to determine whom these people are.

Greece has far more important things to be worrying about right now.

That´s the problem there.

#19 Posted by PinnacleGamingP (5208 posts) -
DIDNT READ LOL
#20 Posted by TheEroica (13695 posts) -

wow this is bad... why do i fet the sense that there is more to this than it seems?

#21 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead. Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?MrYaotubo

Any, competent, military intelligence organization, given this much time, would be able to determine whom these people are.

Greece has far more important things to be worrying about right now.

That´s the problem there.

This is the greek government here, they train fighter pilots by watching top-gun.
#22 Posted by MrYaotubo (2709 posts) -

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]

Any, competent, military intelligence organization, given this much time, would be able to determine whom these people are.

Greece has far more important things to be worrying about right now.ReadingRainbow4

That´s the problem there.

This is the greek government here, they train fighter pilots by watching top-gun.

No wonder they are the embarasment of europe these days

#23 Posted by Riadon2 (1609 posts) -

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead.

Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL

Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?

loosingENDS

Lol @ you

I bet you would be up in arms if these developers were from 343.

It is just that some people in these forums are detached from reality.

Why would anyone assume game developers have the right to spy military installations ? In whatever condition or case, or anywhere in the world

Would US allow that ? Why do you think it is something that would only happen to Greece ?

Go get on an alt, no one is going to take loosingEnds seriously.

#24 Posted by Nanomage (2419 posts) -

wow this is bad... why do i fet the sense that there is more to this than it seems?

TheEroica
The issue is that they´re s worried about saving themselves from the extremely dire situation they´re in that apparently they now treat their "prisioners" like a low tier third world country sadly.
#25 Posted by loosingENDS (11826 posts) -

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

Lol @ you

I bet you would be up in arms if these developers were from 343.

Riadon2

It is just that some people in these forums are detached from reality.

Why would anyone assume game developers have the right to spy military installations ? In whatever condition or case, or anywhere in the world

Would US allow that ? Why do you think it is something that would only happen to Greece ?

Go get on an alt, no one is going to take loosingEnds seriously.

Like noone would take someone that suggests they should be left free after spying seriously

Surly no serious goverment would leave people that have taken 10.000 pics of their military bases free

Maybe allow them to fly an F-16 too and have fun with the tanks ? LOL

How about release all the secrets and base locations as well ? Just in case

#26 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

It is just that some people in these forums are detached from reality.

Why would anyone assume game developers have the right to spy military installations ? In whatever condition or case, or anywhere in the world

Would US allow that ? Why do you think it is something that would only happen to Greece ?

loosingENDS

Go get on an alt, no one is going to take loosingEnds seriously.

Like noone would take someone that suggests they should be left free after spying seriously

Surly no serious goverment would leave people that have taken 10.000 pics of their military bases free

Is that an accurate number?
#27 Posted by loosingENDS (11826 posts) -

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Riadon2"]

Go get on an alt, no one is going to take loosingEnds seriously.

ReadingRainbow4

Like noone would take someone that suggests they should be left free after spying seriously

Surly no serious goverment would leave people that have taken 10.000 pics of their military bases free

Is that an accurate number?

Well, 8GB (8000MB) / 1MB = 8000 pics

If they had 16GB sticks, would be far more than 10.000 pics

It is an average

#28 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Like noone would take someone that suggests they should be left free after spying seriously

Surly no serious goverment would leave people that have taken 10.000 pics of their military bases free

loosingENDS

Is that an accurate number?

Well, 8GB (8000MB) / 1MB = 8000 pics

If they had 16GB sticks, would be far more than 10.000 pics

It is an average

lol
#29 Posted by Goyoshi12 (9687 posts) -

God that's horrible, they're stuck in prison for developing a @#$%ing game and Greece is just going to keep them in jail till time runs out?

They can't see their families, friends, or anyone until their time in prison is up all over a stupid game? Gee, thanks Greece you Grade A ignorant @$$holes.

[spoiler] You know, this makes me wonder as to peoples reactions to the news if it was someone from EA or Activision who got put in jail instead. Wonder how people would take it. [/spoiler]

#30 Posted by SPYDER0416 (16736 posts) -

Wow, Greece must be in a lot of crap about this, and rightfully so.

I mean, these are two videogame developers, on vacation, that didn't even take any pictures of military installations on purpose. They just happened to take a picture with a hangar far off from what I hear, and now they have to live in these crappy conditions.

I do hope the media is giving them a field day.

#31 Posted by loosingENDS (11826 posts) -

God that's horrible, they're stuck in prison for developing a @#$%ing game and Greece is just going to keep them in jail till time runs out?

They can't see their families, friends, or anyone until their time in prison is up all over a stupid game? Gee, thanks Greece you Grade A ignorant @$$holes.

[spoiler] You know, this makes me wonder as to peoples reactions to the news if it was someone from EA or Activision who got put in jail instead. Wonder how people would take it. [/spoiler]

Goyoshi12

Every country in the world would do the same, some would have already killed them in actuality

It is hardly Greece fault these developers were morons

#32 Posted by Riadon2 (1609 posts) -

God that's horrible, they're stuck in prison for developing a @#$%ing game and Greece is just going to keep them in jail till time runs out?

They can't see their families, friends, or anyone until their time in prison is up all over a stupid game? Gee, thanks Greece you Grade A ignorant @$$holes.

[spoiler] You know, this makes me wonder as to peoples reactions to the news if it was someone from EA or Activision who got put in jail instead. Wonder how people would take it. [/spoiler]

Goyoshi12

EA and Activision games are too shallow to require observation of real military practice.

#33 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

God that's horrible, they're stuck in prison for developing a @#$%ing game and Greece is just going to keep them in jail till time runs out?

They can't see their families, friends, or anyone until their time in prison is up all over a stupid game? Gee, thanks Greece you Grade A ignorant @$$holes.

[spoiler] You know, this makes me wonder as to peoples reactions to the news if it was someone from EA or Activision who got put in jail instead. Wonder how people would take it. [/spoiler]

Goyoshi12
If it was Robert Kotick and John Riccitiello it would be a national holiday.
#34 Posted by SPYDER0416 (16736 posts) -

God that's horrible, they're stuck in prison for developing a @#$%ing game and Greece is just going to keep them in jail till time runs out?

They can't see their families, friends, or anyone until their time in prison is up all over a stupid game? Gee, thanks Greece you Grade A ignorant @$$holes.

[spoiler] You know, this makes me wonder as to peoples reactions to the news if it was someone from EA or Activision who got put in jail instead. Wonder how people would take it. [/spoiler]

Goyoshi12

From what I've read, they were 100% on vacation and not doing anything for ARMA when it happened. They weren't even at a military base or trying to take pictures of a military base, they were just snapping pictures and one had a part of a mlitary base in it.

It really is the dumbest thing, especially since Greece is supposedly a democratic and civilized nation and they still seem to be holding on to this crazed belief. They may as well accuse every tourist ever that has ever been near one of their military bases to be spies.

#35 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

God that's horrible, they're stuck in prison for developing a @#$%ing game and Greece is just going to keep them in jail till time runs out?

They can't see their families, friends, or anyone until their time in prison is up all over a stupid game? Gee, thanks Greece you Grade A ignorant @$$holes.

[spoiler] You know, this makes me wonder as to peoples reactions to the news if it was someone from EA or Activision who got put in jail instead. Wonder how people would take it. [/spoiler]

SPYDER0416

From what I've read, they were 100% on vacation and not doing anything for ARMA when it happened. They weren't even at a military base or trying to take pictures of a military base, they were just snapping pictures and one had a part of a mlitary base in it.

It really is the dumbest thing, especially since Greece is supposedly a democratic and civilized nation and they still seem to be holding on to this crazed belief. They may as well accuse every tourist ever that has ever been near one of their military bases to be spies.

It's pretty obvious the greek government is trying to milk this for some compensation. According to LoosingEnds, apparently they took 10,000 pics of military installations. They must have been there all week without stop. Derp Derp.

#36 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

Damn :( Really hope nothing happens to them. It's really silly when you think about it. Greece are a bit of a running joke these days

#37 Posted by GamerwillzPS (8530 posts) -

Bloody hell, that's ridiculous. Big shame on Greece.

#38 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

I hope when this is all over, Arma 3 has a prison break mission that takes place in greece.

#39 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

God that's horrible, they're stuck in prison for developing a @#$%ing game and Greece is just going to keep them in jail till time runs out?

They can't see their families, friends, or anyone until their time in prison is up all over a stupid game? Gee, thanks Greece you Grade A ignorant @$$holes.

[spoiler] You know, this makes me wonder as to peoples reactions to the news if it was someone from EA or Activision who got put in jail instead. Wonder how people would take it. [/spoiler]

loosingENDS

Every country in the world would do the same, some would have already killed them in actuality

It is hardly Greece fault these developers were morons

The Government of Greece are fvcking morons anyway and everyone in the world knows this by now.

They're doing nothing but wasting time and resources on some petty matter.

#40 Posted by SPYDER0416 (16736 posts) -

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

God that's horrible, they're stuck in prison for developing a @#$%ing game and Greece is just going to keep them in jail till time runs out?

They can't see their families, friends, or anyone until their time in prison is up all over a stupid game? Gee, thanks Greece you Grade A ignorant @$$holes.

[spoiler] You know, this makes me wonder as to peoples reactions to the news if it was someone from EA or Activision who got put in jail instead. Wonder how people would take it. [/spoiler]

ReadingRainbow4

From what I've read, they were 100% on vacation and not doing anything for ARMA when it happened. They weren't even at a military base or trying to take pictures of a military base, they were just snapping pictures and one had a part of a mlitary base in it.

It really is the dumbest thing, especially since Greece is supposedly a democratic and civilized nation and they still seem to be holding on to this crazed belief. They may as well accuse every tourist ever that has ever been near one of their military bases to be spies.

It's pretty obvious the greek government is trying to milk this for some compensation. According to LoosingEnds, apparently they took 10,000 pics of military installations. They must have been there all week without stop. Derp Derp.

Yeah as I understand it, Greece is in the hole economy wise and probably has all the free time in the world for this crap. I mean, they'll get out, if they don't Greece won't get anything but scorn and hate from, well, everyone, and it's obviously all false accusations against a couple of tourists.

#41 Posted by DrTrafalgarLaw (4440 posts) -

Don't bother arguing with Loosey, he's a greek. I'm not racist but the greek are distrusting everyone ever since Turkey owned their ass and put them in their place for their bigotry. Just boycott greek products/vacactions or something. Greece has done enough damage to europe, they should arrest their thieving government instead of arma devs. Also lol @ them accusing the devs of spying, their military isn't worth spying on.

#42 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -

Don't bother arguing with Loosey, he's a greek. I'm not racist but the greek are distrusting everyone ever since Turkey owned their ass and put them in their place for their bigotry. Just boycott greek products/vacactions or something. Greece has done enough damage to europe, they should arrest their thieving government instead of arma devs. Also lol @ them accusing the devs of spying, their military isn't worth spying on.

DrTrafalgarLaw
Lol. I love greek food, and I don't think I could ever give up Feta. Luckily there are lots of alternatives made here.
#43 Posted by GunSmith1_basic (9818 posts) -

Wow, Greece must be in a lot of crap about this, and rightfully so.

I mean, these are two videogame developers, on vacation, that didn't even take any pictures of military installations on purpose. They just happened to take a picture with a hangar far off from what I hear, and now they have to live in these crappy conditions.

I do hope the media is giving them a field day.

SPYDER0416
from what i heard they were creating a 3d rendering of the facility. What I don't get about that angle is how exactly that could happen. Anyone can see the basic layout from Google Earth. Are they claiming that these Arma guys got inside the facility and took all those photos? Was this all just from the outside? If it's about photos on the inside, wouldn't that mean they allowed them inside?
#44 Posted by delta3074 (18410 posts) -

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

More than two months after a couple of developers from Czech studio Bohemia Interactive (ArmA) were arrested over espionage suspicions, the pair has had an appeal against the charges denied.


Bohemia's Ivan Buchta and Martin Pezlar were originally taken in after allegedly capturing video and photos of a military installation in Greece for an upcoming ArmA game.
According to local news sites, and as translated by Eurogamer, Buchta and Pezlar have now been denied bail and will be tried before a court in Greece. They could face up to 20 years in prison.


In the meantime, the families of the pair have spoken out, stating that the conditions they are being subjected to have been abysmal.
They're in a cell with over 25 people, they sleep on the ground," Buchta's father Miloslav stated. "They have food twice a day.


His mother added, "Our boys no longer tell us on the phone that it's alright, that they're handling it. After the court's decision we only hear from them something that no parent ever wants to hear: Mom, dad, please save us."

Greece gonna Greece I guess.

Oh yes, The Greek media are having a field day with this also, They claim the arma devs were spying for Turkey.

loosingENDS

Well, spies are usually shot, they should be greatfull they are alive. In other countries would have been shot on sight.

You simply DO NOT spy military installations, not ever

Unless you think you are James Bond

Only in this day and age, everyones Paranoid, When i was in the forces we went to a camp in penhale and you had to let the public walk through the base becaus it had a public right of way running through the middle of it, people used to take pictures all the time and we just treated it as normal
#45 Posted by jonathant5 (873 posts) -
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead. Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?Zeviander
Any, competent, military intelligence organization, given this much time, would be able to determine whom these people are. Greece has far more important things to be worrying about right now.

Yeah any competent organization would have determined that those two individuals are innocent. But, as we have seen in the last 4 years, the Greek government, and the Greek people of this generation are anything but competent. They dont pay taxes, the government is ineffective and it's politician's are idiots, the people themselves are lazy and get paid for doing no work. For example, during elections, the government had hired people to work for them (but really just giving them a handout because there was no work to be done) just to get votes. Thats how Greek's managed to get into so much debt and force those in EU to pay for their lazy ***es. On another note, in terms of taxes, there were fewer people (in one region) who paid taxes for an income of 50k or larger than there are people who own Porsche's in that region. Oh and loosingEnds, get a job bud, stop making the German's pay for your mistakes.
#46 Posted by PCgameruk (1425 posts) -

Truth is they are Console fanboys that don't understand what a real FPS game is. They are holding them hostage with auto aim and hitbox. And the devs can't see if the guns are real or not because of the sub HD and jaggies.

Cool-Pictures1.jpg

#47 Posted by LP4EVA2005 (8585 posts) -
"they could face 20 years" wow, poor guys
#48 Posted by DrTrafalgarLaw (4440 posts) -

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

From what I've read, they were 100% on vacation and not doing anything for ARMA when it happened. They weren't even at a military base or trying to take pictures of a military base, they were just snapping pictures and one had a part of a mlitary base in it.

It really is the dumbest thing, especially since Greece is supposedly a democratic and civilized nation and they still seem to be holding on to this crazed belief. They may as well accuse every tourist ever that has ever been near one of their military bases to be spies.

SPYDER0416

It's pretty obvious the greek government is trying to milk this for some compensation. According to LoosingEnds, apparently they took 10,000 pics of military installations. They must have been there all Week without stop. Derp Derp.

Yeah as I understand it, Greece is in the hole economy wise and probably has all the free time in the world for this crap. I mean, they'll get out, if they don't Greece won't get anything but scorn and hate from, well, everyone, and it's obviously all false accusations against a couple of tourists.

When you've fallen as low as the greek goverment, nothing suprises me anymore. They're probably waiting for an appeal so they can inflate the bail-prices in order finance their scumbaggery.
#49 Posted by DrTrafalgarLaw (4440 posts) -
[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

Don't bother arguing with Loosey, he's a greek. I'm not racist but the greek are distrusting everyone ever since Turkey owned their ass and put them in their place for their bigotry. Just boycott greek products/vacactions or something. Greece has done enough damage to europe, they should arrest their thieving government instead of arma devs. Also lol @ them accusing the devs of spying, their military isn't worth spying on.

ReadingRainbow4
Lol. I love greek food, and I don't think I could ever give up Feta. Luckily there are lots of alternatives made here.

Lol feta, another thing they stole from turkey and called it their own. Just buy turkish white cheese, same stuff...better taste.
#50 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (14431 posts) -
[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]Sure, because if they were cought in US spying military installations they would be served coffe and cookies and would be given free drinks for a year instead. Just because they happen to be game developers. LOL Sorry, does not work that way, when you catch someone spying, you have to assume he is a spy, otherwise why even bother guarding your military installations ?jonathant5
Any, competent, military intelligence organization, given this much time, would be able to determine whom these people are. Greece has far more important things to be worrying about right now.

Yeah any competent organization would have determined that those two individuals are innocent. But, as we have seen in the last 4 years, the Greek government, and the Greek people of this generation are anything but competent. They dont pay taxes, the government is ineffective and it's politician's are idiots, the people themselves are lazy and get paid for doing no work. For example, during elections, the government had hired people to work for them (but really just giving them a handout because there was no work to be done) just to get votes. Thats how Greek's managed to get into so much debt and force those in EU to pay for their lazy ***es. On another note, in terms of taxes, there were fewer people (in one region) who paid taxes for an income of 50k or larger than there are people who own Porsche's in that region. Oh and loosingEnds, get a job bud, stop making the German's pay for your mistakes.

Agreed the wedge between the rich and poor is absolutely ridiculous in Greece.