Are Gamespot editors following Mchshea's steps?

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#1 Posted by SwagSurf (3013 posts) -

Pretty simple question for SW posters here. X1, PS4, and other console lineups shouldn't constantly get flops especially from reading other reviews. Do you think Mchshea is a tool or a great leader to the minions?

#2 Edited by jun_aka_pekto (15734 posts) -

I don't think in terms of flops. Usually, anything 7/10 or better is good enough for me to play. Anything lower and I'd have to read what drove the score down. If what drove the score down isn't something I care about, then I'd probably buy the game anyway.

An 8/10 is a must-buy to me.

Flops are what fanboys do unto themselves.

Obviously, I go to the whole review before making a decision to buy the game. That or look for a demo if available.

#3 Posted by Heil68 (42583 posts) -

Getting rid of the .5 increments has its effects.

#4 Posted by HadOne2Many (1166 posts) -

I bet the McShea reviews were getting more hits than the rest of the site's content combined. Yes I do think his work had an effect on the direction the site has been going lately. They'll do anything for the clicks.

#5 Posted by SwagSurf (3013 posts) -

It makes sense if it's for the sake of the views, but these editors are losing credibility as well..

#6 Posted by lostrib (31476 posts) -

aren't they pretty well in line with the metacritic scores?

#7 Posted by glez13 (8498 posts) -

@lostrib said:

aren't they pretty well in line with the metacritic scores?

This. People just whining because their hyped game didn't got the score they wanted.

#8 Posted by Pray_to_me (2735 posts) -

Tom MsShill's reviews are trash. He underrated GOTG TLOU to troll for hits and overrated the shit out of that garbage beyond two souls. Plus his lisp is really annoying. If Mike Tyson was white and dying from a degenerative disease he would be Tom MsShill.

#9 Posted by GTSaiyanjin2 (5680 posts) -

I think 8's are the new nines.... and 9's are the new 9.5. I'll be honest I dont care about reviews anymore, if a game looks decent you can usually tell, by watching a good gameplay video of the game. I'll give an example, I didnt need any one to tell me, that Burnout 3 was going to be an amazing game. Just by watching the previews, and looking at screenshots, I knew the game was going to be amazing. Gamespot may as well be using a 5 point scale IMO, I mean whats the difference between a 4, and a 5.Going by their own definition, its poor, and mediocre.

#10 Posted by Ackad (3125 posts) -

@glez13 said:

@lostrib said:

aren't they pretty well in line with the metacritic scores?

This. People just whining because their hyped game didn't got the score they wanted.

Might want to re-read the first post, he's counting all console lineups.

As for Op, Gamespot has been duping their reviews well before the new generation launch titles.

#11 Posted by GunSmith1_basic (9719 posts) -

McShea only brought truth. If other editors follow suit instead of being intimidated by hype and production values, then this can only be a good thing.

#12 Posted by bobbetybob (19086 posts) -

Nah this always happens with launch games, people expect the world and instead get (mostly) generic games not dissimilar to previous generations.

#13 Posted by lamprey263 (22419 posts) -

maybe they're just trying to avoid the appearance of favoritism

#14 Posted by navyguy21 (12686 posts) -

It probably has more to do with the lack of .5 increments. Most of the launch titles on both sides were most likely rounded down.

#15 Posted by Ackad (3125 posts) -

It probably has more to do with the lack of .5 increments. Most of the launch titles on both sides were most likely rounded down.

Most likely. Did you get a PS4 Navy?

#16 Posted by doubalfa (6806 posts) -

I don't see a problem with getting rid of the .5 increments, a number in a review still is a matter of perspective, what does a 7.8 mean? the games is better than a seven but a bit less than an eight? based on what?

#17 Posted by guard12 (1657 posts) -

Lol review scores. Its all about what is written about the game. Not the final score.

#18 Posted by handssss (1623 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

Getting rid of the .5 increments has its effects.

Either that, or the reviewers are just having unrealistic expectations for the new gen's launch games this time around. Something definitely seems different because games like PDZ and Resistance 1 probably would have been both 6s or less on this site had they came out now.

#19 Posted by princeofshapeir (13600 posts) -

I am amazed people actually thought the launch titles for PS4 and XB1 were going to earn mostly 8s and 9s.

#20 Posted by navyguy21 (12686 posts) -

@Ackad said:

@navyguy21 said:

It probably has more to do with the lack of .5 increments. Most of the launch titles on both sides were most likely rounded down.

Most likely. Did you get a PS4 Navy?

No, i preordered the Watch Dogs bundle but it was delayed so I think im going to wait until spring........if i can lol.

Add to that the fact that the launch PS4s are having issues, it kind of worked out for me.

#21 Posted by Zoso813 (310 posts) -

The last good launch title I recall is the original Halo. People place way too much importance on launch exclusives. The best games are multiplat anyways. (NFS, AC4, BF4).

#22 Edited by CloudStrife213 (423 posts) -

Flops only happen when people hype the game up or expect it to be amazingly amazing. Just like with Killzone: Shadow Fall and Knack.

#23 Posted by Nengo_Flow (9261 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

Getting rid of the .5 increments has its effects.

still dont get why they got rid of it.

#24 Posted by Krelian-co (9983 posts) -

they can follow jesus for all i care, gamespot is already a joke in everything gaming related, before anyone asks, yes im here for the forums.

#25 Posted by Animal-Mother (26197 posts) -

Gamespots quality has increasingly declined over the years. They are a joke as a media source for games. I was here during the tail end of the golden years. Early 06-07. Now their redesign has also caused a major migration in users.

#26 Posted by Ackad (3125 posts) -

@navyguy21: Smart move. Console launches usually have hiccups so you made the right choice.

#27 Posted by Ackad (3125 posts) -

Gamespots quality has increasingly declined over the years. They are a joke as a media source for games. I was here during the tail end of the golden years. Early 06-07. Now their redesign has also caused a major migration in users.


I'd say from 05-08 were the golden years, then everything started going downhill from there. Damn I miss those amazing years here..

#28 Posted by GunSmith1_basic (9719 posts) -

@Ackad said:
@Animal-Mother said:

Gamespots quality has increasingly declined over the years. They are a joke as a media source for games. I was here during the tail end of the golden years. Early 06-07. Now their redesign has also caused a major migration in users.

I'd say from 05-08 were the golden years, then everything started going downhill from there. Damn I miss those amazing years here..

What made those years great was the permissiveness in posting, which GS is trying to get back. The real problem came a few years ago when they cracked down on all trolling and negativity. There were many hilarious users who were banned. Understandable, but regrettable. This is an entertainment site after all.

All the modern changes are for the better imo. If you think that the McShea hate is extreme now it is nothing compared to what came before with the reviewers we had then. Claimage ownage over a 0.01 difference in score meant it was easier to make enemies. I remember when a 9.0 was considered a flop for many games since the AAA games were fighting over the 9.5-9.9 range. So GS is using the whole scale now... this is good.

I don't see the problem with the re design. It wasn't the first. At least now it is mobile-friendly. This is overdue imo.

#29 Posted by Bruin1986 (1174 posts) -

they can follow jesus for all i care, gamespot is already a joke in everything gaming related, before anyone asks, yes im here for the forums.

What website is not "a joke in everything gaming related"?

I'm sincerely curious what is now considered the pseudo-intellectual, non "sell out", reasonable and upstanding gaming website...

#30 Posted by Jag85 (4230 posts) -

Using the full 10-point scale can only be a good thing...

#31 Edited by BeardMaster (1580 posts) -

all reviewers are bias to one and done movie games, they dont have time to replay games, they want a singular 6-8 hour experience.

thats why games these days have no replayability or gameplay to speak of. Its all about the 6 hour linear sequences with intense set pieces,

#32 Posted by hotdiddykong (2047 posts) -

Im liking the fact that Gamespot has been entirely strict, only games that truly deserve it are getting 9's

Sometimes it gets iffy, like Carolyn being the wrong person to review Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon and Tom reviewing Last of Us, but even then they are their own opinions of the matter

#33 Edited by withe1982 (450 posts) -

I get the impression that many Gamespot editors/reviewers are hipsters. They just love giving out contradictory scores just to make sure they are viewed outside of mainstream thinking . You tend to get these types in all media. Music journalists and film critics who wax lyrical about a film/album everyone else hates and declare them cult hits and rubbish the popular choices.

TLOU review was a prime example of that. Tom even admits so in his bio. Stating that he loves all the things you hate and vice versa. A hipster in the sea of hipsters. A few reviewers just seem to miss the point of some games. They are just so out of touch with the gamer that their reviews stand out like a sore thumb. Look at Tom's Bioshock Infinite review. Pure and utter drivel.

#34 Posted by groowagon (2739 posts) -

i personally like that gamespot is using the actual 1-10 scale, and not just rating everything 7-10 like other sites.

#35 Posted by sukraj (21604 posts) -

IGN gave dead rising 3 an 8 so that means the game is worth playing.

#36 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8144 posts) -

Actually all major publications bar Gamespot, CVG and Eurogamer gave Dead Rising 8 or higher.

#37 Posted by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

I certainly hope so.

He bombed Infinite and loved Beyond 2 Souls.
Dude's my hero.

#38 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8144 posts) -

By the way XCOM Bureau scored 6.5 here on GS yet I enjoyed it, though the game irritated me at times but not for the reasons found in the review.

#39 Posted by freedomfreak (38152 posts) -
@Heil68 said:

Getting rid of the .5 increments has its effects.

Definitely.


#40 Posted by adders99 (2564 posts) -

not every game deserves a 9 or 10....