Are consoles becoming a big ripoff?

So I just realized that in order to access 1/2 part of a game you already paid for, you have to pay another 60$per year. I don't understand how this kind of business model is even successful. I guess it's easy to fool consumers now days.

And on top of that you can build a much powerful PC for a cheaper price in the long run.

Why are consoles even relevant anymore?

because no one wants to hook up a fugly ass tower to their TV. Shit most people don't even want a fugly ass tower at all. Why do you think valve is making maneuvers to make their own bootleg console?

...yeah, this will go well

Another PC is superior to consoles so why game on consoles thread? Oh joy!

Live and PSN provide more than just the ability to play the online multiplayer portion of a given game

lol htpc

Advertisements?

But that doesn't justify the fact that they're forced.

Its the same with every offered service - if people can justify the price they will pay it.

They gotta pay for all those servers some how

So basically some PC gamers wonder why console manufacturers charge for some online features while at the same time claiming that console games cost too much and that console online features aren't robust enough...

Run-on sentence aside, let's say that consoles improved the online services to near PC levels while dropping console games $10 to PC levels and simultaneously doing away with charging for PSN and XBL.

That sounds like a better business strategy to you? You think we have a lot of ads now?

I really don't care what is the best business strategy for the console manufactures. They will do whatever possible to generate as much money as they can. I am just wondering why consumers buy these systems when they are given a better option.

^ what the ****

It was happening a lot earlier. Account suicide or someone is throwing a tantrum

what the fuk^

lol ikr, plus if its so ugly than hide it or don't get it. Peasants gonna be peasants, jk.

Like?

The games. :/

So you're saying it's worth spending over 500$ for a console just for a couple of games or more?

It's more than a couple, I can't remember buying a console where the exclusives alone weren't worth the price of admission by the end of that gen.

Because this is America. People dont give 2 flying shits about what is good or a value....

They just want convenient.

#fact

If it wasn't because of sony and nintendos awesome exclusives, ill get all my games on pc only

Well it is kind of inconvenient to wait years for emulators to finally be able to play my favorite games at an acceptable level.

Because it cost money to maintain the servers up... the constant complaint about Sony's horrible servers for the PS3 and the slow ass downloads for things + the success of the Xbox live got them to the Pay for service motto. Is either pay 60 dollars a year or watch a shit ton of adds for everything.

It really does irk the pc crowd that consoles are off to record breaking start this gen. Once again, they will be getting the most game of the year exclusives, while the pc boys have to settle for last place again, and begging for ports of console games.

And if you are successful, like myself, you don't need to constantly resort to sales to purchase your games, and paying for online makes no difference either.

@Pray_to_me: Did you just say Steam Machines are consoles? I promise you my NZXT H440 is 10x more visiually striking than your PS4/VCR

@xboxdone74: "And if you are successful, like myself, you don't need to constantly resort to sales to purchase your games, and paying for online makes no difference either."

This again? Oh my god I can't tell if you're a kid or not. What kind of adult refers to themselves as "successful"? And 10 bucks says you're not because anyone with money and common sense gets a PC. If you really want to do this, why don't we compare what we do?

Also, ya consoles are having record braking sales but they should be, since the game market is growing. Would you should do, however, is look at Steam and PC part stats. That growth blows consoles away

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@R3FURBISHED: "if people can justify the price they will pay for it".

More like "if people are forced to pay for something, they will try to justify the price so they don't feel scammed."

Why consoles are a rip off

• can not customize or upgrade. You will end up chugging along at 12 fps at sub HD by the gens end.
• inferior online, yet you have to pay monthly for it. few dedicated servers, no mods, no competative factor, terrible all around.
• less good+ games than PC, which are also more expensive yet shorter (2-3 hour movie games)
• longer install times than PC, long patch cycles, no bug fixing, disc scratching, rrod, etc
• less control types per games
• less genres
• worst version of multiplats which are for some reason more expensive.

Truly one of lifes biggest rip offs. It should be illegal.

Your insecurity is showing again

They're garbage. Hopefully Valve and their Steamboxes show everyone the advantages of open standard hardware, and not having to run 2013 era mid-range hardware for 10 years straight.

Dude....really? I've seen you say repeat that same phrase about how "successful" you are at least 4 times now. No "real" successful adult needs that much validation. Personally, I never hate on anyone's success, but judging by your post history, you're clearly nothing more than a petty troll. Thanks for the laughs though. You're dangerously starting to sound a lot like uninspiredcup.

Successful at getting owned at forums? Yup, you're pretty good at that task, must say.

I think consoles are inferior to pc when it comes to online games... But those playstation exclusives though...

Ah yes, all those P2P servers need to be paid for somehow.

What are some of the games that have this problem?

PS Plus is $50 a year and often times you can get it cheaper that that. They also give you games. Why do PC people bitch about that when many spend a crap load of money on hardware and keeping it up to date. Boggles my mind.. Not to mention that PC introduced subscription based model i.e. World of Warcraft

Games. Friends.

Not the fact that there are people that don't care about better performing multiplats, mods, and the other positives about PC gaming. It's something some of you have yet to realize.

I don't know which company(ies) you are referring to, but my guess is that there are a lot of mindless consumers who make that kind of business model successful. You can't really blame the company. They are just out there to make money. Blame the consumers who advocate such practices by purchasing such products.

No they all just care about resolution and ROPs, apparently.

I don't know...I'd wager most if not all console owners have a PC....but all or most PC owners don't have a console. Seems the peasant is the opposite what you espouse.

Aaand we come to the root of the problem - World of Warcraft.

Cheers WoW, first you take my friends never to be seen again, then you make subscriptions in gaming the norm... :P

I don't think you have clue one why people choose a game console.

Another hermit whining about consoles being on top of gaming. Just enjoy your rig and don't worry about how the rest of us play our games.

@lostrib: my success is showing, my son. While relying on sales, shows your failure. B-)

Another one of those threads...

I'm assuming you're talking about Xbox Live and Playstation Plus. My Wii U doesn't require a yearly subscription to play online. Yes, it's still a console regardless of anyone's interpretation of what a "real" console is. You get some benefits from Xbox Live and Playstation Plus, such as free games.

The thing I don't get about Valve is why do they wana make a console ?

Wouldn't it be way more revolutionary if the worked on Remote Access ? Imagine being able to use your PC through your Television. You could then get a controller and have the console experience on on your PC through your TV.

I'm sure theres already hard ware that allows you to stream whatever is on your pc screen to your TV... All they have to do is add some form of long distance control, not just for gaming but booting and shutting down and other features like that.

well I could build a pretty good looking micro ATX powerful machine right now if I wanted to and stick it under my tv.. for around $500 bucks..

Consoles are just convenient. If people did some research and simply built a gaming machine themselves they could easily out do these consoles.