I mean just look at this.
http://i.imgur.com/gEvd3p1.jpg
Where's the "graphical leap" like ps2 to ps3?
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I mean just look at this.
http://i.imgur.com/gEvd3p1.jpg
Where's the "graphical leap" like ps2 to ps3?
I like consoles......I still play old games where the graphics aren't as good as today. It's about the game play, atmosphere, and story. Games are fun. Period.
Dude. Microsoft hasn't made a dime off of the Xbox brand yet. Think about that. a decade and two systems and the Xbox brand is STILL in the red.
These companies are realizing mighty quick that they can't afford to put out bleeding edge systems anymore, and that average Joe Schmoe console gamer don't give a crap anyhow.
If immersive graphics and performance, if cutting edge technology are an essential part of what you consider to be a good gamign experience, then going to consoles is doing it wrong.
PC is where technology and innovation meet.
Consoles are for the cookie cutter, plug and play experience. It's going around the corner to Mcdonalds vs hopping on a plane to Australia for the Sydney food and wine festival.
If you're a PC gamer, the next gen consoles offer almost nothing you haven't seen already, so not much of a reason to be impressed.
But if I were a console gamer, I'd be pretty happy with the technical advances... still I'd wait it out, and wouldn't buy either of them on launch, due to lackluster launch line-ups.
If you're a PC gamer, the next gen consoles offer almost nothing you haven't seen already, so not much of a reason to be impressed.
But if I were a console gamer, I'd be pretty happy with the technical advances... still I'd wait it out, and wouldn't buy either of them on launch, due to lackluster launch line-ups.
Took all of the words out of my mouth
As a PC gamer I really don't feel the need to jump right in. The games are extremely lacking so far and any of the ones that are interesting I can get for PC. As said above too if you've played on PC for any length of time the upgrade in visuals isn't all that amazing but it's nice to see them get a nice bump from last gen
Dude. Microsoft hasn't made a dime off of the Xbox brand yet. Think about that. a decade and two systems and the Xbox brand is STILL in the red.
These companies are realizing mighty quick that they can't afford to put out bleeding edge systems anymore, and that average Joe Schmoe console gamer don't give a crap anyhow.
If immersive graphics and performance, if cutting edge technology are an essential part of what you consider to be a good gamign experience, then going to consoles is doing it wrong.
PC is where technology and innovation meet.
Consoles are for the cookie cutter, plug and play experience. It's going around the corner to Mcdonalds vs hopping on a plane to Australia for the Sydney food and wine festival.
Yet no PC games look better then Killzone: SF....lol. Man, ill take a big mac for $6 rather then that austrailian crap.
No. Not in the least bit with any console. There's been no "must-have" game on any of the 3 platforms. The launch lineups for XB1 and PS4 aren't very impressive and the Wii U has not given me the first party gem I need to justify my purchase.
I'm not impressed. At the start of previous gens, consoles always used to beat high end PCs for less than half the money. This isn't the case with this generation though. Nothing I've seen beats Crysis 3, Metro Last Light or GRID 2 or some other amazing looking PC games.
Games like Battlefield 4 and AC4 look better on PC than they do on next gen consoles...
People keep bashing the WiiU because it's supposedly not 'next gen' but atm thats the most interesting console to me, as it has some great exclusives by now and some great looking upcoming games.
I am not because their entire premise is based around a bigger and better hardware when that is not what this last gen desperately needed.. When the PS3 and 360 was released games at launch and soon after they had games that were not tired sequels or genres with minimal change.. That and the fact that there is no backwards compatibility, pisses me off.. With people saying "it isn't important", yet we have companies who are releasing digital versions "remastered "(lazy ports) constantly of older gen game in which would not be necessary if it were backwards compatible.. What perfectly sums up my feelings with the current state of gaming is I spent more time playing Terraria and FTL, games developed by a few people at a budget price, then the majority of big budget games out there.. These games felt like they hard far more content to explore then anything coming to these games.. But what do I know because it seems like people keep lapping this sh!t up.
For me Ryse is the only truly impressive game so far. I don't like racers like Forza so that is out for me even if it does look stunning. We will see what the final games look and play like though.
What I am truly dissappointed in is that each console is not complete yet and you need all kinds of updates for them to function out the box.
Very good start.
It's amazing how fast people forgot that until one year ago, the expectations for next gen were consoles with 2GB RAM, 3 or 4 times faster than 360 and PS3 and all about motion controls. Instead we got two consoles up to 16x more powerful (the same gap from previous generations) and focused on core gamers.
Haters gonna hate, i guess.
Dude. Microsoft hasn't made a dime off of the Xbox brand yet. Think about that. a decade and two systems and the Xbox brand is STILL in the red.
These companies are realizing mighty quick that they can't afford to put out bleeding edge systems anymore, and that average Joe Schmoe console gamer don't give a crap anyhow.
If immersive graphics and performance, if cutting edge technology are an essential part of what you consider to be a good gamign experience, then going to consoles is doing it wrong.
PC is where technology and innovation meet.
Consoles are for the cookie cutter, plug and play experience. It's going around the corner to Mcdonalds vs hopping on a plane to Australia for the Sydney food and wine festival.
Yet no PC games look better then Killzone: SF....lol. Man, ill take a big mac for $6 rather then that austrailian crap.
Lol, here is Joe Schmoe consoel gamer in all his glory.
Don't get too close to the cage though, he bites! Specially since he's so butthurt about the next gen console performance.
Also don't feed him after midnight! He farts like a maniac if you do!
Im not but i tell myself KZ will be impressive looking so pretty much all relies on that game. If KZ is a blurry jaggies mess with poor textures... there's no hope.
If you're a PC gamer, the next gen consoles offer almost nothing you haven't seen already, so not much of a reason to be impressed.
But if I were a console gamer, I'd be pretty happy with the technical advances... still I'd wait it out, and wouldn't buy either of them on launch, due to lackluster launch line-ups.
Pretty much this. Killzone was looking nice, but then I saw actual 1080p screens of it, and well...it looks pretty shitty with horrible anti-aliasing. I'd honestly say the new Batman looks considerably better on PC than Killzone SF. But overall, I am just not impressed, and that's very likely due to the fact that I've been playing high quality PC games for the last few years.
As a PC gamer, no I am not impressed, but that doesn't mean I won't be buying the PS4. Unless Sony drops the ball and doesn't have enough good "exclusive" games for me, I will be getting the PS4 Christmas of 2014.
was impressed by the N64, dreamcast, the PS2, and the original Xbox. the others have been disappointing with their game quality improvements. they may have some awesome games you can only play on their respective system but the quality has not improved much over the last generations.
WiiU looks like ass
Xbox one and PS4 look great, they have the features that look to be mattering in the future. That is online and multimedia features. You can laugh at a console not focusing on games, but I doubt anyone laughs at iPhones now for not being only phones.
The Xbox one looks like it will have apps, snap features, great cloud online... so that right now looks more interesting to me. I certainly will be interested to see what Sony brings over the next 6-7 years. I can see phones becoming dumb devices that just connect to a server and stream everything, especially when wifi, lifi, 4G and whatever other wireless technologies become widespread. Will be interesting to see how they both react to this over coming years, will the Xbox become a windows machine using cloud? who knows.
Longevity won;t come from the hardware, they are both outdated. It will come from their software and features, so that is what I am interested in.
People said there was one graphical leap between ps2 and ps3. Now people are saying the same all over again. Just sit and wait. Any graphical leap not made apparent to you now will only get better as the life of these consoles go on. Compare launch titles from 05-06 to titles now. It's night and day.
Not particularly impressed. It's definitely not going to be the leap from the previous gen to current gen. Still, games will get better looking as the years go by.
From a hardware point of view I'm very underwhelmed by both consoles. I know console only gamers and deluded fanboys honestly believe what we are seeing is a massive leap in terms of graphics but it just isn't. Any PC gamer will tell you that. The fact some games still can't manage 1080p and 60fps on either console speaks volumes. As for the games themselves it's just more of the same old stuff, just better looking. This however isn't a console problem but the industry in general. The only thing that remotely excites me is finally consoles get some good MMO's. I like MMO's, along with Strategy and RPG's. I just hope cross platform play as in FF14 is the norm.
Anyway, I will buy both consoles eventually but I've decided to upgrade my PC for now as I see no reason at all to own either next gen console. Yet.
I dont care for the weaker, more expensive, xbl fee riddled, kinect spy cam tacked on xbone
Plus with the way Microsoft tried to take away gamers rights, im NEVER trusting Microsoft again. Never getting an xbone.
I however am all over the PS4!
Cant wait for my PS4! Just about 18 days to go baby!
The PS4 is truly looking like something special! Its the gamers console - made by gamers for gamers! 100$ cheaper then xbone, yet 50% more powerful then xbone. Sony has been hitting on all the right notes and continues to! PS4 is a juggernaut!
Dare might I say the PS4 even has PS2 vibes of popularity in the air. PS4 is gonna be huge!
Also, Killzone ShadowFall LOOKS miles better then anything on the xbone SO If you arent pleased with the graphics of early PS4 games, then you should be even more disappointed with the xbone's much weaker graphic capabilities and the fact NO XBONE game comes close to touching Killzone in graphics or will ever touch the PS4's best etc
Let me remind you there were NO PS3 launch titles even coming close to being as impressive a leap over PS2 games as Killzone ShadowFall is over PS3 games. GTFO with your revisionist history.
Killzone ShadowFall is a good sized leap over the previous gen, and the thing is its just a PS4 launch title! Remember that! PS4 exclusives will continue to look better etc. More greatness awaits with the PS4!
All you did was say next gen is disappointing, while only using PS4 as your example, and even the example you use is ridiculous
Yeah, whats going on here is obvious.
So sick of these stealth trolling threads from obvious xbot shills trying to bring down the PS4 to the disappointment levels that is the xbone. Stop LUMPING them together! PS4 clearly beats out the Xbone in every respect
And stop with all the shills Microsoft, you sleazy company. It will never work.
I see the PC being brought up
I dont have over 1,500$ to spend on a PC with comparable specs to a PS4. Price for power PS4 cant be beat. I also refuse to miss out on Playstation exclusives!
Its like this, why game on a PC this gen when you can buy a much cheaper PS4 that will likely get most of the PC exclusives and indies anyway (given how PS4 already has a lot of em at launch) plus will get exclusives the PC or xbone will never ever get etc
Im all over the PS4! Its the best option out there for gamers
As with all transitions to newer tech it will take a while for developers to utilise the full power of next gen.
Games developed late on in a consoles lifespan are generally using close to 100% of it's capabilities so are almost obtaining parity with next gen, which at launch is only using about 60% of the new consoles power.
I know the leap from PS2 to PS3 seemed greater but if you look at PS2 games developed right at the end of it's lifespan then they can easily hold up to early PS3 games.
Its not that I'm not impressed, but it isn't graphics anymore. I got to a level with ps3/360 where graphics look great. Yes they will look more life like, crisper, whatever, but so what? At the age of 40 I get it. Tech advances. I accept and expect an upgrade. But the features and multi uses are what is impressing me now. Playing my sega master system years ago, I never dreamed I'd be able to pause a game, video call my brother, check in on a hockey game, and pick back up gaming where I left off. And tracking my fantasy football stats while I watch games. Graphics are nice but they're low on my list at this point. The X1 impresses me because I want an entertainment hub now.
If you looked at some of the launch games for the 360 or PS3 from good developers, you'd be more impressed. Graphics will basically double over the lifetime of the consoles. Don't ask me what graphics doubling means cause it really doesn't make sense, but you get my drift.
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When I read your OP it translates to:
"xbox 1 does not excite me because it is trounced in every area by PS4 and because I am an xbox fanboy I will simply say that both consoles are bad to save face."
If not being able to brag about your favorite console being the best has such an effect on you then should stop gaming and not blame the "console(s)" because you aren't much of a gamer.
Exactly this ^ and I have been noticing the same thing going on from a lot of xboners lately too
There is even a thread right now on neogaf titled "Did Sony and Microsoft both under power their next gen consoles"
Its from an obvious Microsoft shill using the same damn troll angle
Goes something like this:
"Xbone is under-powered, therefore im going to try to bring down the PS4 with it and simply just say both are under-powered"
So sick of the slimey bullshit tactics like that, that Microsoft shills love to use.
For example they will try to lump the xbone in with the PS4's success "bu bu both are selling well" even though the PS4 is SIGNIFICANTLY out selling the xbone be evey metric
And when it involves Microsoft fucking up or the xbone being shit, it becomes "buu bu buu Sony too...both are this.....both are under-powered etc"
Its all the same variations of the phoney pathetic "Sony too" Microsoft shill arguments.
Its so transparent. Do Microsoft shills really believe that no one else can see through their bullshit. Just ridiculous
So getting back to it,
The PS4 is NOT under-powered like the xbone is so STOP trying to lump them together xbot shills. We can see right through that BS.
The PS4 is more then 50% more powerful then the xbone is. Those are the facts.
Whats amazing is the PS4 doesnt cost you more for that extra power advantage. You pay 100$ less for a PS4 and still get more then 50% more power. Thats bananas. PS4 is significantly cheaper and significantly more powerful. So there is no rational way any one can say its "under-powered" like the xbone is
Power per dollar the PS4 cant be touched. The PS4 offers amazing specs and value for the price its at. The PS4 is anything but under-powered...PS4 is truly amazing all around....
Its the xbone thats insanely under-powered. Its xbone exclusives that cant hold a candle to PS4 exclusives. And its the xbone that has vastly INFERIOR versions of multi-platform games etc etc etc
PS4 is a beast of a GAMING CONSOLE. I could not be happier with my PS4. Loving my PS4 so much
Again, its the xbone that is an under-powered, over-priced, cable box, spying, anti-consumer piece of shit
PS4 is the greatest pure gaming console ever
I mean just look at this.
http://i.imgur.com/gEvd3p1.jpg
Where's the "graphical leap" like ps2 to ps3?
My HDTVs are bigger than those tiny images. Those images are so small, you can't see the details, not to mention the motion.
Also, launch titles, yadda yadda.
I'm not impressed.. that's why I went with my budget build and am much more impressed with it then new consoles.
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