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#1 PS4hasNOgames
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Are we in such a black hole of mediocrity that people praise the AC franchise so much? The combat is bad, the AI is bad, you kill someone in front of 200 people and they don't even notice it. The game just completely sucks. I rented part 2 and turned it off after 20 minutes thats how stupid it was. Why do these games sell so much every single year? The commercial for Unity looks cool but I know once I play it, it will be NOTHING like the commercial.

Anyone else think its overrated?

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#2 freedomfreak
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I'm pretty sure there's not a single soul on this planet that feels the same way.

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#3 lawlessx
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"I rented part 2 and turned it off after 20 minutes thats how stupid it was"

so you didn't get past the tutorials

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#4 speedfreak48t5p
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No, but your threads are overrated.

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#5 LJS9502_basic
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

No, but your threads are overrated.

Very true....

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#6  Edited By PhazonBlazer
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Gee, what an unpopular opinion

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#7 princeofshapeir
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I haven't really enjoyed an AC game since Brotherhood and I chalk a lot of that up to the settings of the games since Revelations being very uninspired and less interesting than Renaissance Italy.

I'm still pretty skeptical of AC Unity but I've wanted a French Revolution AC game since the series began and there are a decent amount of changes to the series with this one.

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#8 PS4hasNOgames
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

No, but your threads are overrated.

Very true....

I'd rather be overrated than underpaid.

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#9  Edited By lostrib
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I didn't get past the first one, so I can't really say

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#10 arkephonic
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I agree completely 100%. It's beyond me how this garbage sells every year, and this is coming from someone who owns every single CoD game. The game play in ass bleed sucks. The ai like you said is terrible. The way you hide and get away is even worse. I've never seen anything in gaming as dumb as the eagle dive into hay bales. Not to mention, the automated platforming is about as casual as it gets.

I firmly believe that Assassin's Creed is the most overrated garbage franchise of the last 10 years.

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#11  Edited By cfisher2833
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@ps4hasnogames said:

Are we in such a black hole of mediocrity that people praise the AC franchise so much? The combat is bad, the AI is bad, you kill someone in front of 200 people and they don't even notice it. The game just completely sucks. I rented part 2 and turned it off after 20 minutes thats how stupid it was. Why do these games sell so much every single year? The commercial for Unity looks cool but I know once I play it, it will be NOTHING like the commercial.

Anyone else think its overrated?

I've always contended that it's the absolute worst of the major publishers' big franchises; it baffles my mind that people constantly insult CoD (which has very solid foundations and fairly consistent quality), yet rarely mention AssCreed. I wouldn't say the combat is terrible, but it's certainly nowhere near Arkham quality. My biggest issue with the series has always been its horrendous contextual controls, which inadvertently cause your character to do things you never intended for them to do like accidentally running up a wall. I never understood how the people that made Prince of Persia could **** up the basic controls of their game so much. I also dislike how the series pretends to be a stealth game, but really isn't--it's just a shitty action adventure franchise with lame missions. People will put up with a lot of mediocrity if the setting is good enough, and AssCreed always has had interesting locales.

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#12 PS4hasNOgames
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@cfisher2833 said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

Are we in such a black hole of mediocrity that people praise the AC franchise so much? The combat is bad, the AI is bad, you kill someone in front of 200 people and they don't even notice it. The game just completely sucks. I rented part 2 and turned it off after 20 minutes thats how stupid it was. Why do these games sell so much every single year? The commercial for Unity looks cool but I know once I play it, it will be NOTHING like the commercial.

Anyone else think its overrated?

I've always contended that it's the absolute worst of the major publishers' big franchises; it baffles my mind that people constantly insult CoD (which has very solid foundations and fairly consistent quality), yet rarely mention AssCreed. I wouldn't say the combat is terrible, but it's certainly nowhere near Arkham quality. My biggest issue with the series has always been its horrendous contextual controls, which inadvertently cause your character to do things you never intended for them to do like accidentally running up a wall. I never understood how the people that made Prince of Persia could **** up the basic controls of their game so much. I also dislike how the series pretends to be a stealth game, but really isn't--it's just a shitty action adventure franchise with lame missions. People will put up with a lot of mediocrity if the setting is good enough, and AssCreed always has had interesting locales.

Maybe because I grew up on games like metal gear solid and splinter cell and syphon filter...because as soon as I put on AssCreed i felt the quality was no up to par.

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#13 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

No, but your threads are overrated.

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@Gamerno6666 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

No, but your threads are overrated.

jealousy and envy coming from my enemies.

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#15 lostrib
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@ps4hasnogames said:

@cfisher2833 said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

Are we in such a black hole of mediocrity that people praise the AC franchise so much? The combat is bad, the AI is bad, you kill someone in front of 200 people and they don't even notice it. The game just completely sucks. I rented part 2 and turned it off after 20 minutes thats how stupid it was. Why do these games sell so much every single year? The commercial for Unity looks cool but I know once I play it, it will be NOTHING like the commercial.

Anyone else think its overrated?

I've always contended that it's the absolute worst of the major publishers' big franchises; it baffles my mind that people constantly insult CoD (which has very solid foundations and fairly consistent quality), yet rarely mention AssCreed. I wouldn't say the combat is terrible, but it's certainly nowhere near Arkham quality. My biggest issue with the series has always been its horrendous contextual controls, which inadvertently cause your character to do things you never intended for them to do like accidentally running up a wall. I never understood how the people that made Prince of Persia could **** up the basic controls of their game so much. I also dislike how the series pretends to be a stealth game, but really isn't--it's just a shitty action adventure franchise with lame missions. People will put up with a lot of mediocrity if the setting is good enough, and AssCreed always has had interesting locales.

Maybe because I grew up on games like metal gear solid and splinter cell and syphon filter...because as soon as I put on AssCreed i felt the quality was no up to par.

based on your posts, I'm not sure you have grown up

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#16 funsohng
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Do we really need to tell you this?

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#17 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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You don't even like gaming anymore.... maybe your sense of being a "gamer" is overated.

and lol at the Halo 2 best FPS ever thread... christ.... you can tell you have been a peasant all your life.... no wonder your bored with gaming this gen.

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#18 parkurtommo
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I think it's underrated, way too many people can't seem to see past the whole "too many sequels", "greedy publisher" "same game every year" bullshit. If you forget about that stuff (which is irrelevant) you're left with a great franchise.

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

No, but your threads are overrated.

@ps4hasnogames said:

jealousy and envy coming from my enemies.

Yeah that's probably it. Sure

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@parkurtommo said:

I think it's underrated, way too many people can't seem to see past the whole "too many sequels", "greedy publisher" "same game every year" bullshit. If you forget about that stuff (which is irrelevant) you're left with a great franchise.

And for being an annual franchise there is a surprising amount of effort put into making each game feel unique.

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#21 slim70
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I think that the franchise is being milked to ridiculous levels but one thing that I have to disagree with is that the combat is bad. I think that AC has the best combat system compared to any other game.

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#22  Edited By rabakill
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I'm with op, gave 1, 2, 3 and Black Flag a try. They all bored the crap outta me, wayyyyyyyy too repetitive.

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Incredibly shallow play systems. Missed opportunities to represent historical melee combat techniques and their nuances.

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#24 silversix_
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More than highly overrated. Its the most overrated franchise in history. Ass Creed Parity will come out and people be like "i was skeptical at first but then bought the game and its amazing"... people say this every single year even tho they're playing recycled trash. How the hell can people enjoy the gameplay of this game? I really don't get it. Its the same trash with a bs story and ridiculously shitty/easy combat system. Its the kind of games you let a none gamer try and he/she may be impressed but come'on, gamers enjoy this kind of shallowness? God dayuuum

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#25 SolidTy
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I thought the first game was interesting as a new IP once upon a time (when it was new) and it peaked with AC2. It's another annualized, milked series that I don't care about anymore much like Call of Duty and Madden.

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#26  Edited By foxhound_fox
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Highly? No. Slightly? Yes.

For the most part, they are 8/10 games that have a plethora of content but a lot of repetition.

Personally, I love them, but stopped after Revelations. Repetition and all.

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#27 so_hai
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Any game where the character wears a hood and works alone is bound to be popular. Add into that the killing and stupid acrobatics, and people think they're playing as a 'badass', then all the requirements are met...

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#28 DefconRave
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It's mindless stress free fun in an open world. Love the historical settings and gameplay but which there was a harder difficulty option. But yeah, if it wasn't a AAA game from a big publisher it would be rated alot lower.

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#29  Edited By parkurtommo
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@princeofshapeir said:

@parkurtommo said:

I think it's underrated, way too many people can't seem to see past the whole "too many sequels", "greedy publisher" "same game every year" bullshit. If you forget about that stuff (which is irrelevant) you're left with a great franchise.

And for being an annual franchise there is a surprising amount of effort put into making each game feel unique.

Yeah, but it makes sense. Ubisoft has a ton of different teams. I wonder what the full development cycle for an Ac game actually is. 2 years?

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#30 PikachuDude860
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I think they all look pretty much the same...Gameplay wise. Though I haven't actually sat down and played most of them, so I can't say for sure.

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#31 adamosmaki
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What you know for once i agree with TC. To be fair though i only played 1 and 2 but after those 2 i lost every will to play any sequel . Boring and repetitive games with mediocre combat

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#32  Edited By cainetao11
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I don't find it overrated but I accept its not my cup of tea anymore. I liked the first, monotonous as it was, loved 2, Brotherhood I didn't finish nor Revelations and 3,4. I just got tired of it.

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Black Flag was fantastic so it gives me high hopes for Unity.

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#34 coasterguy65
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I wouldn't say the series is over-rated, but I do believe the series peaked with the Enzio Trilogy. Personally I lost interest in AC3, and AC4 after only a few hours. Hopefully Unity and Rouge will be better otherwise I doubt I will even mess with the series in the future.

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@princeofshapeir said:

@parkurtommo said:

I think it's underrated, way too many people can't seem to see past the whole "too many sequels", "greedy publisher" "same game every year" bullshit. If you forget about that stuff (which is irrelevant) you're left with a great franchise.

And for being an annual franchise there is a surprising amount of effort put into making each game feel unique.

Wha?

What Assassins Creed game feels "unique"?

Even when they tried the pirate sh*t in Black Flag, it still consisted of the the exact same gameplay mechanics and shitty AI that have been present since the original.

At it's heart, it's basically a fucking roof hopping simulator.

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#36 Ballroompirate
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One and three were pretty horrible or "overrated" depedning on how you look at them, the gameplay has been pretty solid for the series but GD the story has been horrible.

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#37 Cloud_imperium
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I'm not sure . I hated AC 3 but loved AC 4 . Will have to see how newer games turn out . Revelations is my personal favorite because of characters and storyline but as an overall package , Black Flag is best . Very few games these days make me want to spend entire day , to play the game and Black Flag is one of those games. Now it's Divinity : Original Sin . Before that , it was Witcher 2 , 3 year ago .

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#38  Edited By deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Oh god that series -.- It is kind of interresting, with near every game Ive had people tell me that teh game is "way better" and nope. The Assassins Creed series is pretty damn bad.

With the possible exception of AC4, which saving grace was NOT to have a Little whiney cardboard cutout streotype being the main character. And the First one since, you know, you actually had to assassinate someone at some point.

But apart from the protagonists (which they dropped the ball with, so many times it is not even funny anymore, I thought the devs were playing a joke on me with the AC2 main protagonist, he was two steps away from chronically eating a bowl of pasta, and come with the random outburst "Itsa me Mario!"

But Gameplay is underwhemingly bad, too easy too simple for the depth they put in the avaiable options for it (counter butten much?). Vaguely based on historical characters is a decent enough thing, but what you do in them is overly underwhelming.

Hell for a game called "assassins creed" with the focus on assassins here. You do very Little in the area of assassinations and a Whole lot of murderous rampage against incredibly bad ai.

So no never a fan of the series Either, I do find TCs claims to be within reason from an objective point of view (not to mention the subjective one).

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It's a series that's amazingly mediocre.

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#40 Life-is-a-Game
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It is funny because I'm currently playing AssCreed 4: Black Flag and I'm thinking "what the hell did I do to myself?"

Seriously I was a big fan of AssCreed. I played AC1, AC2, AC:Brotherhood, AC: Revelations, AC3, and now AC: Black Flag. I was that big of a fan!! .. The first one was pretty good, second one amazing, third one amazing, fourth one disappointing, fifth one (AC3) was soooooooo shitty that I told myself I'm done with this series .. then came Black Flag which a lot of reviewers praised .. so I was blind and I bought it, and let me tell you one thing: this is the BIGGEST regret in my videogames purchasing history .. the game is CRAAAAAAAAAAAAP and it is even more disappointing than AC3, I don't understand why people praised this shit of a game ..

I'm not going to buy any more AssCreed games unless I rent them first and try them and see if they're good .. and I kinda agree with TC post although it is not as bad as he make it sound ..

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#42 Nengo_Flow
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I never cared for Ass Creed.

They are highly overrated, boring games with just a bunch of Ubisoft Hyped behind it.

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#43 Riverwolf007
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welcome to my world.

ac 1 was just straight up garbage with the terrible a.i. where i was killing npc's right infront of guards and they run over and go "what's all this then? who could have done this?!?!?!" and the 3mph horsey rides and the running from the top of the mtn every freaking mission and the nothing but counter hit fighting.

and yet it was gamespots action goty.

mind boggling.

anyway i thought the rest got way better and i was able to enjoy them.

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nope

name other non AC games that do what they do? That specific genre doesn't really have competition.

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#45  Edited By ButDuuude
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@ps4hasnogames said:

Are we in such a black hole of mediocrity that people praise the AC franchise so much? The combat is bad, the AI is bad, you kill someone in front of 200 people and they don't even notice it. The game just completely sucks. I rented part 2 and turned it off after 20 minutes thats how stupid it was. Why do these games sell so much every single year? The commercial for Unity looks cool but I know once I play it, it will be NOTHING like the commercial.

Anyone else think its overrated?

Yes, I find it highly overrated. The only good thing about it is the parkour.

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#46 GarGx1
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Is AC an unrealistic piece of crap? Yup

Is AC a fun, addictive, unrealistic piece of crap with an enticing story, that has people like me coming back year after year? Indubitably

I hate myself for loving an annual milk fest but I do and that's that (I don't buy the DLC though)

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#47 parkurtommo
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@Zelda187 said:

@princeofshapeir said:

@parkurtommo said:

I think it's underrated, way too many people can't seem to see past the whole "too many sequels", "greedy publisher" "same game every year" bullshit. If you forget about that stuff (which is irrelevant) you're left with a great franchise.

And for being an annual franchise there is a surprising amount of effort put into making each game feel unique.

Wha?

What Assassins Creed game feels "unique"?

Even when they tried the pirate sh*t in Black Flag, it still consisted of the the exact same gameplay mechanics and shitty AI that have been present since the original.

At it's heart, it's basically a fucking roof hopping simulator.

Man, none of you guys really get it.

AC is cool because of that "atmosphere". Each game has a different setting and those settings set each game apart. It's not the game mechanics or anything, it's just the setting, the feel.

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@SolidTy said:

I thought the first game was interesting as a new IP once upon a time (when it was new) and it peaked with AC2. It's another annualized, milked series that I don't care about anymore much like Call of Duty and Madden.

Really man? I was actually thinking of hooking up a HYPE Steam gamenight to get y'all back to some MP realness :p

I feel like Advance Warfare brings back that Blops 1, on-point, Multiplayer feels I really enjoyed and played the heck out of with the boys back in the day. It seriously looks pretty neat.

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I only played 2, the original which it was pretty boring after a while...and Black Flag, and for what it is, is pretty cool, the setting is really interesting, some action sequences are pretty intense, the characters are memorable and while the plot is meh, it does have a lot of content to keep you playing for a while...now with that being said, do i have interest in another Assassin's Creed? definitely no, at least not for a while, i mean i'm liking it for what it is, but i have zero interest in the overall plot and the rest of the games in the franchise.

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#50  Edited By sonic_spark
Member since 2003 • 6195 Posts

I'm an Action/Adventure gamer first and foremost. And these games, albeit not terrible, aren't great. Definitely not to the point of being in the discussion with the Zelda/Halo/Uncharted system sellers.