Anybody else prefer fallout 1 and 2 to fallout 3 and new vegas?

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#1 Fallout3dog
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I do. The graphics and all are nice but the story is 10X better in the first two. I am also a chess genius so that made the first two easy for me.
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#2 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="Fallout3dog"] I am also a chess genius so that made the first two easy for me.

More of a chess genius than Aku101? Got any trophies to prove it?
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#3 DroidPhysX
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But Fallout 1 and 2 were made by the same devs from Fallout New Vegas ;)

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#4 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Fallout3dog"]I do. The graphics and all are nice but the story is 10X better in the first two. I am also a chess genius so that made the first two easy for me.

well new vegas is built upon the fundamental values that the first two approached, even if it does have a next-generation engine. and so far it looks liked they've at least done a faithful and authentic attempt at capturing the factionized world in the first two. cannot wait until tues.
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#5 Fallout3dog
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Fallout3dog"] I am also a chess genius so that made the first two easy for me.

More of a chess genius than Aku101? Got any trophies to prove it?

no
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#6 Fried_Shrimp
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The first two are better than the third. Can't judge New Vegas yet.
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#7 themagicbum9720
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how many times are you going to make a new account?
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#8 Silverbond
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New Vegas hasn't even released. :|

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#9 Arach666
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I can tell you that I found the first two to be far,far better than F3,let´s see about NV.

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#10 fachriunited
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hmmm, i didnt play fallout 1 and 2, so fallout 3 and maybe nev vegas for me.
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#11 blabbyboy
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I prefer new vegas :P
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#12 Ace6301
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I hardly played any of Fallout 1 and I didn't get a chance to play FO2. I do really like FO3 and I'm totally getting NV on launch. I'm sure if I played the first two though I would enjoy them quite a bit but I have no idea how I would get either of them.
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#13 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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I would say Fallout 1 and 2 are better than 3, much much better. I haven't played New Vegas...
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#14 Grawse
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What happened to your creative names? You're getting lazy now :(

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#15 lawlessx
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new vegas isn't even out yet and your already making claims about it's story?
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#16 VinnoT
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Fallout 1 and 2 for me. But im a grumpy pc gamer who hates new things.
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#17 SPYDER0416
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I know I'll be called a heretic, but I prefer the latest ones. Honestly, its nostalgia that keeps the fanboys loving the old Fallout games and hating the new ones. Fallout 3 I'll concede has plenty of differences in atmosphere, but in general its the better game and was much more enjoyable for me.

To be fair I played the first 2 a little later so they were a bit more dated when I got to them.

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#18 thrillh0
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F1 and 2 are classics. Bethesda had some big shoes to fill and I thought they hit it out of the park with F3. Cant wait to play Vegas. Love em all.

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#19 Fallout3dog
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What happened to your creative names? You're getting lazy now :(

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What? This isnt creative?
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#20 Upparoom
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I'd have to agree. Fallout 3 is great, and it's what got me into the series, but it doesn't really hold a candle to the first two. I bought FO1 and 2 from GOG and enjoyed them both much more than FO3. Despite being in 3D, FO3 just isn't as addicting and doesn't do as good of a job of drawing the player into the world, partly because of Black Isle's excellent writing and 2D leaving a lot more to the imagination. Also, Fallout 3's RPG mechanics just feel a bit dumbed down in comparison, though it's more of an ARPG so it's sort of understandable

Honestly, its nostalgia that keeps the fanboys loving the old Fallout games and hating the new ones.

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Eh, not really. I bought both after FO3 and still enjoyed them more. Though, the change between 1 and 2 to 3 is so radical that it's really a matter of preference. FO3 is still a downgrade in some areas, but a sidegrade in others.

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#21 OneLazyAsian
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I like the idea of fraction rep being the indicator of the ending instead of the karma system. It reminds me a lot of how New Reno's ending changes depending on who you work for in Fallout 2. And I wonder if you can marry in New Vegas like you could in Fallout 2 (even if it was against your will).

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#22 cobrax25
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I like the idea of fraction rep being the indicator of the ending instead of the karma system. It reminds me a lot of how New Reno's ending changes depending on who you work for in Fallout 2. And I wonder if you can marry in New Vegas like you could in Fallout 2 (even if it was against your will).

OneLazyAsian

The guy in charge of new Reno is actually now the lead developer of New Vegas, so its not surprising they share a lot of design elements.

Any Fallout fan should read the Van Buren design files though, its a shame it never came out because they had some really, really good ideas.

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#23 OneLazyAsian
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[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

I like the idea of fraction rep being the indicator of the ending instead of the karma system. It reminds me a lot of how New Reno's ending changes depending on who you work for in Fallout 2. And I wonder if you can marry in New Vegas like you could in Fallout 2 (even if it was against your will).

cobrax25

The guy in charge of new Reno is actually now the lead developer of New Vegas, so its not surprising they share a lot of design elements.

Any Fallout fan should read the Van Buren design files though, its a shame it never came out because they had some really, really good ideas.

That's why I think New Vegas has a decent chance of living up to Fallout 1 and 2. And it was mighty sad that Van Buren's ideas were wasted all those years. I kinda hope that Beth would sponsor the project as well, but with the lawsuit and all I don't see that happening.

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#24 johny300
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So it's fallout3dog now, how many accounts are you making really, dogofwar3, Granturismodog.

On topic: i prefer FO3 and new vegas will be realesed tomorrow.

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#25 mbrockway
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As long as they actually finished the game this time *coughKOTOR2cough* and its less buggy than FO3 (thing freezes like for me), it could very well be in my top 5 games this gen.
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#26 jethrovegas
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Yes, I prefer either of those games to Fallout 3, and I prefer Fallout 1 to Fallout 2, by a wide margin.

But Fallout 1 and 2 were made by the same devs from Fallout New Vegas ;)

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No, that isn't true.

The original creators of Fallout (Tim Cain, Jason Anderson, and Leonard Boyarsky) ended up founding Troika, a studio which, in its brief existence, released three games that are each better than anything Obsidian has ever done (hell, Arcanum might very well be the best RPG ever made; it's only real competition in that regard is Fallout 1, a game which these gentlemen were also responsible for).

In other words, the proof is in the pudding. Compare Troika's oeuvre to Obsidian's and you'll see where the talent behind Fallout went.

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#27 Master_ShakeXXX
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I hope he's not ban-dodging because if he is he's going about it in the absolute worst and most obvious way.

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#28 DethSkematik
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I've already got New Vegas pre-loaded, and I'm off work on Tuesday. Perfect day indeed 8).
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#29 DragonfireXZ95
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Fallout 1 and 2 were miles ahead of Fallout 3. However, New Vegas seems to fill the shoes. If anything Fallout 3 should have been named some spin off name and New Vegas should have been Fallout 3.
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#30 RyanShazam
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Ive tried playing the older games and i cant do it. Im sure the story would be better in Fallout 1 and 2 because the story in Fallout 3 sucked, but the gameplay is so much better than the originals.

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#31 Xuix
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To each there own I guess. Fallout 1 and 2 had more tactical combat. It's funny how people like to disconnect things like dialogue and writing from the gameplay...which is somewhat idiotic, given that the dialogue/writing is an element to the game itself.I mean, you can avoid combat by using dialogue...how is that not gameplay?

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#32 Rage010101
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heck yes i totally agree. i keep telling my friends that fallout 1 and 2 are beyond better! they said they never played 1 and 2. soon as i showed them what 1 and 2 look like they instantly said "that looks like it sucks". sigh....

btw the ones who said that are extremely casual gamers

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#33 WhenCicadasCry
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The world in the first 2 were far more believable and more enjoyable to explore then Fallout 3. Fallout 3 felt like Oblivion with a Post-Apo setting and felt too Hollywoodized imo. I'm hoping Obsidian can bring the bleakness back to the Fallout universe. Plus the story and characters were far superior.

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#34 max-Emadness
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i havent played fallout 1 or 2 and new vegas isnt out yet so ill say no

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#35 skrat_01
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Without a doubt. They are far better *role playing games* Unquestionably. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are preaching to a generation of gamers hyped up on shooters. Not terrible games (well FO3), but not a quarter of a role playing classic that the first two are.
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#36 Falcon084-2
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I do. The graphics and all are nice but the story is 10X better in the first two. I am also a chess genius so that made the first two easy for me.Fallout3dog

I can't speak about Fallout NV because it is not out yet.

I love the story of Fallout one and two though I hated the time limit. Fallout 3 fixed this major problem. I love the series equally.

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#37 Gamerz1569
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For things like story, decision and consequences and other rpg elements. I prefer the classics but F3 had more action (considering the first 2 were turn based). Though its not at all surprising that F3 lacked in certain rpg aspects considering Bethesda was always about the action and what not.

Haven't played New Vegas so I really can't comment on that I probably won't get it till the holidays anyway.

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#38 AdrianWerner
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But Fallout 1 and 2 were made by the same devs from Fallout New Vegas ;)

DroidPhysX

No, not really. The leads from Fallout 1 left shortly after FO2 production began. So New Vegas is being made by devs who made Fallout 2 and were working on canceled Fallout 3.

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#39 Falcon084-2
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

But Fallout 1 and 2 were made by the same devs from Fallout New Vegas ;)

AdrianWerner

No, not really. The leads from Fallout 1 left shortly after FO2 production began. So New Vegas is being made by devs who made Fallout 2 and were working on canceled Fallout 3.

They were not canceled for Fallout 3 it was a different company.

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#40 Gamerz1569
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They were not canceled for Fallout 3 it was a different company.

Falcon084-2

He's referring to the original Fallout 3 aka Fallout Van Buren, it was before Bethesda bought the ip.

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#41 Falcon084-2
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[QUOTE="Falcon084-2"]

They were not canceled for Fallout 3 it was a different company.

Gamerz1569

He's referring to the original Fallout 3 aka Fallout Van Buren, it was before Bethesda bought the ip.

Oh ok :)