Any one else suspicious of Microsoft PR #s on xbone sales?

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#1  Edited By Halosball
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1. Microsoft PR has spent this generation lying blatantly to consumers. Suddenly we are supposed to take Microsoft PR for their "word"

2. How was Microsoft able to track the numbers this fast. The day hasnt even passed

3. Piggy-backing off of point 2, for Microsoft to have tracked the numbers this fast across 13 countries/ regions, it would be logistically impossible.

This reeks of typical Microsoft PR bullshit....

Geof Knightly is nothing more then a mouth piece for Microsoft as far as im concerned

I will not say anyther else other then- this doesnt hold up, or add up, and all I want is actual concrete PROOF before I even start to consider this as legit (numbers could still be skewed)

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#2 XenogearsMaster
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Yeah, I'm a bit surprised how fast they tracked it.

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#3 PCGamingIsOver
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I think Microsoft was talking about sold to retailers and not sold to the consumer. They assumed all units sent to retailers would be bought by consumers. I'd say only 40% of the units sent to retailers ended up in consumer hands.

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#4  Edited By Zophar87
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It launched in nearly every region on day one.. I don't see how exactly it's suspicious...

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#5 jeffmonster
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Ugh

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#6 lamprey263
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They're probably talking about sold to retailer, just as the PS4 is probably also sold to retailers figures.

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#7 PCGamingIsOver
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@Zophar87 said:

It launched in nearly every region on day one.. I don't see how exactly it's suspicious...

The "sold to consumers" part is suspicious.

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#8 SirBrandt
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Even if they did sell 1 million, it's not impressive since it's world wide.
Sony automatically wins in Europe and Japan, they will slaughter the X1 there. And now they are dominating North-America aswell, it's over for Lems.

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#9  Edited By Joedgabe
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Why ? why does that matter at the moment ? let people enjoy their consoles dammit trolls!

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#10 Shewgenja
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I don't. It's not like selling 1M overnight in a single territory level of achievement.

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#11 emgesp
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NSA helped track the numbers down.

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#12  Edited By santoron
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Good lord...

Preorders have been known to them for some time now, I don't think it should've been that hard to figure out. The idea of launch supplies selling out shouldn't be so surprising to people on this board.

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#13 PCGamingIsOver
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@sirbrandt said:

Even if they did sell 1 million, it's not impressive since it's world wide.

Sony automatically wins in Europe and Japan, they will slaughter the X1 there. And now they are dominating North-America aswell, it's over for Lems.

Indeed. The Xbone doesn't have any good games anymore.

Halo series is junk. Halo 5 will probably get no higher than a 75 on meta. Immature crappy game with terrible storyline.

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#14  Edited By jg780000
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Seriously you fanboys just cant stand it that the xbone is actually selling, and people still want xbox. Sorry guys ps4 is not going to dominate xboxone like all the ps4 fanboys said it will. Now go play your ps4.

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#15  Edited By Halosball
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Microsoft PR even goes on to claim that xbox ones are sold out evey where

People have been able to walk in to any store they want at any time they want and get an xbone.

That wasnt the case with the PS4 because the PS4 was legit selling out like hot cakes.

I know this is anectodal too, I was at Target and they had shelfes of unbought xbones just sitting there

There has been considerable less excitiment for the xbone....

There are still lots of xbones left according to legitmate reports from customers etc

And even before the consoles went on sale, the PS4 was consistently destroying thr xbone in pre-orders

There is no way im going to believe that the xbone was in as much demand as the PS4 was/is

That people were as excitied for the xbone, as they were truly excitied for the PS4

Reality and facts state other wise.

Reality, facts, and common sense state the PS4 has been way more in demand, and is a lot more popular etc

This is just Microsoft skewing numbers and posting their typical Microsoft PR bullshit in an attempt to "one up" Sony...

Even though the fact is, the PS4 SOLD 1 million PS4s in one day in the USA alone....the PS4 still holds the all time launch sales records ...but Microsoft PR is desperately trying to make it seem like the xbone is just as sought after...and im just not buying it based on everything we have known

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#16  Edited By SirBrandt
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@jg780000 said:

Seriously you fanboys just cant stand it that the xbone is actually selling, and people still want xbox. Sorry guys ps4 is not going to dominate xboxone like all the ps4 fanboys said it will. Now go play your ps4.

Sony does in one region what Microsoft does in 13 regions

It's over sorry

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#17 Zophar87
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@PCGamingIsOver said:

@Zophar87 said:

It launched in nearly every region on day one.. I don't see how exactly it's suspicious...

The "sold to consumers" part is suspicious.

Why?

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#18 Gue1
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Xbox launched WW while the PS4 was only on one region, so it makes sense. But by the end of the month this is gonna be a slaughter since M$ lost the only region where they dominated.

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@jg780000 said:

Seriously you fanboys just cant stand it that the xbone is actually selling, and people still want xbox. Sorry guys ps4 is not going to dominate xboxone like all the ps4 fanboys said it will. Now go play your ps4.

Actually, even if the Xbone did sell 1 million, the PS4 will outsell it by at least 2:1. Remember, Europe and Japan are SONY-lands.

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#20 jg780000
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It is not easy to get xboxone now.I went to my walmart all sold out.Went to amazon all sold out. Checked bestbuy all sold out. Myslef i'am not excited fr ps4 , their games right now do not interest me.

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#21  Edited By Cowslayer9000
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@halosball said:

I know this is anectodal too, I was at Target and they had shelfes of unbought xbones just sitting there

Why don't you give me the number to this Target so I can call and see if they have any in stock, because people who usually make the claim of seeing XB1's at a store never seem to want to back it up.

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#22  Edited By kingtito
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@cowslayer9000:

I just got back from target and called a few others. The websites say in stock but in actuality they're not. They count the ones that have been pre-ordered as being in stock. They also said they were told to hold any other units they have for some sale happening on Sunday. They told me all the targets are being told this. Everyone else I called or looked at are sold out of stock.

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#23 Basinboy
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Even if I were, I still wouldn't care

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#24  Edited By danabo
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I'm suspicious of people that are suspicious of a games console being sold out at launch. :|

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#25 mems_1224
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lol I love how much butthurt the X1 is causing among the haters. poor fanboys are in denial.

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#26  Edited By SirBrandt
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@mems_1224 said:

lol I love how much butthurt the X1 is causing among the haters. poor fanboys are in denial.

Whenever you try to sound "happy" you're actually crying, we all know this

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@sirbrandt said:

@mems_1224 said:

lol I love how much butthurt the X1 is causing among the haters. poor fanboys are in denial.

Whenever you try to sound "happy" you're actually crying, we all know this

prove it

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#28 Sweenix
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@jg780000 said:

Seriously you fanboys just cant stand it that the xbone is actually selling, and people still want xbox. Sorry guys ps4 is not going to dominate xboxone like all the ps4 fanboys said it will. Now go play your ps4.

LOL

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@mems_1224 said:

@sirbrandt said:

@mems_1224 said:

lol I love how much butthurt the X1 is causing among the haters. poor fanboys are in denial.

Whenever you try to sound "happy" you're actually crying, we all know this

prove it


You're a Lem.

Well... you were a Lem. Now you're a wannabe Hermit aren't you?

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#30 tacoma1972
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Yeah the sold a million in 13 regions vs a million in one. M$ trying to make that seem so great. Sony wil double their number when they launch next week. Point is m$ has lost their main market because outside th us Sony wins.

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#31 Cubs360
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@halosball: stop damage controlling dude. I'll tell you one thing, I couldn't find an Xbox. For the life of me today, sold out everywhere. There was one ps4 at my target though.

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#32 LJS9502_basic
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I doubt they have sold through numbers. They could have sold to retailers though. Too early to track all the sales in 13 countries to consumers.

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#33 mems_1224
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@sirbrandt said:

@mems_1224 said:

@sirbrandt said:

@mems_1224 said:

lol I love how much butthurt the X1 is causing among the haters. poor fanboys are in denial.

Whenever you try to sound "happy" you're actually crying, we all know this

prove it

You're a Lem.

Well... you were a Lem. Now you're a wannabe Hermit aren't you?

prove it

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#34 HitmanActual
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Just MS showing off their consolation prize. Might be the only thing they have to brag about in the near future cos after PS4 releases in the rest of the world in a week, everyone is going to see just how far behind in sales the Xbone really is.

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@hitmanactual said:

Just MS showing off their consolation prize. Might be the only thing they have to brag about in the near future cos after PS4 releases in the rest of the world in a week, everyone is going to see just how far behind in sales the Xbone really is.

And everyone's gonna play Knack and be happy for the next few months? That's really sad.

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#36  Edited By stereointegrity
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it is sort of funny that it hasnt been 24 hours and they said they already sold a million in 24 hours

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#37 HitmanActual
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@Salt_The_Fries: Sad are people who have blind allegiance to a single company and get super butthurt when that console falls way behind in sales or doesn't have access to certain games.

I am getting a PS4 on Friday when it releases in my region and I am only getting Killzone for the sake of it. Will have a bit of a play with the games available for PS+ but doubt if I will buy anything else until Infamous. I may get NFS Rivals, time will tell.

Got a ton of games to finish on my PS3 and Vita.

If worse comes to worse I can continue on with career mode in Forza 5 on my Xbone, put in a few rounds of Powershot Golf, have a crack at Killer Instinct which I just got my code for or as a last resort play FIFA 14 that I got for free. As you can see I am really sad. ;)

Diversity and choices are something that fanboys only get in limited supply.

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#38  Edited By treedoor
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@stereointegrity said:

it is sort of funny that it hasnt been 24 hours and they said they already sold a million in 24 hours

It's been available in New Zealand for 44 hours now.

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#39 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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I got my pS4 at GameStop. There were about 60 people there between preorders and people picking up extras. I got my Xbox One from Best Buy. I know they had more consoles than GameStop. There were over 200 people there getting an Xbox One. The Cows on this board must not have any friends because they didn't do a good job of getting the word out. The place was very excited for the new Microsoft console.

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#40 gago-gago
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It's as suspicious as Sony making up percentage numbers of defective PS4s so quickly.

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#41  Edited By Krelian-co
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Just do what i do and dismiss every single pr statement from ms, its the biggest bs making company when it comes to PR, and everything else actually.

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#42 edidili
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Lets not forget that PS4 launched only on US. I fully expect for PS4 to sell more, at least in the beginning but I can see xbox launching on several countries at the same time matching the number of PS4 only in US.

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#43 Krelian-co
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@sirbrandt said:

@mems_1224 said:

@sirbrandt said:

@mems_1224 said:

lol I love how much butthurt the X1 is causing among the haters. poor fanboys are in denial.

Whenever you try to sound "happy" you're actually crying, we all know this

prove it

You're a Lem.

Well... you were a Lem. Now you're a wannabe Hermit aren't you?

he's still a failed lem, he just now tries to hide behind pc, lul.

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@Krelian-co said:

@sirbrandt said:

@mems_1224 said:

@sirbrandt said:

@mems_1224 said:

lol I love how much butthurt the X1 is causing among the haters. poor fanboys are in denial.

Whenever you try to sound "happy" you're actually crying, we all know this

prove it

You're a Lem.

Well... you were a Lem. Now you're a wannabe Hermit aren't you?

he's still a failed lem, he just now tries to hide behind pc, lul.

prove it

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#45  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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Calm down brofists, this is the only time it is easy. They're going by pre ordered sales. Which is pretty much the only way to pick up either console. They don't need to track those, there was only so many allocated. How do you think Sony got the figures so quick. It takes more than a week realistically.

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#46  Edited By k2theswiss
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how can they track numbers? EASY

serial numbers! how do you think those $ cards work? They are scanned the info is sent to the company and activeated.

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#47 FLOPPAGE_50
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I worked the midnight launch at a major retail store, we had over 200 people in line, the store accross town had over 300.

so no, M$ did not lie.

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#48  Edited By freedomfreak
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/brofists post.

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#49 tormentos
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It took sony 2 days to track sales on US and canada alone,i think what is possible is that they just accounted shipped units as sold,taking as base that many places were sold out.

So you ship 1 million and 98% of store are sold out so you give for accounted that all sold,not very distant from the truth any way,and what get counted always is shipped numbers,i don't think they calculate units rather to fast for been a launch in 13 countries,but fallowing my example is not hard to do,it would have been better if they actually waited 24 hours after the US launch,after all US is their biggest market by far.

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#50 LJS9502_basic
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

I worked the midnight launch at a major retail store, we had over 200 people in line, the store accross town had over 300.

so no, M$ did not lie.

LOL anecdotal evidence. Not all countries have the same support for MS consoles. You can't calculate total sold because you had 200 people in your store.

Trying too hard dude....