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#1 nintendoboy16
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...for his SECOND and final Nintendo rant.

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AJ video here:

Again, let me make this PERFECTLY clear, what I think on this is NOT in defense of Nintendo's YT actions (I'm up in the air, really; besides, put my name aside, will ya? Don't see those with Star Wars usernames defend Disney and/or George Lucas) and I am a fan of Joe's review but he walked on this and should have known better after THIS previous rant he made on the company.

Sorry Joe, but in YOUR words "You dun fucked it up!"

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I don't necessarily support Nintendo on the whole Content Creator Program either, and I saw these videos in the Lounge when you posted them.

I don't know. He's just so whiny. It's especially bizarre after seeing both videos.

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He's mildy stupid for forgetting that he made this exact same rant before.

It still doesn't change the reality that Nintendo is an archaic joke who is completely ridiculous when it comes to how they handle modern media at this point. Youtube for them can be glorified free advertisement that they don't have to pay for, and their claim to "protecting our copyright" is some grade A bullshit that ignores that gaming is an interactive medium, you actually have to play it yourself for it to have some merit, watching it doesn't give you the same experience. Video games aren't like movies, they are more closer to checkers and connect four. So redundancy aside, his actual rant has plenty of merit to it, unless you know you're part of the National Association of Apologize for Nintendo's Bullshit.

But I am 100% confident the cry baby, cock sucking, cum guzzling, Nintendo apologists will continue to make an excuse for that out of touch company.

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#4  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@Zassimick said:

I don't necessarily support Nintendo on the whole Content Creator Program either, and I saw these videos in the Lounge when you posted them.

I don't know. He's just so whiny. It's especially bizarre after seeing both videos.

I was hoping I didn't make a thread on this, but the fact that Eddie Makuch helped make it bigger, that need just had to come.

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#5  Edited By Extrodinare101
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God I can't stand this idiot. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo is still stuck in the 90's but Angry Joe has a tendency to make an ass out of himself, especially when he has the melt downs.

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#6 DEadliNE-Zero0
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My points are already in the comment section.

Regardless of anything, Nintendo's Content Creator Program is compelty and utter piece of steaming cow shit.

If that's how Nintendo wants to approach Youtube, then i can't side with them, regardless of AJ

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Maybe AJ will have to get a real job now.

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#8  Edited By Extrodinare101
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@clyde46 said:

Maybe AJ will have to get a real job now.

He'll probably start a Patreon before that happens.

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@jg4xchamp: Free advertising is free advertising, but that doesn't mean that Nintendo or any company should just accept it.

They may not like the avenue that this "free advertising" is coming from, and they also can't control their message through someone like Angry Joe. What if Angry Joe hated on the game? In the case of Mario Party 10, it sounds like he was having a blast and it could have gotten some sales for the game. But if he's criticizing it to no end? Could potentially stop many from buying it, thus acting as a detriment. Sure, the video would increase awareness of said game, but I'm guessing Nintendo wants a more controlled strategy focused on sales. A

I'm not saying I support Nintendo's thought-process regarding their online practices, but I don't believe that Angry Joe is 100% in the right either by claiming he's doing a service by giving free publicity for Nintendo with his videos.

Apologies in advance for errors in the post, typing on my phone at work. :'(

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I may not agree with Joe on everything especially the social justice warrior shit, but he is correct that Nintendo are a bunch of pricks.

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@clyde46: AJ makes good money at what he's doing....I'd say it's a real enough job.

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love his reviews but he has no place on gs.

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@Zassimick said:

@jg4xchamp: Free advertising is free advertising, but that doesn't mean that Nintendo or any company should just accept it.

They may not like the avenue that this "free advertising" is coming from, and they also can't control their message through someone like Angry Joe. What if Angry Joe hated on the game? In the case of Mario Party 10, it sounds like he was having a blast and it could have gotten some sales for the game. But if he's criticizing it to no end? Could potentially stop many from buying it, thus acting as a detriment. Sure, the video would increase awareness of said game, but I'm guessing Nintendo wants a more controlled strategy focused on sales. A

I'm not saying I support Nintendo's thought-process regarding their online practices, but I don't believe that Angry Joe is 100% in the right either by claiming he's doing a service by giving free publicity for Nintendo with his videos.

Apologies in advance for errors in the post, typing on my phone at work. :'(

The bold would fall under "criticism", which I think goes without saying where Nintendo would be in the wrong in that department as well.

Let's ignore the service part of it, there is more than enough evidence at this point that it's been more useful than harm to have your game being spoken about on youtube (especially if the game is good) without claiming copyright. He's full of shit when he says it's not about the money, because let's be real it's totally about the money. That said he's not wrong in saying how Nintendo handles this shit is out of touch and ridiculous.

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#14  Edited By Gue1
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This is like the shit he pulled on Capcom on last December all over again. He got DMCA'ed because even though he had his own SFV footage the idiot monetized the video while playing footage straight from the Capcom Fighters channel. Later on Capcom caved in since Joe is so big now but he didn't even apologized and left the video unlisted, thus making everyone believe that the original video was never restored.

Now Joe gets DMCA'ed again but why? Because the idiot didn't follow Nintendo's program rules, so of-course the Mario Party stuff was going to be taken down... In fact, I was expecting it from the very moment I saw the video pop up in my subs section. Then Joe comes and makes another monetized rant video but notice the viewership count, it has more than most of his prior videos!

I love Angry Joe and everything but he's been doing some stupid stuff lately that feels a little bit too fishy.

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@clyde46 said:

Maybe AJ will have to get a real job now.

YouTube IS a real job. It's a form of self employment, and make no mistake, it takes a lot of time and effort to make videos; from recording, to editing, and sometimes even scripting. AJ has a lot of production in his reviews, with green screen and other visual effects he does. It's very comparable to the time and work people put into going into a store and punching a clock. Sure some videos are quick 10 minute blogs, but few videos are posted un-edited. With those that have had more thought put into them... I mean if you think these are all just 5 min worth of a handful of mouse clicks, you are deluding yourself.

More on topic, while all game developers have cause to defend their properties, there should still be compromise, some middle ground to be found in relation to community contributions. Just look at how some devs commission cosplayers as official spokesmen for their games, such as Ormeli as Elizabeth of Bioshock Infinite.

It's beneficial for studios and publishers to have better relations with their community, the very people who support their product and brand, and to give recognition in that support. And this really needs to be examined in context. It's not as though Joe (or any other blogger) makes some home-made game using someone else's property and tries to sell that knock off on the open market, like online. These videos are great publicity for game makers, but what YouTubers essentially do is pay tribute to the game makers... unless we're talking about a critical review, and let's hope that's a fair & honest one.

But for the most part, while legally actionable (on a technical level), it's still ethically questionable. Nintendo's actions are a slap in the face to their own supporters, a failure to recognize the value of community. Their backwards business model has to evolve or sooner or later they will suffer for it.

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@Zassimick said:

@jg4xchamp: Free advertising is free advertising, but that doesn't mean that Nintendo or any company should just accept it.

They may not like the avenue that this "free advertising" is coming from, and they also can't control their message through someone like Angry Joe. What if Angry Joe hated on the game? In the case of Mario Party 10, it sounds like he was having a blast and it could have gotten some sales for the game. But if he's criticizing it to no end? Could potentially stop many from buying it, thus acting as a detriment. Sure, the video would increase awareness of said game, but I'm guessing Nintendo wants a more controlled strategy focused on sales. A

I'm not saying I support Nintendo's thought-process regarding their online practices, but I don't believe that Angry Joe is 100% in the right either by claiming he's doing a service by giving free publicity for Nintendo with his videos.

Apologies in advance for errors in the post, typing on my phone at work. :'(

I think he's looking at it with a video by video basis.

This video was a positive show for Nintendo...so in this instance he feels he did nothing wrong or whatever. I think he's right in that regard.

But possibly having negative videos, I think, is EXACTLY why Nintendo wants to have a strangle hold on their content on youtube.

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All of those youtube gamers are stupid to me.

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@iknowwhatswrong said:

All of those youtube gamers are stupid to me.

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Ironic that Joe doesn't do any content like this.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@Zassimick said:

They may not like the avenue that this "free advertising" is coming from, and they also can't control their message through someone like Angry Joe. What if Angry Joe hated on the game? In the case of Mario Party 10, it sounds like he was having a blast and it could have gotten some sales for the game. But if he's criticizing it to no end? Could potentially stop many from buying it, thus acting as a detriment. Sure, the video would increase awareness of said game, but I'm guessing Nintendo wants a more controlled strategy focused on sales.

The bold would fall under "criticism", which I think goes without saying where Nintendo would be in the wrong in that department as well.

Let's ignore the service part of it, there is more than enough evidence at this point that it's been more useful than harm to have your game being spoken about on youtube (especially if the game is good) without claiming copyright. He's full of shit when he says it's not about the money, because let's be real it's totally about the money. That said he's not wrong in saying how Nintendo handles this shit is out of touch and ridiculous.

Criticism would be different than controlling the message. Constructive criticism is good, and Nintendo should embrace that if they aren't because it would only make them better developers. But someone screaming at the camera about a stupid mechanic and how it's bullshit? Nintendo may not want to associate themselves with the cursing or the abrasive behavior that many Youtube personalities are known for. Even if there is more evidence that Youtube coverage is more useful than harmful, it doesn't mean Nintendo wants their brand and games associated with that type of personality.

I'll say again that I do not support Nintendo's practices with this and I agree that Nintendo needs to get their head out from their behinds and better support their community and their fans. But I can understand why Nintendo may be going about things the way they are, even if it's pretty shmeh overall.

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#20  Edited By Shielder7
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A SJW gets featured by a SJW Siverstring media aligned site. Who would of thought.........................

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

I think he's looking at it with a video by video basis.

This video was a positive show for Nintendo...so in this instance he feels he did nothing wrong or whatever. I think he's right in that regard.

But possibly having negative videos, I think, is EXACTLY why Nintendo wants to have a strangle hold on their content on youtube.

That's my thinking behind it, too. At least it's one reason. Is it right to be for it when it works in your favor but then cut ties when it is harmful to the sales of your game?

I feel like I'm showing support for the Content Creator Program by defending Nintendo even slightly. :P

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@extrodinare101 said:

God I can't stand this idiot. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo is still stuck in the 90's but Angry Joe has a tendency to make an ass out of himself, especially when he has the melt downs.

He's a Anita Sarkeesian supporter what did you expect......l.

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I already made my comments on his stupidity but the fact the matter is, he had it coming and this isn't the first time he done this, Mario Kart 8 got flagged and this fool didn't learn his mistakes and no, I ain't a Nintendo fan, I don't agree with there YouTube Bullshit policy but the matter is, just let it go Joe. He has a Twitch channel, use that Joe since Nintendo can't touch that one.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

Don't see those with Star Wars usernames defend Disney and/or George Lucas)

This is the most trash comparison I have seen in recent memory. Because as we all know Starwars was owned by disney for decad- oh...

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@Shielder7 said:
@extrodinare101 said:

God I can't stand this idiot. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo is still stuck in the 90's but Angry Joe has a tendency to make an ass out of himself, especially when he has the melt downs.

He's a Anita Sarkeesian supporter what did you expect......l.

he's always been very supportive of her right to do the shit she does without being harassed or threatened but he has never openly said that he supports her insanity. I mean, who would? Beside delusional sjw's of-course.

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@Zassimick said:
@jg4xchamp said:

The bold would fall under "criticism", which I think goes without saying where Nintendo would be in the wrong in that department as well.

Let's ignore the service part of it, there is more than enough evidence at this point that it's been more useful than harm to have your game being spoken about on youtube (especially if the game is good) without claiming copyright. He's full of shit when he says it's not about the money, because let's be real it's totally about the money. That said he's not wrong in saying how Nintendo handles this shit is out of touch and ridiculous.

Criticism would be different than controlling the message. Constructive criticism is good, and Nintendo should embrace that if they aren't because it would only make them better developers. But someone screaming at the camera about a stupid mechanic and how it's bullshit? Nintendo may not want to associate themselves with the cursing or the abrasive behavior that many Youtube personalities are known for. Even if there is more evidence that Youtube coverage is more useful than harmful, it doesn't mean Nintendo wants their brand and games associated with that type of personality.

I'll say again that I do not support Nintendo's practices with this and I agree that Nintendo needs to get their head out from their behinds and better support their community and their fans. But I can understand why Nintendo may be going about things the way they are, even if it's pretty shmeh overall.

That's what a youtube video can be though, it is constructive criticism. Even review channels can't use footage of a Nintendo game without being flagged. Plus Nintendo doesn't and frankly shouldn't have a say on how something is critiqued in the first place. Plenty of those channels aren't abrasive or over exaggerated like Angry Joe, and Nintendo's policy is universal in this regard. They don't really have a leg to stand on beyond the part where YouTube/Google hasn't gone to bat for their channels yet, the day that actually happens, Nintendo would be in a bit of a rude awakening on this whole "copyright" stuff.

Nintendo likes to control the message. Nintendo likes to pick who they associate themselves with Youtube. All these reasons can sound fair all the want, but they would be stifling actual critical and quality channels (not just Joe) which is shit, and are being oblivious to an aspect of youtube that goes far beyond simply just posting a playthrough up and calling it a day.

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It's only ok when Nintendo does it anyway

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I'm sure Nintendo will miss all of the zero support he's given them over the years.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

I'm sure Nintendo will miss all of the zero support he's given them over the years.

Wouldn't be a matter of the support he never gave before, but the support they aren't getting going forward.

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@jg4xchamp said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

I'm sure Nintendo will miss all of the zero support he's given them over the years.

Wouldn't be a matter of the support he never gave before, but the support they aren't getting going forward.

I doubt he was ever going to put up any videos. He staged this whole stunt. He knew they would take it down. I'm not buying it.

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Lots of people get stuff taken down by YouTube or for copyright. Don't understand the hate that Nintendo gets for it.

As for Whiney Joe, he already has made the same crybaby video already. So he knows be can't make a video with Nintendo games. I hope they file a lawsuit this time.

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@extrodinare101 said:

God I can't stand this idiot. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo is still stuck in the 90's but Angry Joe has a tendency to make an ass out of himself, especially when he has the melt downs.

Agreed. Fine, if people wanna give him hits. But he's just so acidic all the time, and frankly not very funny or insightful, I just can't get into it.

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@iknowwhatswrong said:

All of those youtube gamers are stupid to me.

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Best video by far done by Collegehumor, maybe they should continue doing gaming content instead of their ordinary lame content.

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It's only ok when Nintendo does it anyway

Ugh... how many people are... you know what? **** it! I'm keeping my word after saying it too many times in the comments.

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@nintendoboy16: I rest my case

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

I'm sure Nintendo will miss all of the zero support he's given them over the years.

Wouldn't be a matter of the support he never gave before, but the support they aren't getting going forward.

I doubt he was ever going to put up any videos. He staged this whole stunt. He knew they would take it down. I'm not buying it.

Words of a shill though. Man, Nintendo don't giv a fvck about you!

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@bobrossperm said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

I'm sure Nintendo will miss all of the zero support he's given them over the years.

Wouldn't be a matter of the support he never gave before, but the support they aren't getting going forward.

I doubt he was ever going to put up any videos. He staged this whole stunt. He knew they would take it down. I'm not buying it.

Words of a shill though. Man, Nintendo don't giv a fvck about you!

And who does? Angry Joe? Youtube? Gamespot? Sony? Corporations?

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Joe walked into a firing squad and complained that he got shot. I'm not a fan of his channel, or any of the 'angry' Youtube personalities. I'm really not a fan of Nintendo's policies toward content creators. However, Joe should have known what would happen after the first time or if he had been paying attention to the news.

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@clyde46 said:

Maybe AJ will have to get a real job now.

I've always wondered what these video game reviewers are going to put on their Resume/CV.

"I made reviews about video games on youtube for 6 years." It doesn't exactly paint a good impression.

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@YearoftheSnake5 said:

Joe walked into a firing squad and complained that he got shot. I'm not a fan of his channel, or any of the 'angry' Youtube personalities. I'm really not a fan of Nintendo's policies toward content creators. However, Joe should have known what would happen after the first time or if he had been paying attention to the news.

He staged it and now he got what he wanted. 600k views on a new video. And even coverage from mainstream game sites.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@bobrossperm said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

I'm sure Nintendo will miss all of the zero support he's given them over the years.

Wouldn't be a matter of the support he never gave before, but the support they aren't getting going forward.

I doubt he was ever going to put up any videos. He staged this whole stunt. He knew they would take it down. I'm not buying it.

Words of a shill though. Man, Nintendo don't giv a fvck about you!

And who does? Angry Joe? Youtube? Gamespot? Sony? Corporations?

That isn't important. What is, is that Nintendo are being greedy here. It's not the way things are done no more. Sony and MS implamented share functions at the launch of these new consoles because it's actually free advertisement.

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#42  Edited By YearoftheSnake5
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

He staged it and now he got what he wanted. 600k views on a new video. And even coverage from mainstream game sites.

Yup, he did. -_-

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#43 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@Bread_or_Decide: Pretty sure Joe didn't expect this to get coverage. He's done angry rants about.......................everything since ever

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#44 clyde46
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@moistcarrot said:

@clyde46 said:

Maybe AJ will have to get a real job now.

I've always wondered what these video game reviewers are going to put on their Resume/CV.

"I made reviews about video games on youtube for 6 years." It doesn't exactly paint a good impression.

Depends on what job they want to apply for. A reviewers job say, here at GS then that would get them hired straight away.

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#45  Edited By AcidTango
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@iknowwhatswrong said:

All of those youtube gamers are stupid to me.

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LOL man that was great.

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@clyde46 said:

Maybe AJ will have to get a real job now.

Why Disney pays $$$$

Anyway they legally can so old news...

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It always makes me laugh when people think that making money from Youtube is easy. There are thousands of YT accounts with several videos and a lot of them don't even get 100 views. You really have to standout from rest of the crowd to get attention. People say it's easy should record their own video alone and watch it, and see if they don't laugh at themselves. No job is easy, everything requires passion and hardwork, one way or another.

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@jg4xchamp said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

I'm sure Nintendo will miss all of the zero support he's given them over the years.

Wouldn't be a matter of the support he never gave before, but the support they aren't getting going forward.

Because judging his past of never supporting Nintendo I could extrapolate that 0% to blow up to a staggering.... 0%.

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@Shielder7 said:

@extrodinare101 said:

God I can't stand this idiot. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo is still stuck in the 90's but Angry Joe has a tendency to make an ass out of himself, especially when he has the melt downs.

He's a Anita Sarkeesian supporter what did you expect......l.

You know, the funny thing is she would have remained an obscure youtuber if people didn't feel the need to constantly bring her up.

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#50 Seabas989
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Nintendo's youtube program sucks but it's there IPs and Angry Joe knew about it beforehand.

So I am neutral on this.