Andrew House: Even if a majority of Ps4 Pro games are upscaled it's not misleading to say the games run at 4K

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#1  Edited By T-razor1
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STFU House

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#2 Zero_epyon
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It kind of is.

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#3 deactivated-5f768591970d3
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isnt that the same as MS saying all xb1 games run in 1080p? Upscalling doesnt matter anymore?

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#4 kvally
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Upscaling = Native

Because Sony says so.

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#5 chikenfriedrice
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It is actually.....and it's annoying.

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#6 T-razor1
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isnt that the same as MS saying all xb1 games run in 1080p? Upscalling doesnt matter anymore?

Exxxxaaaaaccccccctttlllly......

Do people not remember Microsoft getting crucified for saying their games run at 1080p and then the sh*t hit the fan. This is no different.

I swear I feel like punching a wall when I read sh*t like this....If you go to a dictionary to look up the word hypocrisy the book will not be big enough to include every single sony execs face and the hundreds of Sony fanboys that kiss their a** even when shit comes out of it onto their face.

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#7 blueinheaven
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Spencer did this too with the Xbox One S though in fairness to him I think he actually is that stupid to believe upscaling to 4K makes it native 4K.

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#8 silversix_
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I want to sue them for this kind of bullshit. If Blackace joins my case, we're suing the flying shit out of Sony. But seriously, this is disgusting.

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#9 kvally
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Well, this is embarrassing.

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#10 Telekill
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At this point in time, I really don't care as all my content will be upscaled to 4K. I'm not spending $300 plus for a 4K player.

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#11 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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This can't be real life. How was Sony so good 3 years ago but so bad now? What happened?

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#12 T-razor1
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So which one is it cows?

Your Lord has spoken. Pick one because you can't have it both ways:

A. We apologize...Xbox One games run at 1080p.

B. No our savior is wrong. Xbox One games run at 1080p upscaled. It is no different here...you cannot say it runs at 4K. It runs at 4K upscaled

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#13 remiks00
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@kvally said:

Upscaling = Native

Because Sony says so.

In Sony we trust.

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#14 navyguy21
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@T-razor1 said:
@ankor77 said:

isnt that the same as MS saying all xb1 games run in 1080p? Upscalling doesnt matter anymore?

Exxxxaaaaaccccccctttlllly......

Do people not remember Microsoft getting crucified for saying their games run at 1080p and then the sh*t hit the fan. This is no different.

I swear I feel like punching a wall when I read sh*t like this....If you go to a dictionary to look up the word hypocrisy the book will not be big enough to include every single sony execs face and the hundreds of Sony fanboys that kiss their a** even when shit comes out of it onto their face.

To be fair guys, he said "display" 1080p, but i get your point.

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#15  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Consoles are very pathetic, the years of aspiring towards pc have been repeated failures.

Give up already.

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Andrew House doing his best Aaron Greenberg impersonation.

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#17 Zero_epyon
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@T-razor1 said:

So which one is it cows?

Your Lord has spoken. Pick one because you can't have it both ways:

A. We apologize...Xbox One games run at 1080p.

B. No our savior is wrong. Xbox One games run at 1080p upscaled. It is no different here...you cannot say it runs at 4K. It runs at 4K upscaled

Side note: Who the heck thinks Andrew House is actually liked or likable? I can't stand that dude.

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#18 Chutebox
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Not native so GTFO with that crap.

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#19  Edited By loe12k
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@T-razor1 said:

STFU House

Sony is like MS in 2013 confusing the message and make things worse for themselves. Games not rendered at 4k are not 4K games.

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#20 navyguy21
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@Zero_epyon said:
@T-razor1 said:

So which one is it cows?

Your Lord has spoken. Pick one because you can't have it both ways:

A. We apologize...Xbox One games run at 1080p.

B. No our savior is wrong. Xbox One games run at 1080p upscaled. It is no different here...you cannot say it runs at 4K. It runs at 4K upscaled

Side note: Who the heck thinks Andrew House is actually liked or likable? I can't stand that dude.

But his goatee is all man :P

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Andrew House doing his best Aaron Greenberg impersonation.

You are doing your best dynamiteflop impersonation.

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#22 loe12k
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@GoldenElementXL said:

This can't be real life. How was Sony so good 3 years ago but so bad now? What happened?

None of the guys at Sony are even gamers. They lost Adam Boyes, Jack Tretton, and Yoshida seems to have gone missing for last year?

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#23  Edited By Juub1990
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So if a guy is 5'10 but wears shoes that make him appear 6', he wouldn't be misleading people by saying he is 6' tall?

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@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Andrew House doing his best Aaron Greenberg impersonation.

You are doing your best dynamiteflop impersonation.

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/396066138875912192

You can't make this stuff up.

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#25 NFJSupreme
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Damage control

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#26 Flyincloud1116
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Andrew House doing his best Aaron Greenberg impersonation.

You are doing your best dynamiteflop impersonation.

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/396066138875912192

You can't make this stuff up.

We need you back.

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#27 Draign
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Sony slapping fans in the face all summer 16.

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#28 DarkrecoN
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didnt system wars bash any game that upscaled on xb1 so why is ok for ps4 pro to

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#29  Edited By AzatiS
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It is misleading ... Its just marketing .. the typical BS im talking about

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#30 T-razor1
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Andrew House doing his best Aaron Greenberg impersonation.

You are doing your best dynamiteflop impersonation.

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/396066138875912192

You can't make this stuff up.

We need you back.

Looks like he's in the middle. His cow roots still rear their ugly head evident by the total unnecessary attempt to continue to drag MS in the mud using a three year old tweet. Oh no we can't have Sony looking bad by themselves...oh no no no no no..... where's that Greenberg tweet? Lol.

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#31 navyguy21
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Andrew House doing his best Aaron Greenberg impersonation.

You are doing your best dynamiteflop impersonation.

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/396066138875912192

You can't make this stuff up.

We need you back.

Please dont encourage him to go back full cow lol. Ive been thinking about adding him on PSN/XBL, dont ruin it lol.

That said, I agree with you guys.

I will say that anyone who takes what EITHER CEO seriously is so far gone they cant be saved anyway.

We all knew it was BS when they talked about upscaling at the conference just like the guy called out greenberg

We need to start thinking for ourselves and stop marching to a console beat

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#32 GarGx1
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Is it wrong to call the PS4 a "4k capable" console? Probably not, due it being able to run some games at native 4k, this is what gets Sony out off a false advertisement law suit.

That being said, is it honest? Probably not.

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#33 R4gn4r0k
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No gaming console is capable of running games 4K/30 fps yet.

And it's misleading to lead the general consumer believe that your PS4 pro is magically doing so.

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#34  Edited By PSP107
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@T-razor1:"I swear I feel like punching a wall when I read sh*t like this.."

If you really feel this way, then you have some serious issues.

@kvally:"Because Sony says so."

Is that the bottomline?

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#35 benny_boy98
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@kvally: hahahhahahahhahahhahhaahha

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#36 deactivated-583c85dc33d18
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God damnit, Sony

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#37 Zero_epyon
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@navyguy21 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@T-razor1 said:

So which one is it cows?

Your Lord has spoken. Pick one because you can't have it both ways:

A. We apologize...Xbox One games run at 1080p.

B. No our savior is wrong. Xbox One games run at 1080p upscaled. It is no different here...you cannot say it runs at 4K. It runs at 4K upscaled

Side note: Who the heck thinks Andrew House is actually liked or likable? I can't stand that dude.

But his goatee is all man :P

ugh lol

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#38  Edited By supergokublitz
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No offence to any that swings that way, but this guy and cerny are a right pair of fruits.

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SDC - Sony's Damage Control

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#40  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@navyguy21 said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Andrew House doing his best Aaron Greenberg impersonation.

You are doing your best dynamiteflop impersonation.

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/396066138875912192

You can't make this stuff up.

We need you back.

Please dont encourage him to go back full cow lol. Ive been thinking about adding him on PSN/XBL, dont ruin it lol.

That said, I agree with you guys.

I will say that anyone who takes what EITHER CEO seriously is so far gone they cant be saved anyway.

We all knew it was BS when they talked about upscaling at the conference just like the guy called out greenberg

We need to start thinking for ourselves and stop marching to a console beat

He'll be back. He is one of our most faithful.

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#41 Pedro
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How many people can tell the difference? Seriously? Who freaking cares if its upscaled especially when the vast majority of viewers would not be able to discern the difference? This is one of the bullshit issues that people love to spin into something bigger.

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#42 Howmakewood
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Well even xbox one runs more games on 1080p than pro does on 4k

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#43 deactivated-5a8875b6c648f
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Lol, upscaling.

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#44 Nonstop-Madness
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It's about as misleading as Microsoft and Sony saying that 360, PS3, Xbox One and PS4 are full HD consoles when not every game is running at 1080p. The Pro is definitely capable of running 4K games, just not all.

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#45 fyron256
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@Pedro:

Agreed but you can thank the Rabid cows in the community that started this crap three years ago.

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#46 Ten_Pints
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It is misleading, they should state the native resolution before upscaling not to be misleading.

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#47  Edited By ronvalencia
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@T-razor1 said:

STFU House

Checkerboard rendering is not up-scaled nor it's native. Checkerboard rendering still has 4K framebuffer with odd or even pixels being skipped in a checkerboard layout. The missing pixels are then interpolated by neighbouring pixels and temporal (using past frame buffers). Odd or even rendered pixels are native.

Checkerboard rendering superior to Kill Zone Shadowfall's line based neighbouring interpolation and upscaling (copy pixels to fit target resolution).

Rendering is all about creating the pixel information.

Odd or even rendered pixels are native resolution.

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#48 darkangel115
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it's Faux-K not 4K

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#49 ronvalencia
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@darkangel115 said:

it's Faux-K not 4K

Rendering is all about creating the pixel information.

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