Am I the only one that thinks Halo 3 will be AA ed?

At 8.8

The beta is good fun but it feels too simliar to the game, I've waited for 3 years back during Midnight.

I knew they wouldn't stray too far from the H2 MP online formula but this is like taking a bottle of ice cold Coca-Cola and pouring into a new shiny can and charging for more then it's worth.

It's delicious and refreshing but repackaged.  

It'll be a good game just not AAA.

The Beta feels a lot different then Halo 2. It looks similar but that will all change. xXHackettXx

really? I think the "beta" feels exactly like Halo 2...

I think it will be AA'd too, and I really wouldent surprised if overall it gets AA (GR AA)  

At 8.8

The beta is good fun but it feels too simliar to the game, I've waited for 3 years back during Midnight.

I knew they wouldn't stray too far from the H2 MP online formula but this is like taking a bottle of ice cold Coca-Cola and pouring into a new shiny can and charging for more then it's worth.

It's delicious and refreshing but repackaged.

It'll be a good game just not AAA.

SpecialForcesOp

Why change the formula when its not broken?  Its still a series and you never just go out and totally change the series on the 3rd game into something totally new.  You refine and fix problems and add new cool stuff to make the game the best it can be in the series.  If you go to far from the regular game your going to be alienating a lot of fans just to get new fans, and a good example of this is say AOE 3.  Ensemble changed the game up a lot to make it more fast paced and totally striped it of a lot of micromanaging, now that was a good idea to add more action to the game but overall it totally killed the game for me as a fan of AOE 1&2.  Anyway this is all my opinion so take it with a grain of salt but I dont think I am the only one that thinks this. 

Also take note that what you see in the beta isnt even all the weapons, equipment or vehicles plus you still can play as the elites in the final game along with using the full Video tool.

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At 8.8

The beta is good fun but it feels too simliar to the game, I've waited for 3 years back during Midnight.

I knew they wouldn't stray too far from the H2 MP online formula but this is like taking a bottle of ice cold Coca-Cola and pouring into a new shiny can and charging for more then it's worth.

It's delicious and refreshing but repackaged.

It'll be a good game just not AAA.

justforlotr2004

Why change the formula when its not broken?  Its still a series and you never just go out and totally change the series on the 3rd game into something totally new.  You refine and fix problems and add new cool stuff to make the game the best it can be in the series.  If you go to far from the regular game your going to be alienating a lot of fans just to get new fans, and a good example of this is say AOE 3.  Ensemble changed the game up a lot to make it more fast paced and totally striped it of a lot of micromanaging, now that was a good idea to add more action to the game but overall it totally killed the game for me as a fan of AOE 1&2.  Anyway this is all my opinion so take it with a grain of salt but I dont think I am the only one that thinks this. 

Also take note that what you see in the beta isnt even all the weapons, equipment or vehicles plus you still can play as the elites in the final game along with using the full Video tool.

Has anyone realised yet that this game will have a single player campaign? The multiplayer hasn't been changed much because it works, simple as. The campaign will be the make or break for this game. If it has a good story, it'll easily be AAA. I'll take any bet that says it isn't going to be, because this game just will not fail.neoreloaded

who buys Halo for The SP? Also, all of you expecting things to change alot are going to be dissapointed. the beta Still has about two weeks left, which is only going to leave them with 6 weeks to finish anything. that would be called crunch time, and they are pretty m uch going ot focus on fuctionality issues rather than graphics.

Halo 3 isnt Bad, its just not better. You kind of expect Next gen entries of a franchise to better. Halo 3 just feel slike Bungie is just shoveling out an HD version of a game from 3 years ago, and banking on any idiot with a 360 buying it just becasue it is what it is, and not becasue they improved anything.

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"]

At 8.8

The beta is good fun but it feels too simliar to the game, I've waited for 3 years back during Midnight.

I knew they wouldn't stray too far from the H2 MP online formula but this is like taking a bottle of ice cold Coca-Cola and pouring into a new shiny can and charging for more then it's worth.

It's delicious and refreshing but repackaged.

It'll be a good game just not AAA.

Vandalvideo

Why change the formula when its not broken? Its still a series and you never just go out and totally change the series on the 3rd game into something totally new. You refine and fix problems and add new cool stuff to make the game the best it can be in the series. If you go to far from the regular game your going to be alienating a lot of fans just to get new fans, and a good example of this is say AOE 3. Ensemble changed the game up a lot to make it more fast paced and totally striped it of a lot of micromanaging, now that was a good idea to add more action to the game but overall it totally killed the game for me as a fan of AOE 1&2. Anyway this is all my opinion so take it with a grain of salt but I dont think I am the only one that thinks this.

Also take note that what you see in the beta isnt even all the weapons, equipment or vehicles plus you still can play as the elites in the final game along with using the full Video tool.

No TP didnt add anything to the game at all that was new it had the same type puzzles it always had and didnt even add the wiimote into the ordeal at all except moving around for the most part.  Not to mention Zelda has been around for like over 20 years so its more redone than almost any game.  If you look at the idea Im talking about its like Mario, you got the same formula you just fix things and add more too it to spice it up and you got another great game in the series. 

[QUOTE="neoreloaded"]Has anyone realised yet that this game will have a single player campaign? The multiplayer hasn't been changed much because it works, simple as. The campaign will be the make or break for this game. If it has a good story, it'll easily be AAA. I'll take any bet that says it isn't going to be, because this game just will not fail.jigglebilly1983

who buys Halo for The SP? Also, all of you expecting things to change alot are going to be dissapointed. the beta Still has about two weeks left, which is only going to leave them with 6 weeks to finish anything. that would be called crunch time, and they are pretty m uch going ot focus on fuctionality issues rather than graphics.

Halo 3 isnt Bad, its just not better. You kind of expect Next gen entries of a franchise to better. Halo 3 just feel slike Bungie is just shoveling out an HD version of a game from 3 years ago, and banking on any idiot with a 360 buying it just becasue it is what it is, and not becasue they improved anything.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"]

At 8.8

The beta is good fun but it feels too simliar to the game, I've waited for 3 years back during Midnight.

I knew they wouldn't stray too far from the H2 MP online formula but this is like taking a bottle of ice cold Coca-Cola and pouring into a new shiny can and charging for more then it's worth.

It's delicious and refreshing but repackaged.

It'll be a good game just not AAA.

justforlotr2004

Why change the formula when its not broken? Its still a series and you never just go out and totally change the series on the 3rd game into something totally new. You refine and fix problems and add new cool stuff to make the game the best it can be in the series. If you go to far from the regular game your going to be alienating a lot of fans just to get new fans, and a good example of this is say AOE 3. Ensemble changed the game up a lot to make it more fast paced and totally striped it of a lot of micromanaging, now that was a good idea to add more action to the game but overall it totally killed the game for me as a fan of AOE 1&2. Anyway this is all my opinion so take it with a grain of salt but I dont think I am the only one that thinks this.

Also take note that what you see in the beta isnt even all the weapons, equipment or vehicles plus you still can play as the elites in the final game along with using the full Video tool.

No TP didnt add anything to the game at all that was new it had the same type puzzles it always had and didnt even add the wiimote into the ordeal at all except moving around for the most part.  Not to mention Zelda has been around for like over 20 years so its more redone than almost any game.  If you look at the idea Im talking about its like Mario, you got the same formula you just fix things and add more too it to spice it up and you got another great game in the series. 

[QUOTE="neoreloaded"]Has anyone realised yet that this game will have a single player campaign? The multiplayer hasn't been changed much because it works, simple as. The campaign will be the make or break for this game. If it has a good story, it'll easily be AAA. I'll take any bet that says it isn't going to be, because this game just will not fail.jigglebilly1983

who buys Halo for The SP? Also, all of you expecting things to change alot are going to be dissapointed. the beta Still has about two weeks left, which is only going to leave them with 6 weeks to finish anything. that would be called crunch time, and they are pretty m uch going ot focus on fuctionality issues rather than graphics.

Halo 3 isnt Bad, its just not better. You kind of expect Next gen entries of a franchise to better. Halo 3 just feel slike Bungie is just shoveling out an HD version of a game from 3 years ago, and banking on any idiot with a 360 buying it just becasue it is what it is, and not becasue they improved anything.

No, you ain't alone, based on the beta, it doesn't even deserve an 8.8. fresherfish

Based on the Beta? That's like trying to review a game based on its demo but twice as worse. :lol:

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="SpecialForcesOp"]

At 8.8

The beta is good fun but it feels too simliar to the game, I've waited for 3 years back during Midnight.

I knew they wouldn't stray too far from the H2 MP online formula but this is like taking a bottle of ice cold Coca-Cola and pouring into a new shiny can and charging for more then it's worth.

It's delicious and refreshing but repackaged.

It'll be a good game just not AAA.

Vandalvideo

Why change the formula when its not broken? Its still a series and you never just go out and totally change the series on the 3rd game into something totally new. You refine and fix problems and add new cool stuff to make the game the best it can be in the series. If you go to far from the regular game your going to be alienating a lot of fans just to get new fans, and a good example of this is say AOE 3. Ensemble changed the game up a lot to make it more fast paced and totally striped it of a lot of micromanaging, now that was a good idea to add more action to the game but overall it totally killed the game for me as a fan of AOE 1&2. Anyway this is all my opinion so take it with a grain of salt but I dont think I am the only one that thinks this.

Also take note that what you see in the beta isnt even all the weapons, equipment or vehicles plus you still can play as the elites in the final game along with using the full Video tool.

No TP didnt add anything to the game at all that was new it had the same type puzzles it always had and didnt even add the wiimote into the ordeal at all except moving around for the most part. Not to mention Zelda has been around for like over 20 years so its more redone than almost any game. If you look at the idea Im talking about its like Mario, you got the same formula you just fix things and add more too it to spice it up and you got another great game in the series.

Eh idk the Wolf mechanic sorta striped you of a lot of the stuff like the Zelda's equpiment and you could only dig and ram stuff as a dog.  It was a nice idea but it didnt really add too much stuff new other than a new character model and a little bit diffrent controls, it didnt change anything drasticly that made you think it was actually needed. 

No, you ain't alone, based on the beta, it doesn't even deserve an 8.8. fresherfish

Based on the beta that doesnt have the campaign, or all the multiplayer maps maps, guns, epuipment, vehicles or features?  So your saying the final game should get like around an 9.8?  Because if you think a buggy stripped beta gets that high then your going to be blown away come the final game.

I agree, its gonna have the same problem that BF2142 had, its way to similar to its predecesor, it may be an improvement, but that doesnt give it an AAA score automaticlly.cobrax75

People don't realize that this game has a singleplayer with depth and with a story unlike Battlefield. 

justforlotr: The same could be said for the shield grenade, man cannon, and almost every other tweak to Halo 3.Vandalvideo

Not really, for the most part the wolf thing could be compaired to the Arbiter in Halo 2. 

[QUOTE="fresherfish"]No, you ain't alone, based on the beta, it doesn't even deserve an 8.8. justforlotr2004

Based on the beta that doesnt have the campaign, or all the multiplayer maps maps, guns, epuipment, vehicles or features?  So your saying the final game should get like around an 9.8?  Because if you think a buggy stripped beta gets that high then your going to be blown away come the final game.

"Based on the beta." Can you guys not read? What else do I have to judge it on at the moment? If Bungie didn't want their game judged, they shouldn't have released an uncomplete game.

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[QUOTE="fresherfish"]No, you ain't alone, based on the beta, it doesn't even deserve an 8.8. fresherfish

Based on the beta that doesnt have the campaign, or all the multiplayer maps maps, guns, epuipment, vehicles or features? So your saying the final game should get like around an 9.8? Because if you think a buggy stripped beta gets that high then your going to be blown away come the final game.

"Based on the beta." Can you guys not read? What else do I have to judge it on at the moment? If Bungie didn't want their game judged, they shouldn't have released an uncomplete game.

Guess thats fair enough, but just bored of people trying to base Halo 3 on the beta.  The final game could get that score but who knows, we will see.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]justforlotr: The same could be said for the shield grenade, man cannon, and almost every other tweak to Halo 3.justforlotr2004

Not really, for the most part the wolf thing could be compaired to the Arbiter in Halo 2. 

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]justforlotr: The same could be said for the shield grenade, man cannon, and almost every other tweak to Halo 3.Vandalvideo

Not really, for the most part the wolf thing could be compaired to the Arbiter in Halo 2.

Actually if you have played the beta you wouldnt say that equipment is a minor change.  The equipment has helped me do stuff in the game that just wasnt possible in the games before it.  You keep speaking of the Shield grenade as if its the only thing there is, there is going to be over 5 diffrent pieces of equipment along with also being able to now take turrets off the ground and carry them(though thats sorta like a new gun but a little diffrent).   Also all the tweaks they did including changing your starting gun totally changed the gameplay all together. 

Equipment:

Bubble shield
Portable gravity lift
Trip mine
Power drainer
Radar scrambler
and more that havnt been announced/leaked/shown yet.

Im not saying these changes are revolutionary but they are more than just minor changes. 

[QUOTE="fresherfish"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="fresherfish"]No, you ain't alone, based on the beta, it doesn't even deserve an 8.8. justforlotr2004

Based on the beta that doesnt have the campaign, or all the multiplayer maps maps, guns, epuipment, vehicles or features? So your saying the final game should get like around an 9.8? Because if you think a buggy stripped beta gets that high then your going to be blown away come the final game.

"Based on the beta." Can you guys not read? What else do I have to judge it on at the moment? If Bungie didn't want their game judged, they shouldn't have released an uncomplete game.

Guess thats fair enough, but just bored of people trying to base Halo 3 on the beta.  The final game could get that score but who knows, we will see.

Yeah, it's not a bash. Thats how I truly feel. I happen to be a huge Halo CE fan(best game on Xbox). I'll definitely reconsider when the finished game comes out cause I'm looking forward to the single player, but I preferred CE multi to Halo 2 multi. Thats probably why I didn't enjoy the beta.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]justforlotr: The same could be said for the shield grenade, man cannon, and almost every other tweak to Halo 3.justforlotr2004

Not really, for the most part the wolf thing could be compaired to the Arbiter in Halo 2.

Actually if you have played the beta you wouldnt say that equipment is a minor change.  The equipment has helped me do stuff in the game that just wasnt possible in the games before it.  You keep speaking of the Shield grenade as if its the only thing there is, there is going to be over 5 diffrent pieces of equipment along with also being able to now take turrets off the ground and carry them(though thats sorta like a new gun but a little diffrent).   Also all the tweaks they did including changing your starting gun totally changed the gameplay all together. 

Equipment:

Bubble shield
Portable gravity lift
Trip mine
Power drainer
Radar scrambler
and more that havnt been announced/leaked/shown yet.

Im not saying these changes are revolutionary but they are more than just minor changes. 

I buy Halo for the SP. The excellent multiplayer is just an added bonus.

MP to me is never the main focus of a game, the campaign makes it or breaks it baby, and I think Halo 3's campaign will be amazing. 

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]justforlotr: The same could be said for the shield grenade, man cannon, and almost every other tweak to Halo 3.Vandalvideo

Not really, for the most part the wolf thing could be compaired to the Arbiter in Halo 2.

Actually if you have played the beta you wouldnt say that equipment is a minor change. The equipment has helped me do stuff in the game that just wasnt possible in the games before it. You keep speaking of the Shield grenade as if its the only thing there is, there is going to be over 5 diffrent pieces of equipment along with also being able to now take turrets off the ground and carry them(though thats sorta like a new gun but a little diffrent). Also all the tweaks they did including changing your starting gun totally changed the gameplay all together.

Equipment:

Bubble shield
Portable gravity lift
Trip mine
Power drainer
Radar scrambler
and more that havnt been announced/leaked/shown yet.

Im not saying these changes are revolutionary but they are more than just minor changes.

Well your not using them correctly if you think of them as just a side grade.  If you use them correctly they can add a lot to your strategy and can mean winning or losing a game.  For example if you use the power drainer at the right point you can either protect a base as they walk through the door or in say VIP you drop the drainer to take down the shield fast than kill them.  

I mean sure they can just add them as weapons but then you could only carry that and 1 other weapon just like the other halo's, in this you can carry 2 weapons plus that which is an addition and not just another weapon.  To be honest you can say just about everything is a minor change if you put it into perspective that everything is just done by a simple push of a button, they just add a few things here a few things there for any game to be diffrent. 

Judging a game by only it's multiplayer BETA... makes perfect sense. You have only seen a mere glipse of what is to come of the multiplayer, plus you haven't even seen the single player.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]justforlotr: The same could be said for the shield grenade, man cannon, and almost every other tweak to Halo 3.justforlotr2004

Not really, for the most part the wolf thing could be compaired to the Arbiter in Halo 2.

Actually if you have played the beta you wouldnt say that equipment is a minor change. The equipment has helped me do stuff in the game that just wasnt possible in the games before it. You keep speaking of the Shield grenade as if its the only thing there is, there is going to be over 5 diffrent pieces of equipment along with also being able to now take turrets off the ground and carry them(though thats sorta like a new gun but a little diffrent). Also all the tweaks they did including changing your starting gun totally changed the gameplay all together.

Equipment:

Bubble shield
Portable gravity lift
Trip mine
Power drainer
Radar scrambler
and more that havnt been announced/leaked/shown yet.

Im not saying these changes are revolutionary but they are more than just minor changes.

Well your not using them correctly if you think of them as just a side grade.  If you use them correctly they can add a lot to your strategy and can mean winning or losing a game.  For example if you use the power drainer at the right point you can either protect a base as they walk through the door or in say VIP you drop the drainer to take down the shield fast than kill them.  

I mean sure they can just add them as weapons but then you could only carry that and 1 other weapon just like the other halo's, in this you can carry 2 weapons plus that which is an addition and not just another weapon.  To be honest you can say just about everything is a minor change if you put it into perspective that everything is just done by a simple push of a button, they just add a few things here a few things there for any game to be diffrent. 

4 player co-op says youre wrongnybritboy

The Beta is boring as sin, so if the story and single player portion is not spectactular, then i don't see it doing as good as part 1 and 2.   But if the rumor turns out to be true about co-op it could be halo 3's saving grace...    But i prey its not split screen crap, and its actually full screen each person there own tv type co-op. ( system link, and XBL )

[QUOTE="xXHackettXx"]The Beta feels a lot different then Halo 2. It looks similar but that will all change. cheatymcshifty

really? I think the "beta" feels exactly like Halo 2...

I think it will be AA'd too, and I really wouldent surprised if overall it gets AA (GR AA)

By just playing the Beta alone, I think it should get a AAA.  I've had more fun with the Beta than any game on the 360 so far.  I don't know if the expert reviewers will agree with me or not.  The gameplay formula hasn't change tremendously, but the same fun factor remains.

Halo will be big and sell well no matter what the review gets.

Zelda: TP...no game is safe *Jeff: Muahaha.*hyruledweller

Jeff while on the spot show didn't seem too excited while playing Shotty Sniper on Snowbound.