2 sepearate versions of the Nextbox incoming?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/22/report-two-versions-of-the-next-xbox

A new report suggests that Microsoft's next generation Xbox will come in two very different models.

The first is the console we're all expecting, providing true next-generation gaming experiences, while the other will be a more affordable unit aimed at the casual market. The latter is said to use Windows 8 as the basis of its operating system, and won't be able to run the latest triple-A titles, but will support downloadable casual games from Xbox Live.

So it will function more like a set-top box, or an Apple TV, allowing a greater number of consumers to experience the console's growing range of entertainment apps. Apparently, the next-gen Xbox will be an 'always on' device that starts up almost instantly, letting you resume your game with little downtime.

This latest report comes from The Verge, which cites "multiple sources familiar with Redmond's plans". (Redmond, if you were wondering, is the location of Microsoft's head quarters.) It also claims that this twin SKU approach is part of a larger Microsoft strategy to ensure that its core Xbox software is 'scalable' to run on a variety of devices. There's even talk of making it so that a phone could be capable of delivering a full Xbox Live experience. It has also looked into including licensing core Xbox functionality into television sets.

It's believed that both devices will be announced sometime in 2013 and made available before the end of the year.

Of course we lnow by default Cows will pretend it's a bad idea, unless Sony announces the same exact thing......DISCUSS

And people think the Wii U is confusing to consumers, this would be much worse.layton2012

[QUOTE="layton2012"]And people think the Wii U is confusing to consumers, this would be much worse.silversix_

You would be wrong there. Kinect has made it the same and that was MS's goal when they released Kinect, to get into the casual gaming market. Having two versions would not only cause confusion. I'm willing to bet that if the casual "720" sells much much more than the hardcore "720" MS is going to drop the hardcore altogether.

[QUOTE="layton2012"]And people think the Wii U is confusing to consumers, this would be much worse.silversix_

I recently got rid of my xbox360 because of intense dissatisfaction, so i don't really care how many versions of the Nextbox they come out with....i am not interested.

I recently got rid of my xbox360 because of intense dissatisfaction, so i don't really care how many versions of the Nextbox they come out with....i am not interested.

Videodogg

smart man.

There are quite a few threads on this as it's very old SW news. Today is 11-24, and you are linking an arficle from 11-21, which was posted many times on 11-21 and 11-22 in SW.

Regarding this rumor, we'll see what happens. Obviously, I'm going to get the Premium model of the 720 given the choice at launch.

Also, Nextbox/Xbox 2 came out in 2005. We now know it as the 360.

Xbox 3, 720, and Durango are the names for the third Xbox.

[QUOTE="layton2012"]And people think the Wii U is confusing to consumers, this would be much worse.silversix_

Uh, you didn't just imply that the Wii U and Wii U Deluxe are confusing to gamers did you?

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

I recently got rid of my xbox360 because of intense dissatisfaction, so i don't really care how many versions of the Nextbox they come out with....i am not interested.

Cheleman

smart man.

I can see many confused parents buying the wrong version for their kids xD

[QUOTE="layton2012"]And people think the Wii U is confusing to consumers, this would be much worse.silversix_

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="layton2012"]And people think the Wii U is confusing to consumers, this would be much worse.Zophar87

Uh, you didn't just imply that the Wii U and Wii U Deluxe are confusing to gamers did you?

Microsoft doesn't seem to know who they're targeting next gen.

That's why I go with the PS brand always. You know Sony is never gonna disappoint core gamers ;)

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]its not confusing to gamers. 360's crowd and Wii's crowd aren't the same. soccer mom's would get confused but not a gamer that is hyped for Far Cry 3 for example. if they send the message right (its MS so it will mostly be right) it could be great.

layton2012

Uh, you didn't just imply that the Wii U and Wii U Deluxe are confusing to gamers did you?

Okay. Thanks for clarifying.

Bet everyone in japan is excited knowing this

Microsoft doesn't seem to know who they're targeting next gen.

That's why I go with the PS brand always. You know Sony is never gonna disappoint core gamers ;)

nitekids2004

I'm sorry, but a console that doesn't play AAA games and a console that DOES? Should this rumor be true, then MS IS no doubt going to be hit with the "third console curse".

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Microsoft doesn't seem to know who they're targeting next gen.

That's why I go with the PS brand always. You know Sony is never gonna disappoint core gamers ;)

WilliamRLBaker

Anyone who studied a bit of marketing knows this is going to be a disaster.

I can see many confused parents buying the wrong version for their kids xD

BattleSpectre

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Microsoft doesn't seem to know who they're targeting next gen.

That's why I go with the PS brand always. You know Sony is never gonna disappoint core gamers ;)

nitekids2004

Anyone who studied a bit of marketing knows this is going to be a disaster.

lol righttttt as compared to the disaster that was multiple sku's for both the 360 and ps3 *the supposed always core you touted* but please do remind me how is the ipad/ipod/iphone line....3 different products that use almost all the exact same software but with a few differing abilities..

but I do love the plathoria of history your drawing from... *none*

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="layton2012"]And people think the Wii U is confusing to consumers, this would be much worse.layton2012

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] .....they don't know whom they are targeting because they are releasing 2 different versions targeting 2 different groups? WilliamRLBaker

Anyone who studied a bit of marketing knows this is going to be a disaster.

lol righttttt as compared to the disaster that was multiple sku's for both the 360 and ps3 *the supposed always core you touted* but please do remind me how is the ipad/ipod/iphone line....3 different products that use almost all the exact same software but with a few differing abilities..

but I do love the plathoria of history your drawing from... *none*

The multiple SKUs for 360 and PS3 are a different situation. You can both play core and casual games whatever SKUs you buy.

Btw, Iphone did cannibalize Ipod's marketshare while the Ipad is a different thing altogether (tablet).

I can see the same thing happening here. Microsoft should just roll this into one system.

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="silversix_"]its not confusing to gamers. 360's crowd and Wii's crowd aren't the same. soccer mom's would get confused but not a gamer that is hyped for Far Cry 3 for example. if they send the message right (its MS so it will mostly be right) it could be great.

El_Garbanzo

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Anyone who studied a bit of marketing knows this is going to be a disaster.

nitekids2004

lol righttttt as compared to the disaster that was multiple sku's for both the 360 and ps3 *the supposed always core you touted* but please do remind me how is the ipad/ipod/iphone line....3 different products that use almost all the exact same software but with a few differing abilities..

but I do love the plathoria of history your drawing from... *none*

The multiple SKUs for 360 and PS3 are a different situation. You can both play core and casual games whatever SKUs you buy.

Btw, Iphone did cannibalize Ipod's marketshare while the Ipad is a different thing altogether (tablet).

I can see the same thing happening here. Microsoft should just roll this into one system.

LMFAO! It's going to be an awfully good time here in System Wars if this turns out to be true. Watching what few first party development that MS has for it's Xbox brand get split up for different SKUs. I'm wishing MS all the luck in the world with the new casual friendly branding they are going for. The hardcore machine will be junk within a couple years if the casual SKU takes off like the Wii did. ROTFLMAO!

*cheers* to my Lemming friends. To another generation of talking more about multiplats and buying Call of Duty.

[QUOTE="El_Garbanzo"]

[QUOTE="layton2012"] Sure at first it won't be a problem, but once it releases Halo 5 or the next big game that even casual gamers will want, those so called casual gamers won't be too happy when Halo 5 will not work on their casual next box. It is a mistake, I don't care if this was Sony r Nintendo, this seems idiotic and will confuse consumers.layton2012

LMFAO! It's going to be an awfully good time here in System Wars if this turns out to be true. Watching what few first party development that MS has for it's Xbox brand get split up for different SKUs. I'm wishing MS all the luck in the world with the new casual friendly branding they are going for. The hardcore machine will be junk within a couple years if the casual SKU takes off like the Wii did. ROTFLMAO!

*cheers* to my Lemming friends. To another generation of talking more about multiplats and buying Call of Duty.

Shewgenja

That seems like an awful lot for MS to try to do at once

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Anyone who studied a bit of marketing knows this is going to be a disaster.

nitekids2004

lol righttttt as compared to the disaster that was multiple sku's for both the 360 and ps3 *the supposed always core you touted* but please do remind me how is the ipad/ipod/iphone line....3 different products that use almost all the exact same software but with a few differing abilities..

but I do love the plathoria of history your drawing from... *none*

The multiple SKUs for 360 and PS3 are a different situation. You can both play core and casual games whatever SKUs you buy.

Btw, Iphone did cannibalize Ipod's marketshare while the Ipad is a different thing altogether (tablet).

I can see the same thing happening here. Microsoft should just roll this into one system.

Definitely a bad idea to split your userbase that much. It's the same reason why Nintendo never released a "Wii HD" 3-4 years despite all the theories that they would.1PMrFister

[QUOTE="BattleSpectre"]

I can see many confused parents buying the wrong version for their kids xD

PSP107

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="silversix_"]its not confusing to gamers. 360's crowd and Wii's crowd aren't the same. soccer mom's would get confused but not a gamer that is hyped for Far Cry 3 for example. if they send the message right (its MS so it will mostly be right) it could be great.

El_Garbanzo

That is what they will learn Im afraid.

[QUOTE="El_Garbanzo"]

[QUOTE="layton2012"] Sure at first it won't be a problem, but once it releases Halo 5 or the next big game that even casual gamers will want, those so called casual gamers won't be too happy when Halo 5 will not work on their casual next box. It is a mistake, I don't care if this was Sony r Nintendo, this seems idiotic and will confuse consumers.BlbecekBobecek

That is what they will learn Im afraid.

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="El_Garbanzo"]I dont see this being a problem at all. If someone buys a blu ray movie when he only has a dvd player, it's his own damn fault. Cant expect giant corporations to hold everyones hand just because some moron consumer cant tell left from right. Theyll learn eventually not to touch Microsoft's concole again.

delta3074

That is what they will learn Im afraid.

The average Joe Consumer buys xbox for his kids (of course the cheaper one), then a few months later buys the next halo because everyone talks about it and finds out it doesnt work. Do you think he will learn that there are two different kinds of xbox and he bought one that is not focused on core games blahblahblahblah, or do you think he just gets pissed and buys a Playstation next time?

Confusing customers is not a wise business decision.

It's Microsoft, not surprising.

2 different systems?hmmm

failosoft

my first xbox insult..lol..enjoy it cows.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

That is what they will learn Im afraid.

BlbecekBobecek

The average Joe Consumer buys xbox for his kids (of course the cheaper one), then a few months later buys the next halo because everyone talks about it and finds out it doesnt work. Do you think he will learn that there are two different kinds of xbox and he bought one that is not focused on core games blahblahblahblah, or do you think he just gets pissed and buys a Playstation next time?

Well the the casual version of ht enext box could share multiplats with the Wii U, while PS4 and 720 have their own. :P

Confusing customers is not a wise business decision.

It's Microsoft, not surprising.

GamerwillzPS

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Confusing customers is not a wise business decision.

It's Microsoft, not surprising.

delta3074

[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="silversix_"]its not confusing to gamers. 360's crowd and Wii's crowd aren't the same. soccer mom's would get confused but not a gamer that is hyped for Far Cry 3 for example. if they send the message right (its MS so it will mostly be right) it could be great.

Wouldn't surprise me. I'll just be buying the version with full capabilities.