10MB free AA in FULL EFFECT now. PS3 ports will start to show it's weakness

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

OMGZ, jaggies=stupid games!!!!ranger_waha

If you actually take time to notice whether or not there are jaggies in games like GeoW and VF5, maybe you shouldn't have bought the game in the first place.nyoroism

Just listen to the review on VF5 Jegg even says you may see a jag or snag here and there.

Anyway. I'm just saying that a lot of Sony guys had been saying so wheres you free AA blah blah blah! Well it seems now the developers have put there finger on that free 10MB for AA. And now we are seeing games smooth as a babies butt on 360 now.

Something your not going to see in PS3 games. AA issues have been an issue with all 3 PS systems. Remember how Sony lied about the PS2 can do AA when everyone said why all the jag fest.

i used to dont care about mind jaggies much, but the wii is just too much......zelda blurred princess is a total jaggfestGears360

I do not get it... most PC games these days are made specifically with Nvidia GPUs in mind, yet for almost all time, ATI have been superior. I have never liked Nvidia.
foxhound_fox

Why Sony left this AA issue in the dark again for the PS3 is just crazy. I mean sure it won't be that bad being you can run in 720P But it will look a little rough around the edges compared to 360 games.

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

GamerGuy07360

I really didn't see a whole lot of jaggies in Resistance or RR7, I'll check VF5 when I get it today. I agree the 10MB of high speed RAM coupled witht he unified system memory was a smooth move, but seems to me, PS3 games do a pretty good job of delivering a crisp clear picture with minimal amounts of aliasing. Of course I run everything in HD, so maybe it's more of an issue for SD sets.

I really don't care about the ports from 360, most of them were from EA, and I really haven't bought an EA game in years. They make crap.

Why Sony left this AA issue in the dark again for the PS3 is just crazy. I mean sure it won't be that bad being you can run in 720P But it will look a little rough around the edges compared to 360 games.GamerGuy07360

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]Why Sony left this AA issue in the dark again for the PS3 is just crazy. I mean sure it won't be that bad being you can run in 720P But it will look a little rough around the edges compared to 360 games.foxhound_fox

I saw a lot of jaggies in GeoW. But then other games like Rainbow Six: Vegas don't have any significant aliasing. Overall GeoW is a bit more impressive looking but I'm hopeful that in time just about all 360 games won't have any significant aliasing.

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

GamerGuy07360

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

asdasd

No jaggies in Crackdown?

Look at the Cement Railing infront of the character and the top of the yellow building on the right. Whats that I see? Jaggies

No jaggies in GeOW?

Look at the Statue, the building tops, the poles, and the car hood. Whats that I see? Jaggies

Your pics are TRASH.

First of all my Crackdown looks WAY BETTER then that on my HD TV. I mean those graphics in that pic are bland mine are way more detailed. So IDNO where you got that pic. But it's BOGUS on a cheap SDTV or very low res internet pic.

Same with your other pic same deal. They look FAR better on a good HDTV.

[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

GamerGuy07360

No jaggies in Crackdown?

Look at the Cement Railing infront of the character and the top of the yellow building on the right. Whats that I see? Jaggies

No jaggies in GeOW?

Look at the Statue, the building tops, the poles, and the car hood. Whats that I see? Jaggies

Your pics are TRASH.

First of all my Crackdown looks WAY BETTER then that on my HD TV. I mean those graphics in that pic are bland mine are way more detailed. So IDNO where you got that pic. But it's BOGUS on a cheap SDTV or very low res internet pic.

Same with your other pic same deal. They look FAR better on a good HDTV.

[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

GamerGuy07360

No jaggies in Crackdown?

Look at the Cement Railing infront of the character and the top of the yellow building on the right. Whats that I see? Jaggies

No jaggies in GeOW?

Look at the Statue, the building tops, the poles, and the car hood. Whats that I see? Jaggies

Your pics are TRASH.

First of all my Crackdown looks WAY BETTER then that on my HD TV. I mean those graphics in that pic are bland mine are way more detailed. So IDNO where you got that pic. But it's BOGUS on a cheap SDTV or very low res internet pic.

Same with your other pic same deal. They look FAR better on a good HDTV.

Again it's a well know FACT that if your posting low res pics from the net. THESE are not true reprsitations. Becuase the game on a HDTV is higher res and the graphics are tightened up way more and those low res jaggies from the internet pics are GONE. Nice try though.

Again Crackdown on my TV the walls everything is way more clear crisp much brighter shineier everything. AND NO JAGGIES.

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"][QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

asdasd

No jaggies in Crackdown?

Look at the Cement Railing infront of the character and the top of the yellow building on the right. Whats that I see? Jaggies

No jaggies in GeOW?

Look at the Statue, the building tops, the poles, and the car hood. Whats that I see? Jaggies

Your pics are TRASH.

First of all my Crackdown looks WAY BETTER then that on my HD TV. I mean those graphics in that pic are bland mine are way more detailed. So IDNO where you got that pic. But it's BOGUS on a cheap SDTV or very low res internet pic.

Same with your other pic same deal. They look FAR better on a good HDTV.

No what i'm saying is most of us have known and accept that pics from low res internet are not what it really looks like in the game on a good tv.

No what i'm saying is most of us have known and accept that pics from low res internet are not what it really looks like in the game on a good tv.

GamerGuy07360

No what i'm saying is most of us have known and accept that pics from low res internet are not what it really looks like in the game on a good tv.GamerGuy07360

What you said was I dare you to show a game with any Jaggies.... Those pictures show you a game with jaggies...

This thread is pretty pointless because all games have them...some where some portion of the game isnt as smooth as it could be...most times the jagged edges arent that bad but they are there...and honestly what are you basising any of your claims on?

You have a 360 and you play it on your HDTV and decide that somehow Sony has issues with jaggies?....Have you played a PS3 on your HDTV?

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

No what i'm saying is most of us have known and accept that pics from low res internet are not what it really looks like in the game on a good tv.

asdasd

WRONG

YOU READY?

Notice a close up so NO DISPUTE. And this is what it looks like in the game. Look at the walls the ledge JAGGIES I THINK NOT!

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/img_3943506.html

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"][QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

asdasd

No jaggies in Crackdown?

Look at the Cement Railing infront of the character and the top of the yellow building on the right. Whats that I see? Jaggies

No jaggies in GeOW?

Look at the Statue, the building tops, the poles, and the car hood. Whats that I see? Jaggies

Your pics are TRASH.

First of all my Crackdown looks WAY BETTER then that on my HD TV. I mean those graphics in that pic are bland mine are way more detailed. So IDNO where you got that pic. But it's BOGUS on a cheap SDTV or very low res internet pic.

Same with your other pic same deal. They look FAR better on a good HDTV.

And for you my friend try again this is what it looks like FOR REAL. NOW SAY YOUR SORRY

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/img_3943506.html

[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"][QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

GamerGuy07360

No jaggies in Crackdown?

Look at the Cement Railing infront of the character and the top of the yellow building on the right. Whats that I see? Jaggies

No jaggies in GeOW?

Look at the Statue, the building tops, the poles, and the car hood. Whats that I see? Jaggies

Your pics are TRASH.

First of all my Crackdown looks WAY BETTER then that on my HD TV. I mean those graphics in that pic are bland mine are way more detailed. So IDNO where you got that pic. But it's BOGUS on a cheap SDTV or very low res internet pic.

Same with your other pic same deal. They look FAR better on a good HDTV.

And for you my friend try again this is what it looks like FOR REAL. NOW SAY YOUR SORRY

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/img_3943506.html

Again take a look at these this is a real repersitation of the game.

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/imgs_1.html

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"][QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"][QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

GamerGuy07360

No jaggies in Crackdown?

Look at the Cement Railing infront of the character and the top of the yellow building on the right. Whats that I see? Jaggies

No jaggies in GeOW?

Look at the Statue, the building tops, the poles, and the car hood. Whats that I see? Jaggies

Your pics are TRASH.

First of all my Crackdown looks WAY BETTER then that on my HD TV. I mean those graphics in that pic are bland mine are way more detailed. So IDNO where you got that pic. But it's BOGUS on a cheap SDTV or very low res internet pic.

Same with your other pic same deal. They look FAR better on a good HDTV.

And for you my friend try again this is what it looks like FOR REAL. NOW SAY YOUR SORRY

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/img_3943506.html

Again take a look at these this is a real repersitation of the game.

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/imgs_1.html

All come and please look at the links i provided. Don't be fooled by the cheesy low res shot the other guy posted.

I have posted the truth and there is NO DISPUTING THIS PERIOD.

And for you my friend try again this is what it looks like FOR REAL. NOW SAY YOUR SORRY

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/img_3943506.html

GamerGuy07360

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

asdasd

No jaggies in Crackdown?

Look at the Cement Railing infront of the character and the top of the yellow building on the right. Whats that I see? Jaggies

No jaggies in GeOW?

Look at the Statue, the building tops, the poles, and the car hood. Whats that I see? Jaggies

DID you see the links i posted? You agree now right? And you are going to admit your pics are not the real deal and the ones i posted shot this down and crushed it right!

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

And for you my friend try again this is what it looks like FOR REAL. NOW SAY YOUR SORRY

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/img_3943506.html

asdasd

How can you be done with me.

You just owned yourself. The pics i posted are 480P you say and there is NO JAGGIES right you agree right? So there for you know the ones i posted are the ones of the real game in it's current form and just imagine it running on my 720P HDTV so you know there is NO JAGGIES PERIOD.

For those who have common sense and want to see the real representation of the game in it's current form. And want the truth that there is NO JAGGIES on the new 360 games coming out. Just look here.

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/imgs_1.html

For those who have common sense and want to see the real representation of the game in it's current form. And want the truth that there is NO JAGGIES on the new 360 games coming out. Just look here.

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/imgs_1.html

GamerGuy07360

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

HuusAsking

"Look at the Statue, the building tops, the poles, and the car hood. Whats that I see? Jaggies"

your screens are garbage go play the crackdown demo or GeoW there are no jaggies even on a SDTV. next time try not to resize your pictures so u dont look like a jac&$#@.

I do not get it... most PC games these days are made specifically with Nvidia GPUs in mind, yet for almost all time, ATI have been superior. I have never liked Nvidia.
foxhound_fox

NO released game so far has used the EDRAM for "free" AA, the first ANNOUCNHED game use the EDRAM for AA was Forza 2mrboo15

[QUOTE="mrboo15"]NO released game so far has used the EDRAM for "free" AA, the first ANNOUCNHED game use the EDRAM for AA was Forza 2edd721

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

GamerGuy07360

GeoW doesnt use AA

[QUOTE="edd721"][QUOTE="mrboo15"]NO released game so far has used the EDRAM for "free" AA, the first ANNOUCNHED game use the EDRAM for AA was Forza 2mrboo15

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

No what i'm saying is most of us have known and accept that pics from low res internet are not what it really looks like in the game on a good tv.jwat4

What you said was I dare you to show a game with any Jaggies.... Those pictures show you a game with jaggies...

This thread is pretty pointless because all games have them...some where some portion of the game isnt as smooth as it could be...most times the jagged edges arent that bad but they are there...and honestly what are you basising any of your claims on?

You have a 360 and you play it on your HDTV and decide that somehow Sony has issues with jaggies?....Have you played a PS3 on your HDTV?

Yes i have a PS3

[QUOTE="mrboo15"][QUOTE="edd721"][QUOTE="mrboo15"]NO released game so far has used the EDRAM for "free" AA, the first ANNOUCNHED game use the EDRAM for AA was Forza 2edd721

Seems like a few lemmings are in massive denial. Their pics= real world representations (of course, they hand select them) Other pics= not real (despite running at the same resolution and coming from reputable sites)Vampyronight

We are bot even close to denial.

Here take a look do you see jaggies. I don't think so NONE.

And these are the real pics of the final build and what it really looks like now in the full game.

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/imgs_1.html

Yes this is true as you see most all games out on 360 you can clearly see the developers have grasped that free 10MB of free AA on that ATI GPU in the 360.

Take a great game like crackdown. I DARE you to SHOW ME jaggies anywhere. YOU CAN'T!!!

Same with GEOW NO JAGGIES!!!

All i'm saying is you will start to really see the difference in ports and just games in general between the PS3 and 360 games.

They even say there is some noticeable jags in VF5 on PS3.

GamerGuy07360

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]Seems like a few lemmings are in massive denial. Their pics= real world representations (of course, they hand select them) Other pics= not real (despite running at the same resolution and coming from reputable sites)GamerGuy07360

We are bot even close to denial.

Here take a look do you see jaggies. I don't think so NONE.

And these are the real pics of the final build and what it really looks like now in the full game.

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/imgs_1.html

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]Seems like a few lemmings are in massive denial. Their pics= real world representations (of course, they hand select them) Other pics= not real (despite running at the same resolution and coming from reputable sites)jwat4

We are bot even close to denial.

Here take a look do you see jaggies. I don't think so NONE.

And these are the real pics of the final build and what it really looks like now in the full game.

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/imgs_1.html

[QUOTE="jwat4"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"]Seems like a few lemmings are in massive denial. Their pics= real world representations (of course, they hand select them) Other pics= not real (despite running at the same resolution and coming from reputable sites)HuusAsking

We are bot even close to denial.

Here take a look do you see jaggies. I don't think so NONE.

And these are the real pics of the final build and what it really looks like now in the full game.

http://media.xbox360.gamespy.com/media/773/773714/imgs_1.html

Yes thank you. So this cleary destorys this guys attemp to post a way old build of that trash he posted. Or however he came up with that pic becuase the game looks nothing like that in the full game on my TV.

And even so about Geows of war using a different way of making the game have AA effect. It shows that the flexibility and power combined of the 360 is starting to show it's muscle and eliminationg jaggies in all the new current 360 games.

I think Something that the PS3 will just suffer from. Due to the NO AA and HDR at the same time. And just no real way of doing full AA without a big performance hit.

[QUOTE="edd721"][QUOTE="mrboo15"]NO released game so far has used the EDRAM for "free" AA, the first ANNOUCNHED game use the EDRAM for AA was Forza 2mrboo15

Its still a huge advantage when games start utilizing it in a year or so. The 360 has great graphics now and they are going to get that much better.