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Screenshots are dumb. Games are played in motion. Performance is just as important as fidelity. Still photos are kinda pointless.
https://imageshack.com/a/img547/1681/cxu.gif (link for higher quality)
I made this myself - 1280 x 720 at ultra settings vs 1920 x 1080 at medium settings. Clearly, the 1080 looks better even though it is set to a lower graphical setting. This is especially so at longer distances.
http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/images/articles/Luther-Resolution-Large.jpg
How about this one? No difference right lems? Someone post please, on mobile.
https://imageshack.com/a/img547/1681/cxu.gif (link for higher quality)
I made this myself - 1280 x 720 at ultra settings vs 1920 x 1080 at medium settings. Clearly, the 1080 looks better even though it is set to a lower graphical setting. This is especially so at longer distances.
Lol just look at the lights on the sign
I decided to try it just now on my PC at 1080P & 720P.
There is a noticeable difference while in game, but looking at these screens makes it hard to tell much of a difference.
Even from those small pictures I can still tell which is running at a lower resolution, especially with 720p.
But we don't play games in small windows usually, most of us game in full screen. Especially with console games, If you can't see a difference then you are plain lying to yourself.
please dont use gamespots shitty image compression to show this off....use a better website that will give us the full pictures please
https://imageshack.com/a/img547/1681/cxu.gif (link for higher quality)
I made this myself - 1280 x 720 at ultra settings vs 1920 x 1080 at medium settings. Clearly, the 1080 looks better even though it is set to a lower graphical setting. This is especially so at longer distances.
Lol just look at the lights on the sign
If I ever have frame rate issues I reduce graphical quality - I have yet to reduce resolution. Why would I want to view something so blurry that you can't even see the high resolution models or textures? 1080p at medium is better than 720p at ultra. Since I repurchased my PS3 a few years ago it has been difficult to play the games after I played on my PC - and I attribute it to the very low image quality.
is this comparison legit? Because you can see clear differences here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-assassins-creed-4-next-gen-face-off
Even when I play on PCSX2 I can clearly see a pretty huge difference between 1280x720 vs 1920x1080.
http://www.hdtvsolutions.com/images/articles/Luther-Resolution-Large.jpg
How about this one? No difference right lems? Someone post please, on mobile.
That's a bad comparison, since it destroys the quality of the lower ones.
The only good way to compare different resolutions is by having different displays of said resolutions and comparing them one after the other on your PC. Or even better side by side if possible.
https://imageshack.com/a/img547/1681/cxu.gif (link for higher quality)
I made this myself - 1280 x 720 at ultra settings vs 1920 x 1080 at medium settings. Clearly, the 1080 looks better even though it is set to a lower graphical setting. This is especially so at longer distances.
Lol just look at the lights on the sign
If I ever have frame rate issues I reduce graphical quality - I have yet to reduce resolution. Why would I want to view something so blurry that you can't even see the high resolution models or textures? 1080p at medium is better than 720p at ultra. Since I repurchased my PS3 a few years ago it has been difficult to play the games after I played on my PC - and I attribute it to the very low image quality.
I know the feeling, I picked up a PS3 at Black Friday and yeah some of the games are pretty rough looking, most recently being RDR
is this comparison legit? Because you can see clear differences here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-assassins-creed-4-next-gen-face-off
Even when I play on PCSX2 I can clearly see a pretty huge difference between 1280x720 vs 1920x1080.
Strangely - there is no AO on the necklace in the 'PC' picture OP has posted. It is also a bit blurrier. Either this is a botched comparison or a biased edit. Lems are just losing it over being forced in to 720p again for another 5 years.
Once you make the images in the OP full size and even sitting 4 feet back, I can still see the 1080p one is sharper (on a 22" monitor).
https://imageshack.com/a/img547/1681/cxu.gif (link for higher quality)
I made this myself - 1280 x 720 at ultra settings vs 1920 x 1080 at medium settings. Clearly, the 1080 looks better even though it is set to a lower graphical setting. This is especially so at longer distances.
Lol just look at the lights on the sign
If I ever have frame rate issues I reduce graphical quality - I have yet to reduce resolution. Why would I want to view something so blurry that you can't even see the high resolution models or textures? 1080p at medium is better than 720p at ultra. Since I repurchased my PS3 a few years ago it has been difficult to play the games after I played on my PC - and I attribute it to the very low image quality.
I know the feeling, I picked up a PS3 at Black Friday and yeah some of the games are pretty rough looking, most recently being RDR
I was sickened at what I saw playing Black Ops 2 and TLOU. I am glad some developers are putting a priority on resolution this time around. I can only hope that Sony applies a rule that no game can render under 900p.
1080p looks better than 720p. If you're having trouble with that notion, then there's really no helping you.
@gameofthering: That's because when you run it with the same monitor the game will instantly upscale the smaller resolution and that degrades the image quality. Play it in a window and you will notice it will have a sharper image even if only using around half the screen, since it should be displaying it "natively". When you take screenshots it should capture something similar to the that windowed version instead of the upscaled version.
@Wasdie: Because their system cannot achieve 1080p so they need to find ways to prove that 1080p isn't important. This is the primary reason and no way around. For example, X1 will have more 720p titles in 2014 than 1080p ones, you think he isn't pissed? He's annoyed as fk but can't do anything about it, so lets just pretend that 1080p is nothing special and 720p is so close to it that 1080p is simply not need.
Why do people willfully stay ignorant about this subject? The more pixels rendered the better the image quality is. That is fact. There is no way around that.
Loyalty to inanimate objects, obviously.
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
https://imageshack.com/a/img547/1681/cxu.gif (link for higher quality)
I made this myself - 1280 x 720 at ultra settings vs 1920 x 1080 at medium settings. Clearly, the 1080 looks better even though it is set to a lower graphical setting. This is especially so at longer distances.
Lol just look at the lights on the sign
If I ever have frame rate issues I reduce graphical quality - I have yet to reduce resolution. Why would I want to view something so blurry that you can't even see the high resolution models or textures? 1080p at medium is better than 720p at ultra. Since I repurchased my PS3 a few years ago it has been difficult to play the games after I played on my PC - and I attribute it to the very low image quality.
I know the feeling, I picked up a PS3 at Black Friday and yeah some of the games are pretty rough looking, most recently being RDR
I was sickened at what I saw playing Black Ops 2 and TLOU. I am glad some developers are putting a priority on resolution this time around. I can only hope that Sony applies a rule that no game can render under 900p.
Have fun playing with sub-par framerates then.
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
I did do that... All 3 images are 1600x900 upscaled to 1080. Once it is open, you right click and inspect element and it tells you the source resolution...
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
https://imageshack.com/a/img547/1681/cxu.gif (link for higher quality)
I made this myself - 1280 x 720 at ultra settings vs 1920 x 1080 at medium settings. Clearly, the 1080 looks better even though it is set to a lower graphical setting. This is especially so at longer distances.
Lol just look at the lights on the sign
If I ever have frame rate issues I reduce graphical quality - I have yet to reduce resolution. Why would I want to view something so blurry that you can't even see the high resolution models or textures? 1080p at medium is better than 720p at ultra. Since I repurchased my PS3 a few years ago it has been difficult to play the games after I played on my PC - and I attribute it to the very low image quality.
I know the feeling, I picked up a PS3 at Black Friday and yeah some of the games are pretty rough looking, most recently being RDR
I was sickened at what I saw playing Black Ops 2 and TLOU. I am glad some developers are putting a priority on resolution this time around. I can only hope that Sony applies a rule that no game can render under 900p.
Have fun playing with sub-par framerates then.
Alternatively the developers can reduce the quality of the game - it ends up looking better than 720p at ultra quality anyways. 900p 30fps should be the minimum this gen.
@bloodlust_101:
I can barley see a difference, it's not "clearly", as you state.
Open the full size and make the image full screen (f11) to simulate how it would look on your screen. Even though the textures are on medium, at 1080p they appear much higher than the ultra textures on 720p. The finer details, such as the lights at the top of the screen are a blurry mess on the 720p image. If you can't see a clear image quality difference..
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
Those pictures were all in original size, and then upscaled to 1080(LIKE ALL CONSOLE GAMES ARE).
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
Those pictures were all in original size, and then upscaled to 1080(LIKE ALL CONSOLE GAMES ARE).
Pointless comparison then
Using upscaled 1080p images LOL
Why do people willfully stay ignorant about this subject? The more pixels rendered the better the image quality is. That is fact. There is no way around that.
I wish I knew.
It's like people are willfully walking into arguments they can't win, and staking out a position that is untenable. People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
Those pictures were all in original size, and then upscaled to 1080(LIKE ALL CONSOLE GAMES ARE).
Pointless comparison then
Using upscaled 1080p images LOL
Because all console games are upscaled from 720p, 900p and 1080p to 1080p. EVERY SINGLE GAME
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
I checked again right now, and you read it wrong. The source is 1080p and only scaled to almost 900p (it's in parenthesis like this statement :P) when in the initial screen. In that screen click when the cursor becomes a + and check the info again. 1080p but this time no parenthesis telling you it's scaled to X resolution.
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
Those pictures were all in original size, and then upscaled to 1080(LIKE ALL CONSOLE GAMES ARE).
Pointless comparison then
Using upscaled 1080p images LOL
Because all console games are upscaled from 720p, 900p and 1080p to 1080p. EVERY SINGLE GAME
Heard it here first people - 1080p gets upscaled to 1080p!
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
Those pictures were all in original size, and then upscaled to 1080(LIKE ALL CONSOLE GAMES ARE).
Wait, what? Why would you scale images that are native 1080p? And why would you suggest "all console games are [upscaled]"? The first doesn't make sense, and the second isn't true anyway. Lots of games are native 1080p on consoles, and everyone knows that native resolution on a 1080p or better display looks better than an upscaled non-native resolution. And everyone should know that being able to downsample from a higher resolution looks even better than native resolution because of the reduced presence of jaggies.
There really isn't anything else to say on the subject. You just need to accept it and move on to other arguments. You embarass yourself when you do this and give Cows and Hermits a reason to point and laugh at lemmings. You can't in one thread ask people to stop talking about resolution, then make threads like this.
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
Those pictures were all in original size, and then upscaled to 1080(LIKE ALL CONSOLE GAMES ARE).
Pointless comparison then
Using upscaled 1080p images LOL
Because all console games are upscaled from 720p, 900p and 1080p to 1080p. EVERY SINGLE GAME
Yeah,and you need to compare actual native pictures,not upscaled ones
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
I checked again right now, and you read it wrong. The source is 1080p and only scaled to almost 900p (it's in parenthesis like this statement :P) when in the initial screen. In that screen click when the cursor becomes a + and check the info again. 1080p but this time no parenthesis telling you it's scaled to X resolution.
I stand corrected.
My apologies.
Even so though, comparing upscaled shots is not how it should be done, as Monsieur has already mentioned.
Why are all those images 1600x900?
Aaaand comparison already ruined.
you have to open the image on a new tab... all of them are really downscaled and look the same if you dont open and see them in a new tab.
Actually all of them are upscaled to 1080p when you open them full size. That's also why you get that kind of color dithering effect on the lower resolution ones.
They are... but upscaled from 1600x900 which means the original 1080 image has lost a lot of details in the process from being downscaled to upscaled...
Those pictures were all in original size, and then upscaled to 1080(LIKE ALL CONSOLE GAMES ARE).
Pointless comparison then
Using upscaled 1080p images LOL
Because all console games are upscaled from 720p, 900p and 1080p to 1080p. EVERY SINGLE GAME
Heard it here first people - 1080p gets upscaled to 1080p!
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