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  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
    Posts: 208
    Oct 30, 2007 7:45 pm PT

    Ati's new card is right around the corner this mid November. What will it be called?? The 2950 or the 3850?? Amd is coming also coming out with their Quad core Phenom Processors this month and a new motherboard, the 700 series (the 790fx is on my wishlist)

    Anyway the point of this forum is does anyone kow the date, specifications and price of all of this new hardware?? I am an Ati fanboy

    Ati's new card is right around the corner this mid November. What will it be called?? The 2950 or the 3850?? Amd is coming also coming out with their Quad core Phenom Processors this month and a new motherboard, the 700 series (the 790fx is on my wishlist)

    Anyway the point of this forum is does anyone kow the date, specifications and price of all of this new hardware?? I am an Ati fanboy

  • Level 31
    Ippon!
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    Oct 30, 2007 7:48 pm PT
    Raider762 wrote:

    I am an Ati fanboy

    You're missing out on alot then.

    [QUOTE="Raider762"]

    I am an Ati fanboy

    [/QUOTE]

    You're missing out on alot then.

  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
    Posts: 208
    Oct 30, 2007 7:54 pm PT

    [/QUOTE]

    You're missing out on alot then.

    [/QUOTE]

    What do you mean missing out? ON WHAT??

    [/QUOTE]

    You're missing out on alot then.

    [/QUOTE]

    What do you mean missing out? ON WHAT??

  • Level 27
    Sheng Long
    Posts: 1578
    Oct 30, 2007 7:55 pm PT
    On video cards that don't require a private nuclear reactor to power

    "One cannot laugh at the world if they cannot learn to laugh at themself." -Me

    Halo 4?

    On video cards that don't require a private nuclear reactor to power :P
  • Level 31
    Ippon!
    Posts: 6438
    User is Online
    Oct 30, 2007 7:57 pm PT
    Raider762 wrote:

    You're missing out on alot then.

    [/QUOTE]

    What do you mean missing out? ON WHAT??

    [/QUOTE]

    Sorry to say, but Nvidia dominates most card ranges at the moment, things will change, but ignoring half the market is your loss.

    [QUOTE="Raider762"]

    [/QUOTE]

    You're missing out on alot then.

    [/QUOTE]

    What do you mean missing out? ON WHAT??

    [/QUOTE]

    Sorry to say, but Nvidia dominates most card ranges at the moment, things will change, but ignoring half the market is your loss.

  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
    Posts: 208
    Oct 30, 2007 7:59 pm PT

    OPRFWrestler112 wrote:
    On video cards that don't require a private nuclear reactor to power

    Please, you aren't being realistic, All you need to power any card is an Ultra X3 1000w power supply

    [QUOTE="OPRFWrestler112"]On video cards that don't require a private nuclear reactor to power :P[/QUOTE]

    Please, you aren't being realistic, All you need to power any card is an Ultra X3 1000w power supply

  • Level 27
    Sheng Long
    Posts: 1578
    Oct 30, 2007 8:07 pm PT
    Um, hate to break it to ya, but that $400 paperweight isn't helping you a whole lot. I'm going off of a 700w PSU just fine for less than 1/4 of the price of a 1000w PSU.

    "One cannot laugh at the world if they cannot learn to laugh at themself." -Me

    Halo 4?

    Um, hate to break it to ya, but that $400 paperweight isn't helping you a whole lot. I'm going off of a 700w PSU just fine for less than 1/4 of the price of a 1000w PSU.
  • Level 35
    Stitches
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    Oct 30, 2007 8:19 pm PT
    Umm ATIs drivers have always owned Nvidias soo... And for some reason all you guys are hyping the 8800gt... Although a good card, the new ATI will be soooooooooooo much better.

    PC Specs:AMD X4 9950BE OC'd 3.0ghz w/ Rosewill AM2 Z3 heatsink, 4G DDR2 800mhz Oc'd 900mhz each, MSI K9A2 Platinum, 400G HD, WVista 64 basic, ATI H.I.S ICEQ3 512 GDDR4 3870 at 800Core and 2300Mem mhz, Apevia XDREAMER II case w/Custom fans, Rosewill 550watt performance PSU, 20' Acer AL2016W, CH flight system (fighterstick, pro throttle, rudder pedals), Saitek Aviator, Saitek ECLIPSE, Razer Deathadder, Creative SB X-fi Extreme Audio PCIe sound card, Creative Inspire T3100 2.1 speakers.

    063DMark: 11496 ___FSX Guides by LTZH___

    Top game: SW Galaxies pre-cu [was a bad-a$$ pvpr (non jedi)]

    Umm ATIs drivers have always owned Nvidias soo... And for some reason all you guys are hyping the 8800gt... Although a good card, the new ATI will be soooooooooooo much better.
  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
    Posts: 208
    Oct 31, 2007 8:43 am PT
    Hello!!!!!!!!! People I started this forum to talk about Amds products that are coming out this November. Those products include graphics cards, motherboards, and Phenom processors. If you kow about the date it is coming out, the price or the exact specs please post. If you don't well..... find something else to doon the internet.
    Hello!!!!!!!!! People I started this forum to talk about Amds products that are coming out this November. Those products include graphics cards, motherboards, and Phenom processors. If you kow about the date it is coming out, the price or the exact specs please post. If you don't well..... find something else to doon the internet.
  • Level 21
    Rescue Ranger
    Posts: 1798
    Oct 31, 2007 10:28 am PT

    Nice to see this turned into fanboy vs fanboy

    I'm excited about the phenom as well

    Nice to see this turned into fanboy vs fanboy

    I'm excited about the phenom as well

  • Level 33
    Goombella
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    Oct 31, 2007 10:32 am PT
    Raider762 wrote:
    Hello!!!!!!!!! People I started this forum to talk about Amds products that are coming out this November. Those products include graphics cards, motherboards, and Phenom processors. If you kow about the date it is coming out, the price or the exact specs please post. If you don't well..... find something else to doon the internet.
    dont worry about them there all being stupid, i personally cant wait to see what ATI has to offer and i hope its far better than the 8800GT at the same price point that would make it very interesting.

    MY RIG:Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 4MB Cache@ 1.86GHZ,256MB Nvidia GeForce 8600GTS @ Stock Clock 2024MB DDR2 667MHZ RAM,Logitech X-530 5.1 Surround Sound
    Windows XP,
    320GB Serial ATA HDD@ 7200 RPM


    [QUOTE="Raider762"]Hello!!!!!!!!! People I started this forum to talk about Amds products that are coming out this November. Those products include graphics cards, motherboards, and Phenom processors. If you kow about the date it is coming out, the price or the exact specs please post. If you don't well..... find something else to doon the internet.[/QUOTE]dont worry about them there all being stupid, i personally cant wait to see what ATI has to offer and i hope its far better than the 8800GT at the same price point that would make it very interesting.
  • Level 18
    Flicky
    Posts: 1349
    Oct 31, 2007 10:46 am PT

    LTZH wrote:
    Umm ATIs drivers have always owned Nvidias soo... And for some reason all you guys are hyping the 8800gt... Although a good card, the new ATI will be soooooooooooo much better.

    The ATi drivers have always been crap compared to the NVIDIA drivers. I have worked with both. SGI and OpenGL guru Richard S. Wright even says that the engineers over at ATi are horrible. I don't have a problem with ATi, I even considered purchasing a 9800 XT a while ago and a 1950XTX more recently until the NVIDIA 8800 came out. Hopefully with the AMD engineers now involved ATi's drivers and hardware will improve.

    [QUOTE="LTZH"]Umm ATIs drivers have always owned Nvidias soo... And for some reason all you guys are hyping the 8800gt... Although a good card, the new ATI will be soooooooooooo much better.[/QUOTE]

    The ATi drivers have always been crap compared to the NVIDIA drivers. I have worked with both. SGI and OpenGL guru Richard S. Wright even says that the engineers over at ATi are horrible. I don't have a problem with ATi, I even considered purchasing a 9800 XT a while ago and a 1950XTX more recently until the NVIDIA 8800 came out. Hopefully with the AMD engineers now involved ATi's drivers and hardware will improve.

  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
    Posts: 208
    Oct 31, 2007 11:30 am PT

    Here is a picture of the 700 series motherboards offered by ASus soon (got picture at http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?42413 and I know its not a great picture)

    Here is a picture of the 700 series motherboards offered by ASus soon (got picture at http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?42413 and I know its not a great picture)

  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
    Posts: 208
    Oct 31, 2007 11:35 am PT

    And here is some news on the new Phenom Processors from http://www.pureoverclock.com/story1520.html

    CPU & Motherboards...Quad-core Phenom 9-series: possible clocks, models written by Ciro - October 10, 2007 06:050 comments

    VR-Zone has compiled the launch date and relative specs regarding AMD's quad-core Phenom 9-series. According to the site, the quads will arrive in Nov/Dec while the Phenom FX will debut in Q1 '08. All chips are socket AM2+ compatible, 65nm and house 2MB L2 cache. The clock speeds range from 2.2GHz - 2.8GHz.

    Phenom FX-82 will be clocked at 2.6GHz or higher while the faster FX-8x model could hit 3GHz. FX-82 DVT samples will be available in Q4 while production will kick off in Q1 2008 while FX-8x DVT sample and production is slated for Q2 2008. Phenom 9600 and 9500 clocked at 2.4GHz and 2.2GHz respectively will be the first quad-core Phenom processors to hit the market in Nov. Phenom 9700 clocked at 2.6GHz will come along slightly later in Dec. A faster iteration of the quad-core Phenom will come along in Q2 2008 while DVT samples will be available in Q1. Most likely, it will be called Phenom 9800 and clocked at 2.8GHz.

    And if you want one of those new opterons click at the following link http://www.directron.com/amdquadcore.html

    And here is some news on the new Phenom Processors from http://www.pureoverclock.com/story1520.html

    CPU & Motherboards...Quad-core Phenom 9-series: possible clocks, models written by Ciro - October 10, 2007 06:050 comments

    VR-Zone has compiled the launch date and relative specs regarding AMD's quad-core Phenom 9-series. According to the site, the quads will arrive in Nov/Dec while the Phenom FX will debut in Q1 '08. All chips are socket AM2+ compatible, 65nm and house 2MB L2 cache. The clock speeds range from 2.2GHz - 2.8GHz.

    Phenom FX-82 will be clocked at 2.6GHz or higher while the faster FX-8x model could hit 3GHz. FX-82 DVT samples will be available in Q4 while production will kick off in Q1 2008 while FX-8x DVT sample and production is slated for Q2 2008. Phenom 9600 and 9500 clocked at 2.4GHz and 2.2GHz respectively will be the first quad-core Phenom processors to hit the market in Nov. Phenom 9700 clocked at 2.6GHz will come along slightly later in Dec. A faster iteration of the quad-core Phenom will come along in Q2 2008 while DVT samples will be available in Q1. Most likely, it will be called Phenom 9800 and clocked at 2.8GHz.

    And if you want one of those new opterons click at the following link http://www.directron.com/amdquadcore.html

  • Level 21
    Rescue Ranger
    Posts: 1798
    Oct 31, 2007 12:39 pm PT
    Raider762 wrote:

    And here is some news on the new Phenom Processors from http://www.pureoverclock.com/story1520.html

    CPU & Motherboards...Quad-core Phenom 9-series: possible clocks, models written by Ciro - October 10, 2007 06:050 comments

    VR-Zone has compiled the launch date and relative specs regarding AMD's quad-core Phenom 9-series. According to the site, the quads will arrive in Nov/Dec while the Phenom FX will debut in Q1 '08. All chips are socket AM2+ compatible, 65nm and house 2MB L2 cache. The clock speeds range from 2.2GHz - 2.8GHz.

    Phenom FX-82 will be clocked at 2.6GHz or higher while the faster FX-8x model could hit 3GHz. FX-82 DVT samples will be available in Q4 while production will kick off in Q1 2008 while FX-8x DVT sample and production is slated for Q2 2008. Phenom 9600 and 9500 clocked at 2.4GHz and 2.2GHz respectively will be the first quad-core Phenom processors to hit the market in Nov. Phenom 9700 clocked at 2.6GHz will come along slightly later in Dec. A faster iteration of the quad-core Phenom will come along in Q2 2008 while DVT samples will be available in Q1. Most likely, it will be called Phenom 9800 and clocked at 2.8GHz.

    And if you want one of those new opterons click at the following link http://www.directron.com/amdquadcore.html

    Are they only AM2+ or AM2 compatible. If there not AM2 compatible I'll be saying bye bye to AMD

    [QUOTE="Raider762"]

    And here is some news on the new Phenom Processors from http://www.pureoverclock.com/story1520.html

    CPU & Motherboards...Quad-core Phenom 9-series: possible clocks, models written by Ciro - October 10, 2007 06:050 comments

    VR-Zone has compiled the launch date and relative specs regarding AMD's quad-core Phenom 9-series. According to the site, the quads will arrive in Nov/Dec while the Phenom FX will debut in Q1 '08. All chips are socket AM2+ compatible, 65nm and house 2MB L2 cache. The clock speeds range from 2.2GHz - 2.8GHz.

    Phenom FX-82 will be clocked at 2.6GHz or higher while the faster FX-8x model could hit 3GHz. FX-82 DVT samples will be available in Q4 while production will kick off in Q1 2008 while FX-8x DVT sample and production is slated for Q2 2008. Phenom 9600 and 9500 clocked at 2.4GHz and 2.2GHz respectively will be the first quad-core Phenom processors to hit the market in Nov. Phenom 9700 clocked at 2.6GHz will come along slightly later in Dec. A faster iteration of the quad-core Phenom will come along in Q2 2008 while DVT samples will be available in Q1. Most likely, it will be called Phenom 9800 and clocked at 2.8GHz.

    And if you want one of those new opterons click at the following link http://www.directron.com/amdquadcore.html

    [/QUOTE]

    Are they only AM2+ or AM2 compatible. If there not AM2 compatible I'll be saying bye bye to AMD

  • Level 20
    Metal Slime
    Posts: 1337
    Oct 31, 2007 12:54 pm PT
    acsguitar wrote:
    Raider762 wrote:

    And here is some news on the new Phenom Processors from http://www.pureoverclock.com/story1520.html

    CPU & Motherboards...Quad-core Phenom 9-series: possible clocks, models written by Ciro - October 10, 2007 06:050 comments

    VR-Zone has compiled the launch date and relative specs regarding AMD's quad-core Phenom 9-series. According to the site, the quads will arrive in Nov/Dec while the Phenom FX will debut in Q1 '08. All chips are socket AM2+ compatible, 65nm and house 2MB L2 cache. The clock speeds range from 2.2GHz - 2.8GHz.

    Phenom FX-82 will be clocked at 2.6GHz or higher while the faster FX-8x model could hit 3GHz. FX-82 DVT samples will be available in Q4 while production will kick off in Q1 2008 while FX-8x DVT sample and production is slated for Q2 2008. Phenom 9600 and 9500 clocked at 2.4GHz and 2.2GHz respectively will be the first quad-core Phenom processors to hit the market in Nov. Phenom 9700 clocked at 2.6GHz will come along slightly later in Dec. A faster iteration of the quad-core Phenom will come along in Q2 2008 while DVT samples will be available in Q1. Most likely, it will be called Phenom 9800 and clocked at 2.8GHz.

    And if you want one of those new opterons click at the following link http://www.directron.com/amdquadcore.html

    Are they only AM2+ or AM2 compatible. If there not AM2 compatible I'll be saying bye bye to AMD

    They are compatible with AM2. It says so on AMD's web site. Just search for phenom.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    [QUOTE="acsguitar"][QUOTE="Raider762"]

    And here is some news on the new Phenom Processors from http://www.pureoverclock.com/story1520.html

    CPU & Motherboards...Quad-core Phenom 9-series: possible clocks, models written by Ciro - October 10, 2007 06:050 comments

    VR-Zone has compiled the launch date and relative specs regarding AMD's quad-core Phenom 9-series. According to the site, the quads will arrive in Nov/Dec while the Phenom FX will debut in Q1 '08. All chips are socket AM2+ compatible, 65nm and house 2MB L2 cache. The clock speeds range from 2.2GHz - 2.8GHz.

    Phenom FX-82 will be clocked at 2.6GHz or higher while the faster FX-8x model could hit 3GHz. FX-82 DVT samples will be available in Q4 while production will kick off in Q1 2008 while FX-8x DVT sample and production is slated for Q2 2008. Phenom 9600 and 9500 clocked at 2.4GHz and 2.2GHz respectively will be the first quad-core Phenom processors to hit the market in Nov. Phenom 9700 clocked at 2.6GHz will come along slightly later in Dec. A faster iteration of the quad-core Phenom will come along in Q2 2008 while DVT samples will be available in Q1. Most likely, it will be called Phenom 9800 and clocked at 2.8GHz.

    And if you want one of those new opterons click at the following link http://www.directron.com/amdquadcore.html

    [/QUOTE]

    Are they only AM2+ or AM2 compatible. If there not AM2 compatible I'll be saying bye bye to AMD

    [/QUOTE]

    They are compatible with AM2. It says so on AMD's web site. Just search for phenom.

  • Level 29
    Radiant Silvergun
    Posts: 2235
    Oct 31, 2007 1:09 pm PT
    I'm excited to see the performance of the triple-core Phenom chips.

    I'm excited to see the performance of the triple-core Phenom chips.
  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
    Posts: 208
    Oct 31, 2007 1:10 pm PT

    Are they only AM2+ or AM2 compatible. If there not AM2 compatible I'll be saying bye bye to AMD

    [/QUOTE]

    They are compatible with AM2. It says so on AMD's web site. Just search for phenom.

    [/QUOTE]

    This guy is correct the Phenoms are Am2+ compatable, and some will be for their socket f. Take a look at this chart from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Phenom

    CodenameModelCoresClock
    Frequency (GHz)L2 Cache
    size (kB)shared L3
    Cache size
    (MB)TDP (W)HyperTransport
    Speed (MHz)
    per directionSocketAvailabilityPhenom FX[11]Agena FXFX-91[12]42.4-2.64x5122TBD1800Socket F+[12]Q1 2008FX-90[12]2.2-2.41600FX-8xTBD>=2000Socket AM2+Q2 2008FX-822.62000Q1 2008Phenom X4 / Phenom 9-SeriesAgena9xxx[13]42.x4x5122TBD>=2000Socket AM2+Q2 20089700[13]2.61252000December 20079600[13]2.4891800November 20079500[13]2.2Phenom X3 / Phenom 7-Series[11][14]Toliman[15]7700[16]32.53x512289?Socket AM2+Mar 20087600[16]2.3Phenom X2 / Athlon 6-Series[11]KumaGP-6800[17]22.4-2.82x5122892000Socket AM2+Q1 20086250[18]2.x65>=1600Q2 20086050[18]2.xGE-6600[17]2.345~1600Q1 2008GE-6500[17]2.1GE-6400[17]1.9Athlon X2Rana?2?2x512none??Socket AM2+Q4 2007

    Are they only AM2+ or AM2 compatible. If there not AM2 compatible I'll be saying bye bye to AMD

    [/QUOTE]

    They are compatible with AM2. It says so on AMD's web site. Just search for phenom.

    [/QUOTE]

    This guy is correct the Phenoms are Am2+ compatable, and some will be for their socket f. Take a look at this chart from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Phenom

    CodenameModelCoresClock
    Frequency (GHz)L2 Cache
    size (kB)shared L3
    Cache size
    (MB)TDP (W)HyperTransport
    Speed (MHz)
    per directionSocketAvailabilityPhenom FX[11]Agena FXFX-91[12]42.4-2.64x5122TBD1800Socket F+[12]Q1 2008FX-90[12]2.2-2.41600FX-8xTBD>=2000Socket AM2+Q2 2008FX-822.62000Q1 2008Phenom X4 / Phenom 9-SeriesAgena9xxx[13]42.x4x5122TBD>=2000Socket AM2+Q2 20089700[13]2.61252000December 20079600[13]2.4891800November 20079500[13]2.2Phenom X3 / Phenom 7-Series[11][14]Toliman[15]7700[16]32.53x512289?Socket AM2+Mar 20087600[16]2.3Phenom X2 / Athlon 6-Series[11]KumaGP-6800[17]22.4-2.82x5122892000Socket AM2+Q1 20086250[18]2.x65>=1600Q2 20086050[18]2.xGE-6600[17]2.345~1600Q1 2008GE-6500[17]2.1GE-6400[17]1.9Athlon X2Rana?2?2x512none??Socket AM2+Q4 2007

  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
    Posts: 208
    Oct 31, 2007 1:11 pm PT
    Well, it is a chart on wikipedia anyway.
    Well, it is a chart on wikipedia anyway.
  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
    Posts: 208
    Oct 31, 2007 1:28 pm PT

    Another article to confirm to people that Phenoms are Socket AM2

    At the top of the product lineup we have the Phenom FX processors (codenamed Agena FX). These processors will be quad-core only and run at the highest clock speeds in AMD's lineup, much like the current Athlon 64 FX. At the Quad FX introduction, AMD indicated that FX processors would be Socket-1207 only, simplifying its product lineup. Unfortunately, AMD has once again reversed its decision and Phenom FX processors will be available in both Socket-1207 and Socket-AM2 flavors.

    The Phenom X4 and X2 processors are the sensible versions of the Phenom, these are the ones we will most likely be recommending out of AMD's lineup if history holds true. The X4 and X2 will be Socket-AM2/AM2+ only and are 100% backwards compatible with current AM2 motherboards.

    The current Athlon 64 X2 has been renamed to the Athlon X2; given that both AMD and Intel offer 64-bit processors, dropping the 64 from the name makes sense. At the bottom of the list is AMD's Sempron, which is the only single core brand in the product lineup.

    AMD hasn't updated us on other details for Phenom, which is a bit odd given how much more forthcoming AMD has been privately about other aspects of its microprocessor plans. Either AMD is doing its best to hide a rough ramp of Phenom or it is sitting on a very powerful weapon to combat Intel with, and we can't get any indication of which it is.

    This article came from http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2987

    Another article to confirm to people that Phenoms are Socket AM2

    At the top of the product lineup we have the Phenom FX processors (codenamed Agena FX). These processors will be quad-core only and run at the highest clock speeds in AMD's lineup, much like the current Athlon 64 FX. At the Quad FX introduction, AMD indicated that FX processors would be Socket-1207 only, simplifying its product lineup. Unfortunately, AMD has once again reversed its decision and Phenom FX processors will be available in both Socket-1207 and Socket-AM2 flavors.

    The Phenom X4 and X2 processors are the sensible versions of the Phenom, these are the ones we will most likely be recommending out of AMD's lineup if history holds true. The X4 and X2 will be Socket-AM2/AM2+ only and are 100% backwards compatible with current AM2 motherboards.

    The current Athlon 64 X2 has been renamed to the Athlon X2; given that both AMD and Intel offer 64-bit processors, dropping the 64 from the name makes sense. At the bottom of the list is AMD's Sempron, which is the only single core brand in the product lineup.

    AMD hasn't updated us on other details for Phenom, which is a bit odd given how much more forthcoming AMD has been privately about other aspects of its microprocessor plans. Either AMD is doing its best to hide a rough ramp of Phenom or it is sitting on a very powerful weapon to combat Intel with, and we can't get any indication of which it is.

    This article came from http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2987

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