National Security Advisor Michael Flynn Resigns

His departure came just after reports surfaced the Justice Department warned the Trump administration last month that Flynn misled administration officials regarding his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States and was potentially vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians.

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• CNN reports that Flynn could not remember what he talked to the Russian ambassador about when asked by VP Mike Pence
• CNN reports that this decision had been discussed by the White House for the past three days.
• Resignation letter

One less pawn in this administration's ties with Russia

The real question is: What rote psychopath will take his place?

Gen. Keith Kellogg is the interim NSA (he is, reported by CNN, very close to the NSA #2

Gen. Patraeus is another possibility to replace (although he carries a great deal of baggage)

The Trump Administration in a nutshell.

Russian spys, we tried to warn yall. Papa Putin will not be please with Puppet Trump. Flynn is now the second top Trump official to resign due to shady Russian ties. Campaign manager Manafort was 1st. You know what they say, were there smoke theres fire.

Its time for an investigation.

This is terrible.

Trump can't even lead men, how can we expect him to lead the country.

After the investigation into Trump's ties with Russia

so was he not vetted before assuming his position?

The NSA is a position that is chosen by the President alone. While this story has been in the news for months, it is apparently because of the article published by the Washington Post that showed that Flynn lied to Pence about his discussions with Russia that lead to this resignation.

Ugh what a mess so far. Fire Bannon too while you're at it Trump. You need better.

We might have more to come. They stated this is just the beginning in the investigation of Russia's meddling with the elections.

It would be much easier to list the people he should keep. Every position I have seen is filled with people who have zero business occupying such a position. It's akin to hiring a plumber because your bathroom is flooding, and he replies with "I dont see what's wrong, you have an indoor pool!!" You kind of dont know what to say to such batshit stupidity and insanity.

The bigger problem for Trump will be him trying to convince the public that this is all on Flynn, as if there's not others in his circle who has problematic ties with the Kremlin, as if he hasn't been brown nosing Putin, as if this hasn't been in the interest of the news for months. This will not entirely fall on Flynn, no effing way, there's already too many loose ends. Reports are saying he's known about Flynn's problems for weeks, claimed the other day he knew nothing about it, they're trying to say VP Pence was mislead which I don't buy either, there's likely going to be push by Democrats to blow this open and see how far back Trump's campaign was in contact with Russia and whether they were complicit with Russia interference in elections.

I'm guessing Republicans will be upset, sure I think they wanted Trump out too, but I think they wanted the ACA repeal to happen under Trump as well as all other policy they want, but they want him to sign it so when they send him packing, they can wash their hands of it and in following elections by deflecting blame on Trump.

lmao, hasn't even been 4 weeks yet and heads are already starting to roll. What a disaster of an administration.

Who is odds on to get sacked next? Conway? Spicer?

It's funny because if Obama's administation was held to Trump's standard's, they'd have all been fired day 1. Instead of firing incompetence or creating any potential controversies, Obama would just cover it up and carry on business as usual (which is what happened with almost every disaster that happened under Obama's presence). Trump tackles incompetence head on and gets slammed for it. Good stuff.

Lock him up lock him up god karma finally caught up to him

So Trump fired him. Isn't this a good thing?

This.

People have lost all perspective.

@DaBrainz: @SUD123456: trump didn't fire him, he resigned

Hmm, Flynn does need to answer some questions.

But good he resigned , someone with that close ties with Russia is bad in such a sensitive position.

lol.

the wh knew about flynn's deception long before last night. it looks like they're only now taking action to save face once it became public.

good stuff

and yes, in the end it is a good thing he is removed from his position.

Good, Flynn was a conspiracy theorist and was relieved of his last command for a reason. But lets get real though, he resigned once pressure started to mount. The AG informed Trump about this matter weeks ago. The matter was becoming public so a decision was most likely made to insulate the administration from fallout on the issue.

Its time for his arrest. Lock em up!

What reality do you live in? "Trump's standards"? What a load of rubbish, he has gotten a pass on every thing he has done in the past 3 weeks, including numerous conflict of interest problems, security issues, repeated lies to the media, berating and insulting judges, botched Yemen raid, incompetent cabinet appointees, and on and on and ON. The administration is a disaster run by inexperienced charlatans and corporate muppets. Had Hillary done any of that stuff the GOP would have strung her up by her pantsuit by now.

As for Obama, Pres. Obama's administration is famous for very little (if any) scandals... which is why the GOP hasn't been able to make anything stick over the 8 past years. He has represented the position with class which is something you can't say about Trump.

Bullshit

The National Security Advisor, a top national security position, was removed from the position due to gross incompetence and links to foreign governments. Not to mention being found to have lied to the Vice President. What "high standards" are we looking at?

Michael Flynn is now a man who has been fired by both Barrack Obama and Donald Trump. No, this was a bad pick to start and just showed how close this entire organization is to Russia.

Guarenteed that @iandizion713 is NEET.

ouch.

All he had to do was act in a forthcoming nature but he failed. People like that should be fired.

Remember guys, Trump didnt fire Flynn, it was the women who was defending you constitution that Trump had fired who warned Trump about Flynn's corruption.

Sally Yates, a true American hero.

Have you forgotten the IRS or VA Administration scandals (which had multiple ones)?

I'm glad the guy is being held accountable, but honestly, Flynn was one of the more qualified members of the Trump administration. Plus, he briefly talked Trump out of torture. Until we know for sure who his replacement is, I'm going to be a bit uneasy.

Conway sounds like a lot of irrational pro-Trump posters in this thread/forums, you can't defend this crap or you're going to get destroyed just like The Crypt Keeper did in this video,

Ermm no.

Trump didn't fire him. Trump was told weeks ago about this by the security agencies and did nothing. After the weight of public evidence built up Flynn finally resigned. Trump did nothing other than accept it.

Really minor ones that weren't related to the Obama administration? OK that's the same as borderline treason before you even get into office.

No, I haven't. Those weren't related to the Obama administration and the IRS one for example, the FBI found no evidence of wrongdoing.

https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/831380312529604608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Oh the irony. Let's see if the everyone who screamed about Hilary using an unsecured email have the same morals when it comes to Mr Flynn, eh?

Minor? The IRS even admitted to it and the deaths of veterans isn't minor? Tell that to their families. Obama is the head of the government, outside of Congress, posts such as IRS head and VA Admin chairman do answer to the President. The IRS is part of the Treasury Department who is part of the cabinet. As far as Flynn, I have no qualms about him resigning, as he should, just like the former head of the VA had to resign his appointment (by Obama).

See above. The IRS even admitted to doing so as reported in the press. IRS finally reveals list of tea party groups targeted for extra scrutiny. There were over 460 such groups targeted though some decided to not be part of the class action suit. Judges even had to warn the IRS to speed up its processes as they perceived the agency to be stonewalling.

@WhiteKnight77: It wasn't the Obama administrations fault that the VA had been degraded for decades (PS the Republicans keep voting against more funds for the VA), nor was it Obama's fault an individual in the IRS decided to push a terrible but very small policy on their own. Both were investigated thoroughly. What you are comparing it to is deliberate treason by one of Trump's nominees before he was put into office and that the President was told about it and did nothing and the Republicans are now trying to stop investigations into what was said and who knew (Trump may well have given the go ahead for all we know).

Has Putin nominated a successor for Flynn yet? :P

EDIT re the IRS "scandal" "In January 2014, the FBI told Fox News that its investigation had found no evidence so far warranting the filing of federal criminal charges in connection with the scandal, as it had not found any evidence of "enemy hunting", and that the investigation continued. On October 23, 2015, the Justice Department declared that no criminal charges would be filed."

Yup completely comparable.

Can't say I'm shocked about this, but I am shocked that Trump's cabinet is falling apart so soon!

Putin...Buddy...I'll have for flexibility after the election. Says Barry O.

Yet judges found enough merit to allow a class action lawsuit against the IRS. Every administration since Kennedy has had some sort of scandal at some time or another. Neither party has clean hands when it comes to running the country. It was even rumored that there was a deal between Reagan and the Iranians to release the hostages. While the Justice Department may not have filed criminal charges, even the IRS's own internal investigative department stated that the IRS targeted political groups when it should not have.

You may not have seen this either, Judicial Watch: FBI Investigation Documents of IRS Scandal

“These new smoking-gun documents show Obama FBI and Justice Department had plenty of evidence suggesting illegal targeting, perjury, and obstruction of justice,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Both the FBI and Justice Department collaborated with the Lois Lerner and the IRS to try to prosecute and jail Barack Obama’s political opponents. These FBI documents show the resulting compromised investigation looked the other way when it came to Obama’s IRS criminality.”

While not on the same level as treason, still shows that the Obama administration targeted political opponents even if Obama was not personally involved. The heads of those administrations still had to answer to Obama, yet he stood by them left and right no matter if Congress wanted to impeach at least one of those involved. No difference between Trump and Flynn. The public got what they wanted in Flynn resigning. Will the public know everything? Maybe, maybe not.

No the Obama administration didn't. One person within the IRS did it. It was fully investigated. Already some within the Republican party are saying that its done and Flynn shouldn't be investigated (horrifically Jason Chaffetz head of the oversight committee http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/14/calls-investigation-grow-jason-chaffetz-no-investigate-flynn.html) and this is the top of his department not some underling you are taking ministerial responsibilty for. Not sure whether you are deliberately not separating out the difference between the two or not?

lol judicalwatch is hardly an unbiased source to link to over what happened. I'll take the FBI and DOJ findings over it.

I could give you this: What FBI 'investigation' of the IRS scandal?

What did the FBI do in terms of investigating the obvious lies to Congress in 2012 by assorted IRS officials who claimed there was 'no targeting' of conservative organizations? Last time I checked, it is a felony to lie to Congress (ask Roger Clemens).

We know that the IRS admitted to such targeting even though it is illegal. Since such targeting was done, why no charges?

Another Judge Confirms: IRS Targeted Tea Party Groups

This recent ruling follows earlier court decisions against the IRS. Two federal appeals courts have also ruled against the IRS in unanimous decisions. The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals pointed out that:

“Among the most serious allegations a federal court can address are that an executive agency has targeted citizens for mistreatment based on their political views. No citizen—Republican or Democrat, socialist or libertarian —should be targeted or even have to fear being targeted on those grounds. Yet those are the grounds on which the plaintiffs allege they were mistreated by the IRS here. The allegations are substantial: most are drawn from findings made by the Treasury Department’s own Inspector General for Tax Administration. Those findings include that the IRS used political criteria to round up applications for tax-exempt status filed by so called tea-party groups; that the IRS often took four times as long to process tea-party applications as other applications; and that the IRS served tea-party applicants with crushing demands for what the Inspector General called ‘unnecessary information.’”

Again, multiple judges found that the IRS did just that, yet the Justice Department (whose head is an appointee and part of the Cabinet), glossed over such transgressions, which was part and parcel for the Obama administration. It may have one or two people doing such targeting, but they broke the law. We know that one woman pleaded the 5th in front of Congress, but answered some of those same questions with the FBI that did implicate herself. Strange that she wasn't arrested, don't you think?

You want to state Judicial Watch is biased, yet you choose one that has an managing editor who contributes to HuffPo. If you want to argue bias, do not use one just as biased for your point. Underlings or not, no one employed at a federal agency can target others for political beliefs and that is what happened at the IRS. That the head of the IRS stonewalled the investigation led to censure of said head at that time.

You're trying to move the goal posts and dodge the topic. Other wrongs do not make rights. This is a topic on Flynn and while the Huffington post can be deeply annoying and partizan it is not fake news. The article contains facts about what was stated today by Jason Caffetz. Please feel free to google from whatever site you wish about his comments. Trump knew weeks ago and did nothing. The administration lied to to the American people and even some Republicans are suggesting that Trump may have known and sanctioned the call.

Yeah I'm not a democrat or liberal, bringing up any wrongs of Obama's administration to refute this just makes me think you're as dumb as Conway or Spicer.

Not really trying to move the goal posts, but just showing how hypocritical people are. Many on the left also said that both Snowden and Manning should not be tried for treason yet they both released secrets into the wild and people on the left praised them, yet here we are discussing treason over someone who possibly discusses sanctions against a country that isn't an enemy (at least right now) and it is the left leading the call about it.

uh oh

For what its worth

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/republicans-want-flynn-investigations/index.html

At least some Republican senators are calling for an investigation into this shit.

Again you're justifying wrongs with other wrongs. Can't you stay on point without mentioning other incidents to try and damage control?