TV is 1080P but the games run at 720P most.

I've tried to only have 1080P checked on the PS3 but you can't unclick 480p(standard) and when I forced the BFBC2 to go on 1080P, the game hit 480P, very bad. Can the ps3 not upscale the games to 1080P? I'm guessing not because its native to 720P but most games I have are all 720P, not an issue but their is no way to upscale them?

Go to settings and then choose the games options and then turn on the ps upscaler option. I think that should work

yeah i have only ever played i think one game that did this. but yeah for the most part i think sony did this on purpose. untouchables111

720p looks amazing to me, so I'm don't bother trying to change it. Plus most games can't get 1080p

I've tried to only have 1080P checked on the PS3 but you can't unclick 480p(standard) and when I forced the BFBC2 to go on 1080P, the game hit 480P, very bad. Can the ps3 not upscale the games to 1080P? I'm guessing not because its native to 720P but most games I have are all 720P, not an issue but their is no way to upscale them?

SiKh22

Upscaling is pointless. It causes small images to be stretched and clean images to become blurry losing detail. Your TV upscales already. How do you think the picture fills the screen? ;)

Leave all resolutions check and let the GAME decide what the best resolution is for it to run at. Native resolution is ALWAYS > upscaled.

high def is over rated. It is just a fad right now. most of my friends have their 360s hooked to reg tube tvs. HD doenst make a bad game any better. My tv does 1080, but a game being in 720 doenst bother me. Heck, my Wii is my main system and i didnt get a PS3 until i got a HDTV for xmas. da_chub

No one said it makes a bad game better, but it does make all games LOOK better. So this post is terrible.

BF:BC2 ONLY says 720p on the back of the box. Even games that do say 1080p on the back of the box will sometimes (more often then not for me) automatically go down to 720p. Dead Space and Socom for example, the box says 720p & 1080p and they played at 720p on my tv. I forced them both to play at 1080p and they looked pretty damn bad, so i stuck to 720p which still looks great!.. samething goes for GTA4.

MGS4, GoW Collection and MW2 are games that automatically upscaled to 1080p and looked jst right.

yeah i have only ever played i think one game that did this. but yeah for the most part i think sony did this on purpose. untouchables111

[QUOTE="untouchables111"]yeah i have only ever played i think one game that did this. but yeah for the most part i think sony did this on purpose. codezer0

Ugh. Seriously dude?! You own a gaming PC. I'd expect you to know this.

The "other console" UPSCALES all games to 1080p. What does that mean? It means it's NOT Native. It does NOTHING, repeat, NOTHING for the image quality. In fact, it makes it worse.

I've got Photoshop and some free time if you'd like me to further illustrate my point.

>

Ugh. Seriously dude?! You own a gaming PC. I'd expect you to know this.

The "other console" UPSCALES all games to 1080p. What does that mean? It means it's NOT Native. It does NOTHING, repeat, NOTHING for the image quality. In fact, it makes it worse.

I've got Photoshop and some free time if you'd like me to further illustrate my point.

Ryan_Som

[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]>

Ugh. Seriously dude?! You own a gaming PC. I'd expect you to know this.

The "other console" UPSCALES all games to 1080p. What does that mean? It means it's NOT Native. It does NOTHING, repeat, NOTHING for the image quality. In fact, it makes it worse.

I've got Photoshop and some free time if you'd like me to further illustrate my point.

codezer0

1. I'm a graphic designer. Print media and resolution are kinda my thing. ;)

2. I own a Mitsubishi 1080p DLP HDTV. I don't think my TV is this problem. I've done the 720p to 1080p test with a 360 on a Plasma. Even the DASHBOARD looked worse when upscaled. Not a good deal worse, but worse nonetheless.

[QUOTE="SiKh22"]

I've tried to only have 1080P checked on the PS3 but you can't unclick 480p(standard) and when I forced the BFBC2 to go on 1080P, the game hit 480P, very bad. Can the ps3 not upscale the games to 1080P? I'm guessing not because its native to 720P but most games I have are all 720P, not an issue but their is no way to upscale them?

Ryan_Som

Upscaling is pointless. It causes small images to be stretched and clean images to become blurry losing detail. Your TV upscales already. How do you think the picture fills the screen? ;)

Leave all resolutions check and let the GAME decide what the best resolution is for it to run at. Native resolution is ALWAYS > upscaled.

1. I'm a graphic designer. Print media and resolution are kinda my thing. ;)

2. I own a Mitsubishi 1080p DLP HDTV. I don't think my TV is this problem. I've done the 720p to 1080p test with a 360 on a Plasma. Even the DASHBOARD looked worse when upscaled. Not a good deal worse, but worse nonetheless.

Ryan_Som

People need to realise that NEITHER of the console have the power to run games at 1080p.

[QUOTE="da_chub"]high def is over rated. It is just a fad right now. most of my friends have their 360s hooked to reg tube tvs. HD doenst make a bad game any better. My tv does 1080, but a game being in 720 doenst bother me. Heck, my Wii is my main system and i didnt get a PS3 until i got a HDTV for xmas. ParisHilton1Fan

No one said it makes a bad game better, but it does make all games LOOK better. So this post is terrible.

what brand is your tv? i never get such problem as long as game supports 1080P, and ps3 should have default video setting at auto which will max out your resolution.

[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

1. I'm a graphic designer. Print media and resolution are kinda my thing. ;)

2. I own a Mitsubishi 1080p DLP HDTV. I don't think my TV is this problem. I've done the 720p to 1080p test with a 360 on a Plasma. Even the DASHBOARD looked worse when upscaled. Not a good deal worse, but worse nonetheless.

codezer0

Mitsubishi makes the best DLPs on the market, Samsung the best LCDs and LEDs, and Pioneer the best Plasmas. You mentioned your roomie's TV brand, but failed to mention yours. Brand and size please? Full specs on mine: Mitsubishi 65" DLP Diamond Series HDTV:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mitsubishi+-+65%22+1080p+120Hz+DLP+HDTV/9330761.p?id=1218086215475&skuId=9330761&st=Mitsubishi%20DLP&cp=1&lp=4

And if you knew anything about the hardware between the two, you'd know there IS indeed a technical reason the PS3 can't output everything in 1080p. Hardware scaling vs Software scaling. The other console has a Hardware scaler which is why it can advertise having 1080p on everything. The PS3 uses Software scaling meaning that scaling has to be accounted for by developers and takes up some of the memory to utilize it.

The only real advantage the other console has with scaling options is for people who have TVs that only go up to 720i, seeing is the alternative would be 480p or 480i.

People need to realise that NEITHER of the console have the power to run games at 1080p.

kraken2109

THANK YOU! The only games either can run at true 1080p are simple downloadable games.

His is a Samsung 7100 series LED TV. Mine is a Vizio VA22LF. With 1080p, the jagged edges and pixeling on text and in-game graphics are gone. Most recent game I'd downloaded a demo of was the GoW 3 E3 demo... and it was pretty damned pixelated at 720p. Arkham Asylum and Uncharted 2 (demo) also do this - to a lesser extent, yes. But the pixeling and aliasing are still noticeable on the ps3, while Batman on the 360 didn't suffer this otherwise graphical anomaly. To date, the only game I've got on the ps3 that will run at 1080p is Ninja Gaiden. And that's pretty pathetic given all of Sony's hype and touting about it being "best console EVAR!1!" when you got to deal with junk like that.codezer0

My TV's better than yours. ;) Your friend's TV is nice though.

All kidding aside, if stuff is looking pixelated at 720p it's either a lack of AA on the game's part or settings on your TV. Batman on the 360 has 2xAA whereas the PS3 has none. The upscaling you used probably blurred the picture enough to drop the overall graphical fidelity whilst managing to work like extra AA by blurring the edges as well. Basically to get less jaggies you have to accept a worse picture overall.

As for the part I've highlighted above? I've already explained this. If you choose to not listen to my explanation, that's fine. More power to you. At this point though this thread really belongs in System Wars.

I've tried to only have 1080P checked on the PS3 but you can't unclick 480p(standard) and when I forced the BFBC2 to go on 1080P, the game hit 480P, very bad. Can the ps3 not upscale the games to 1080P? I'm guessing not because its native to 720P but most games I have are all 720P, not an issue but their is no way to upscale them?

SiKh22

[QUOTE="untouchables111"]yeah i have only ever played i think one game that did this. but yeah for the most part i think sony did this on purpose. codezer0

I prefer 1080p (all Bluray films are 1080p) but most games are made in 720p so cannot be up scaled. It tells you on the back of the game case what it's displayed in.groundgamer

[QUOTE="codezer0"][QUOTE="untouchables111"]yeah i have only ever played i think one game that did this. but yeah for the most part i think sony did this on purpose. Ryan_Som

Ugh. Seriously dude?! You own a gaming PC. I'd expect you to know this.

The "other console" UPSCALES all games to 1080p. What does that mean? It means it's NOT Native. It does NOTHING, repeat, NOTHING for the image quality. In fact, it makes it worse.

I've got Photoshop and some free time if you'd like me to further illustrate my point.

[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]>

Ugh. Seriously dude?! You own a gaming PC. I'd expect you to know this.

The "other console" UPSCALES all games to 1080p. What does that mean? It means it's NOT Native. It does NOTHING, repeat, NOTHING for the image quality. In fact, it makes it worse.

I've got Photoshop and some free time if you'd like me to further illustrate my point.

codezer0

[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

[QUOTE="SiKh22"]

I've tried to only have 1080P checked on the PS3 but you can't unclick 480p(standard) and when I forced the BFBC2 to go on 1080P, the game hit 480P, very bad. Can the ps3 not upscale the games to 1080P? I'm guessing not because its native to 720P but most games I have are all 720P, not an issue but their is no way to upscale them?

SiKh22

Upscaling is pointless. It causes small images to be stretched and clean images to become blurry losing detail. Your TV upscales already. How do you think the picture fills the screen? ;)

Leave all resolutions check and let the GAME decide what the best resolution is for it to run at. Native resolution is ALWAYS > upscaled.

[QUOTE="SiKh22"][QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

Upscaling is pointless. It causes small images to be stretched and clean images to become blurry losing detail. Your TV upscales already. How do you think the picture fills the screen? ;)

Leave all resolutions check and let the GAME decide what the best resolution is for it to run at. Native resolution is ALWAYS > upscaled.

shawty1984

Well it's nice to know somebody knows these things. :P

1. What signal does your set take 1080p 24/30/50/60 some sets require manual adjustment

2. What cable are you using is it component or hdmi

[QUOTE="SiKh22"][QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

Upscaling is pointless. It causes small images to be stretched and clean images to become blurry losing detail. Your TV upscales already. How do you think the picture fills the screen? ;)

Leave all resolutions check and let the GAME decide what the best resolution is for it to run at. Native resolution is ALWAYS > upscaled.

shawty1984

yes I know but filling the picture can be done by the view mode, because stretching the image is filling it right? It just looks worse. Please don't act like you are a Hi-def bigshot, I know about these things because I research before I buy but I just didn't know that most PS3 games can't be upscaled. geez aspect ratio.

My TV's better than yours. ;) Your friend's TV is nice though.

Ryan_Som

[QUOTE="Ryan_Som"]

My TV's better than yours. ;) Your friend's TV is nice though.

codezer0

Even based solely on size and brand quality alone I believe the above statement to be true.

Secondly, now you care about "faking" 1080p? Earlier you were singing the praises of the other console for doing just that! I'm not bashing you for your choice in TV, but it really seems like you're trolling now. The image quality roughly in the same realm between all of them with slight gains in different categories. DLPs are are cheaper and available in bigger sizes; LCDs are wall-mountable and have better viewing angles.

http://www.home-theater-automation-and-electronics.com/DLPvsLCD.html

No, I mean, that DLP and Plasma both come off to me as a tech that doesn't really have to make a serious effort at doing a given resolution/output, because it's not governed by the same rules of resolution that stuff like LCD and LED has. Given my room size and viewing distance, it simply doesn't make sense to have something in the 40+ inch area. I simply don't have the room for such a large set to begin with. So, the Vizio fits the bill of having the necessary pixel resolution I was looking for, and the comprehensive set of inputs. After all, I'm still rocking a dreamcast here, and my girlfriend has been helpful in scoring me a VGA box for it, which means that quite literally, every input this TV has is occupied between my gaming systems. And personally I just have a ton of beefs with Plasma, especially in regard to gaming. That's not to say I don't recognize the advantage(s) it did have. But now with LED TV's out there, and seeing them in person, it seems that pretty much all of those benefits have been effectively erased or done now with LED. About the only thing that would keep me from getting one for myself, is money.codezer0

That makes sense. Yeah, for what it's worth these days when it comes to both space and quality LED is the way to go.

[QUOTE="untouchables111"]yeah i have only ever played i think one game that did this. but yeah for the most part i think sony did this on purpose. MushroomWig

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="SiKh22"] I don't think filling the picture has to do with upscaling, any HDTV can fill the screen by the view mode settings. after looking into the games simply don't want to go past 720p/1080i, if you force them they go to 480p, standard def looks worse on hi-def lol. SiKh22

yes I know but filling the picture can be done by the view mode, because stretching the image is filling it right? It just looks worse. Please don't act like you are a Hi-def bigshot, I know about these things because I research before I buy but I just didn't know that most PS3 games can't be upscaled. geez aspect ratio.

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="untouchables111"]yeah i have only ever played i think one game that did this. but yeah for the most part i think sony did this on purpose. Elian2530

what tv brand and model do you have? i know many generic brand tv has this problem too