Can there be a SOCOM 5?

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#1 Posted by sagejonathan (515 posts) -
I know that Zipper Interactive is now dead but I have a question. Does Sony keep the franchises Zipper made? So another dev under Sony can take the task of making a new SOCOM? I just got SOCOM 4 (I'm a newbie) and beat the campaign so i'm curious. I also have MAG and poured over 300 hours of my life onto it; I'd love to see a MAG 2 also. If I am right, then I think they should put someone in charge to mae a SOCOM 5 and release a SOCOM HD collection to revive interest. anyone agree?
#2 Posted by MethodManFTW (26145 posts) -
Man... I dunno. MAG is my favorite online shooter of all time but... I dunno man. Really I can't see either of those franchise get revived. SOCOM is a really big name, but after Confrontation and 4...
#3 Posted by 2Chalupas (5383 posts) -
Most likely SOCOM is now a dead IP. They COULD just hand it over to a different developer as I'm sure Sony owns the IP, I just wouldn't really expect it considering SOCOM 4 was a commercial failure. Maybe as a VITA game or something, but I don't see them making another big budget SOCOM game for a long, long time (if ever). MAG also was a relative sales failure so I wouldn't necessarily expect a followup to that title either. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see them make a more "hardcore" tactical shooter (rather than sci-fi shooters like Resistance and Killzone) and why not use the SOCOM franchise name to do it? But with the sales of the last game and the way it went out I don't think there is much hope for that right now... It's kind of a shame because SOCOM 4 really wasn't terrible at all as a straight 3rd person shooter, it was actually pretty good. It just missed the niche it needed to fall into in order to sell. Basically the game pissed off SOCOM fans, and didn't bring in any new fans. Thus the game failed.
#4 Posted by TyberZannxxxx (712 posts) -

If Sony can find another developer, then yes.

#5 Posted by robmonga2 (1193 posts) -

I would love to see a great SOCOM title next gen, cause I didn't see one this one.

#6 Posted by barry000 (838 posts) -

after the same guys who created the socom series ruined it with socom 4? i don't want to see another socom game ever again if the same guys are making it. i've been playing socom since socom 1 back in 2002 and socom 4 was nothing but a call of duty wannabe that didn't sell very good. socom 4 sucked and i bet most of the other guys that have been with socom since day 1 just like me didn't even touch socom 4. i never bought socom 4 but i was in the beta and it sucked. socom confrontation was more of a true socom game than socom 4 was. just saying the name even gets me mad.

#7 Posted by 2Chalupas (5383 posts) -

after the same guys who created the socom series ruined it with socom 4? i don't want to see another socom game ever again if the same guys are making it. i've been playing socom since socom 1 back in 2002 and socom 4 was nothing but a call of duty wannabe that didn't sell very good. socom 4 sucked and i bet most of the other guys that have been with socom since day 1 just like me didn't even touch socom 4. i never bought socom 4 but i was in the beta and it sucked. socom confrontation was more of a true socom game than socom 4 was. just saying the name even gets me mad.

barry000

Well you won't have to see another game at all from Zipper, since Sony closed the studio. :(

Honestly they did make plenty of terrible decisions with Socom 4, but they were more issues at the design/conception stage. The game engine was quite solid (on PS3, it runs much smoother than Call of Duty for sure), hit detections was excellent, game ran really smooth online with 64(?) players, etc. The technical guys did a good job both with the engine and servers, but whoever was in charge of the game failed to allow it to have been so "stripped down" in the squad controls. The main issue was that it was "dumbed down" from the get go.

I'm not sure if this studio was beyond making a great SOCOM game for this (or next) generation, so it was a shame to shut them down completely. Granted MAG was also a rather "middling" game for different reasons (256 players = great, servers = great, but terrible dated graphics and vehicle play were kind of embarassing). Granted the reason for why they were shut down was terrible sales, and the reality is even if they made a brilliant tactical SOCOM game, it still might have sold like crap and the end result have been the same. But at least SOCOM fans would have had a better game to play. Hopefully Sony gives another studio to make a better tactical TPS (or tactical FPS), I'd love to see Geurilla games do a tactical shooter rather than rehash more Killzone.

#8 Posted by -ArchAngeL-777- (3832 posts) -

[QUOTE="barry000"]

after the same guys who created the socom series ruined it with socom 4? i don't want to see another socom game ever again if the same guys are making it. i've been playing socom since socom 1 back in 2002 and socom 4 was nothing but a call of duty wannabe that didn't sell very good. socom 4 sucked and i bet most of the other guys that have been with socom since day 1 just like me didn't even touch socom 4. i never bought socom 4 but i was in the beta and it sucked. socom confrontation was more of a true socom game than socom 4 was. just saying the name even gets me mad.

2Chalupas

Well you won't have to see another game at all from Zipper, since Sony closed the studio. :(

Honestly they did make plenty of terrible decisions with Socom 4, but they were more issues at the design/conception stage. The game engine was quite solid (on PS3, it runs much smoother than Call of Duty for sure), hit detections was excellent, game ran really smooth online with 64(?) players, etc. The technical guys did a good job both with the engine and servers, but whoever was in charge of the game failed to allow it to have been so "stripped down" in the squad controls. The main issue was that it was "dumbed down" from the get go.

I'm not sure if this studio was beyond making a great SOCOM game for this (or next) generation, so it was a shame to shut them down completely. Granted MAG was also a rather "middling" game for different reasons (256 players = great, servers = great, but terrible dated graphics and vehicle play were kind of embarassing). Granted the reason for why they were shut down was terrible sales, and the reality is even if they made a brilliant tactical SOCOM game, it still might have sold like crap and the end result have been the same. But at least SOCOM fans would have had a better game to play. Hopefully Sony gives another studio to make a better tactical TPS (or tactical FPS), I'd love to see Geurilla games do a tactical shooter rather than rehash more Killzone.

The problem has been terrible launch content. MAG did not launch with enough modes. They later added Interdiction and Escalation. Escalation at least should have been a launch game mode. MAG also did not have balanced factions to begin with. SVER attracted too many of the Beta players because their maps are far easier to figure out how to defend. Swapping the maps around like they did later on enhanced the gameplay as well. Socom 4 had similar issues. It started with the lack of any classic game modes at launch. Demolition at least should have been included. Then there was the awful decision to bring the cover system into online play. Again, we got generic multi-mode COD style maps from Zipper. They never should have left the single-mode map format of Socom 1 and 2. That decision alone was the death of Breach, Extraction, and Escort game modes. Who wants to play Crossroads breach? Seriously. If they give it to a studio that will take the series back to its roots, then Socom 5 will be a welcome sight. They give it to someone who picks up where Zipper left off, and they might as well just skip it and save themselves the heartache and lost money.
#9 Posted by SgtSutton (430 posts) -

I'd much rather see a MAG 2 than a SOCOM 5, when you got into a good server with balanced team MAG was one of my favorite shooters, the 256 player games was solid and something i wish other games would utilize (BF3 i'm looking at you).

I do think that SOCOM 5 is much more likely though, its much more recognizable

#10 Posted by Slinqy (245 posts) -

Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely to happen anytime soon? Definately not. After Combined Assault SOCOM really went down the tubes. I was infinitely disappointed with SOCOM 4. Confrontation felt more true to the classic SOCOM than SOCOM 4 was, and Confrontation really had some major issues.

I wouldn't mind seeing a MAG 2, honestly. I felt the gameplay, maps, and movement could've been improved upon, as well as the graphics, but it was overall a fun game to play, even though the scope of combat was a little too big for my taste. Platoon-sized teams would've made combat less hectic and ridiculous.

Anyway, I'm all for more SOCOM and MAG, PROVIDED, of course, they're done right, especially SOCOM. If that series is taken up again the developers need to take things back to basics, which is what made SOCOM so great in the past. The movement was fast-paced, and bullets actually went where you aimed and fired, lol.

So, let's just look forward to the future and hope for the best.

#11 Posted by tp1231 (25 posts) -
i have heard rumours that slant 6 are releasing socom 5 in 2013 but the are just rumours the online play engine is meant to be the same as the mag engine (not the graphical engine i mean the amount of players in one game confrontation was the last half decent socom game to hit the shelves i didnt buy socom confrontation until 2010 but i knew it wasnt the best socom game ever but it was a good game yes quite a few bad things about it bad controls bad graphics but all in all a good game
#12 Posted by SolidTy (46196 posts) -

Sony owns the IP, so of course their COULD be a SOCOM 5.

The question is, will there be?

It depends if the right talent comes along and impresses Sony enough to revive the IP. It probably won't happen, but it could happen technically.

#13 Posted by chaotzu (773 posts) -
No. It's dead. It had 2 tries this gen and they both flop. Sony wouldn't dare stick the SOCOM name on another shooter because the name now is attached to bad games in the consumers eyes. No one in they're right minds at Sony would greenlight a SOCOM game if they want to keep they're jobs. Plus, we're quite a few years from Y2K. Another military shooter comes out every month so SOCOM no longer stands out like it used to. It's now just shooter #12352342.
#14 Posted by lensflare15 (6196 posts) -

If so, it should be for the Vita.

#15 Posted by Eikichi-Onizuka (8201 posts) -
I think the series is dead at this point. Which is a shame since the PS2 Socom games were fun.
#16 Posted by gamenerd15 (4476 posts) -

If Sony can find a Sanzaru games like developer with that has a passion for SOCOM, then yes, there could be.

#17 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10644 posts) -
I rather have MAG 2 next gen than Socom 5.
#18 Posted by volume_three (2142 posts) -

I'd much prefer a HD collection containing 1, 2 and 3