Sorry haters, SOCOM 4 multiplayer is AWESOME!

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#1 Posted by Jason_A (2121 posts) -

I love the old SOCOM games and miss a lot about them that was changed in SOCOM 4, but regardless, SOCOM 4 online is pure incredibly fun tactical multiplayer greatness!!!!

(I am talking about Classic Mode though - I haven't bothered to touch Standard Mode).

#2 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

Yep. I agree.

Most the old school players just want the same Socom I think and I guess this one is a bit different.

The first few games I didn't know if I liked it or not but after about 4 or 5 games I was having a really great time. It's really great fun.

#3 Posted by Jason_A (2121 posts) -

Yep. I agree.

Most the old school players just want the same Socom I think and I guess this one is a bit different.

The first few games I didn't know if I liked it or not but after about 4 or 5 games I was having a really great time. It's really great fun.

BSC14
Took me about 4-5 games too. 1 or 2 games in I was actually disappointed with the game but by game 4 or 5, I was hooked.
#4 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

[QUOTE="BSC14"]

Yep. I agree.

Most the old school players just want the same Socom I think and I guess this one is a bit different.

The first few games I didn't know if I liked it or not but after about 4 or 5 games I was having a really great time. It's really great fun.

Jason_A

Took me about 4-5 games too. 1 or 2 games in I was actually disappointed with the game but by game 4 or 5, I was hooked.

Yeah same for me. At first I thought..."oh man I just don't know about this game". But after getting used to the controls and whatnot it was crazy fun.

I do think head shots are a little to easy to get and the camera bugs me when I'm backed up to something...how it zooms in and out. But you get used to it I guess.

It's only going to get better too...I bet they start adding maps and stuff pretty soon. I have a code for some kind of download but the store is down still so I have no idea what it is.

#5 Posted by imthebest6 (1040 posts) -

Obviously it needs a party system, the camera is no good and do you guys feel the aiming could use work? When you move left to right it starts off very slow then bam your crosshairs fly to the side really quickly. Co op is amazing by the way I had my first playthrough yesterday :)

#6 Posted by imthebest6 (1040 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jason_A"][QUOTE="BSC14"]

Yep. I agree.

Most the old school players just want the same Socom I think and I guess this one is a bit different.

The first few games I didn't know if I liked it or not but after about 4 or 5 games I was having a really great time. It's really great fun.

BSC14

Took me about 4-5 games too. 1 or 2 games in I was actually disappointed with the game but by game 4 or 5, I was hooked.

Yeah same for me. At first I thought..."oh man I just don't know about this game". But after getting used to the controls and whatnot it was crazy fun.

I do think head shots are a little to easy to get and the camera bugs me when I'm backed up to something...how it zooms in and out. But you get used to it I guess.

It's only going to get better too...I bet they start adding maps and stuff pretty soon. I have a code for some kind of download but the store is down still so I have no idea what it is.

The headshots definitely need to be be fixed its really annoying how the majority of the kills are headshots.

#7 Posted by -ArchAngeL-777- (3786 posts) -
Sorry, but you clearly need to spend some time back on Socom 2. There are about 150 people nightly playing (at least there was during the PSN outage). The difference in the gameplay is night and day vs Socom 4: 1) Single mode maps are far better and provide a far better gameplay atmosphere. It puts you right in the shoes of Seals or terrorists. 2) The only scopes are on sniper rifles and one or two assault rifles with a heavy breathing motion. In other words, not a lot of sniping or laying in bushes. The game is very close quarters. 3) The rounds rarely last 5 minutes and usually are over in 2.5-3 minutes. No sitting there waiting for someone to decide to move out of whatever bush they are hiding in. 4) Socom 4 game modes are right out of COD. There is nothing more going on in classic Socom 4 than there is in COD Search and Destroy. IMO Socom 4 is not a great Socom, but the standard respawn mode is better than current COD games.
#8 Posted by imthebest6 (1040 posts) -

Sorry, but you clearly need to spend some time back on Socom 2. There are about 150 people nightly playing (at least there was during the PSN outage). The difference in the gameplay is night and day vs Socom 4: 1) Single mode maps are far better and provide a far better gameplay atmosphere. It puts you right in the shoes of Seals or terrorists. 2) The only scopes are on sniper rifles and one or two assault rifles with a heavy breathing motion. In other words, not a lot of sniping or laying in bushes. The game is very close quarters. 3) The rounds rarely last 5 minutes and usually are over in 2.5-3 minutes. No sitting there waiting for someone to decide to move out of whatever bush they are hiding in. 4) Socom 4 game modes are right out of COD. There is nothing more going on in classic Socom 4 than there is in COD Search and Destroy. IMO Socom 4 is not a great Socom, but the standard respawn mode is better than current COD games.-ArchAngeL-777-

I really think the scopes in socom 4 are brutal. The snipers don't see very far unlike the old games where you could see the pimples on a guys face. The assault rifles barely zoom in when you use R3 even with the high quality scopes.

#9 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

Sorry, but you clearly need to spend some time back on Socom 2. There are about 150 people nightly playing (at least there was during the PSN outage). The difference in the gameplay is night and day vs Socom 4: 1) Single mode maps are far better and provide a far better gameplay atmosphere. It puts you right in the shoes of Seals or terrorists. 2) The only scopes are on sniper rifles and one or two assault rifles with a heavy breathing motion. In other words, not a lot of sniping or laying in bushes. The game is very close quarters. 3) The rounds rarely last 5 minutes and usually are over in 2.5-3 minutes. No sitting there waiting for someone to decide to move out of whatever bush they are hiding in. 4) Socom 4 game modes are right out of COD. There is nothing more going on in classic Socom 4 than there is in COD Search and Destroy. IMO Socom 4 is not a great Socom, but the standard respawn mode is better than current COD games.-ArchAngeL-777-

I don't need to play Socom 2 to know I enjoy Socom 4.

Different games I'm sure. I can see Socom 4 being around a long time.

#10 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

I really think the scopes in socom 4 are brutal. The snipers don't see very far unlike the old games where you could see the pimples on a guys face. The assault rifles barely zoom in when you use R3 even with the high quality scopes.

imthebest6

I don't even use a scope assault rifle....it does not seem to really help imo. In fact the movment seems off when you use a scope imo and I keep going in to zoom when I don't want to. So I just took it off. :)

#11 Posted by -ArchAngeL-777- (3786 posts) -

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Sorry, but you clearly need to spend some time back on Socom 2. There are about 150 people nightly playing (at least there was during the PSN outage). The difference in the gameplay is night and day vs Socom 4: 1) Single mode maps are far better and provide a far better gameplay atmosphere. It puts you right in the shoes of Seals or terrorists. 2) The only scopes are on sniper rifles and one or two assault rifles with a heavy breathing motion. In other words, not a lot of sniping or laying in bushes. The game is very close quarters. 3) The rounds rarely last 5 minutes and usually are over in 2.5-3 minutes. No sitting there waiting for someone to decide to move out of whatever bush they are hiding in. 4) Socom 4 game modes are right out of COD. There is nothing more going on in classic Socom 4 than there is in COD Search and Destroy. IMO Socom 4 is not a great Socom, but the standard respawn mode is better than current COD games.BSC14

I don't need to play Socom 2 to know I enjoy Socom 4.

Different games I'm sure. I can see Socom 4 being around a long time.

No but if you had played Socom 2, then you would know why the vets of the series don't like Socom 4. More to the point, you would know why there are a lot of Socom 4 haters. The series has never been the same since Socom 3, when Zipper decided to go to multi-mode maps and put scopes on everything. Notice how there isnt any Breach, Extraction, or Escort modes? These are all classic Socom modes that were ruined by Mulit-mode maps. No one played them because the multi-mode maps couldn't be configured to make viable maps for these mode. they were a joke. Zipper had to can them and go to COD style modes like Uplink. If you like Socom 4 thats fine, but these are the reasons long-time fans of the series dont like it. Ironically, most vets play the Socom 4 standard respawn mode over classic mode. Its better than current COD gameplay. That 's significant because Respawn used to be sort of a joke in Socom.
#12 Posted by BigBoss255 (3538 posts) -

Yep. I agree.

Most the old school players just want the same Socom I think and I guess this one is a bit different.

The first few games I didn't know if I liked it or not but after about 4 or 5 games I was having a really great time. It's really great fun.

BSC14
I told you it was good, you can repay me in blood.
#13 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

No but if you had played Socom 2, then you would know why the vets of the series don't like Socom 4. More to the point, you would know why there are a lot of Socom 4 haters. The series has never been the same since Socom 3, when Zipper decided to go to multi-mode maps and put scopes on everything. Notice how there isnt any Breach, Extraction, or Escort modes? These are all classic Socom modes that were ruined by Mulit-mode maps. No one played them because the multi-mode maps couldn't be configured to make viable maps for these mode. they were a joke. Zipper had to can them and go to COD style modes like Uplink. If you like Socom 4 thats fine, but these are the reasons long-time fans of the series dont like it. Ironically, most vets play the Socom 4 standard respawn mode over classic mode. Its better than current COD gameplay. That 's significant because Respawn used to be sort of a joke in Socom.-ArchAngeL-777-

Well I understand but you can take the game for what it is and understand it's different now or you can miss out on a different but good game.

I know how you feel...I hate that they changed Ghost Recon. It's a whole different game than what it was when it first came out. But am I going to skip the next one....nope. Because it's a different game than what it was years ago does not mean I can't enjoy it for what it is. IMO should it be called Ghost Recon? Nope but it is what it is.

#14 Posted by L1D3N (717 posts) -

SOCOM 4 ROCKS!

#15 Posted by jsh020 (1168 posts) -

its not a problem with the game being too different fromt he rest its that this has lost its identity, its just another repetitive shooter in the crowd of terrible generic shooters, im disapointed in zipper, after mag i thought they were the only people that coud get a online games thats tactical

#16 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

its not a problem with the game being too different fromt he rest its that this has lost its identity, its just another repetitive shooter in the crowd of terrible generic shooters, im disapointed in zipper, after mag i thought they were the only people that coud get a online games thats tactical

jsh020

The problem the old school fans are having is that it's different than it was. I get it. It's still a good game (at leat the multiplayer)and a lot of fun.

#17 Posted by JoKeR_421 (8920 posts) -
yea, this game is awesome. while i do own most of the socom games. specially socom 2. but i love socom 4 specially since i have a bunch of ppl to play with, makes it more fun for me. so far it has a decently good community. im sure it will grow now that psn is back
#18 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

Anyone know what the download content is that comes with the game?

#19 Posted by ultraking (6904 posts) -
Told y'all socom 4 was a beast lol.. best TPS out there
#20 Posted by Flame_Blade88 (39348 posts) -
I was playing it online for the first time today, I came away very pleased with it.
#21 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

Anyone know what the download content is that comes with the game?

With the store down you can collect it yet.

#22 Posted by ultraking (6904 posts) -

Anyone know what the download content is that comes with the game?

With the store down you can collect it yet.

BSC14
its a shotgun and classic abandoned map.. I was lucky enough to input my codes before the network went down
#23 Posted by redskins2156 (2553 posts) -

This is no different than uncharted multiplayer.

Yep. I agree.

Most the old school players just want the same Socom I think and I guess this one is a bit different.

The first few games I didn't know if I liked it or not but after about 4 or 5 games I was having a really great time. It's really great fun.

BSC14

#24 Posted by -ArchAngeL-777- (3786 posts) -

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]No but if you had played Socom 2, then you would know why the vets of the series don't like Socom 4. More to the point, you would know why there are a lot of Socom 4 haters. The series has never been the same since Socom 3, when Zipper decided to go to multi-mode maps and put scopes on everything. Notice how there isnt any Breach, Extraction, or Escort modes? These are all classic Socom modes that were ruined by Mulit-mode maps. No one played them because the multi-mode maps couldn't be configured to make viable maps for these mode. they were a joke. Zipper had to can them and go to COD style modes like Uplink. If you like Socom 4 thats fine, but these are the reasons long-time fans of the series dont like it. Ironically, most vets play the Socom 4 standard respawn mode over classic mode. Its better than current COD gameplay. That 's significant because Respawn used to be sort of a joke in Socom.BSC14

Well I understand but you can take the game for what it is and understand it's different now or you can miss out on a different but good game.

I know how you feel...I hate that they changed Ghost Recon. It's a whole different game than what it was when it first came out. But am I going to skip the next one....nope. Because it's a different game than what it was years ago does not mean I can't enjoy it for what it is. IMO should it be called Ghost Recon? Nope but it is what it is.

I didnt skip it actually. I had friends getting it, and the beta was good enough. TC was going on about the haters, so I explained the hate. A lot of Socom vets got the game, but like I said, they play respawn which is unusual. Usually they ignore respawn for classic mode. They (like myself) view it as a game worth playing, but not from a strictly Socom standpoint.
#25 Posted by ultraking (6904 posts) -
Just went 34 and 12..also getting 2 uplinks..this game is mad fun
#26 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

This is no different than uncharted multiplayer.redskins2156

I wouldnt know....I'm not a fan of Uncharted so I didn't get the 2nd one.

#27 Posted by hyperjj3000 (973 posts) -

Since i havent played any socom game, i might pick this up sometime, i usually like games that get hated on;)

#28 Posted by Tommy8930 (360 posts) -

yes the online is awsome i 'am loving it i just need to get a headset and iam set

#29 Posted by ACx7 (6222 posts) -

Told y'all socom 4 was a beast lol.. best TPS out thereultraking

Gears of War and Uncharted would like a word with you.

#30 Posted by RJDHeadshot (46 posts) -

I like Socom, but the online play is slightly dissapointing. I think it is because I am not use to all the online funtionality of XBL, but I'm getting used to it. The actual gameplay is very fun though! Quick question, whats the difference between classic game modes and the standard game mode?

#31 Posted by RJDHeadshot (46 posts) -

[QUOTE="ultraking"]Told y'all socom 4 was a beast lol.. best TPS out thereACx7

Gears of War and Uncharted would like a word with you.

+1
#32 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

IMO Socom 4 is WAY better than Gears of War's multiplayer.

#33 Posted by Malta_1980 (11215 posts) -

SOCOM is great, personally its a solid 8.5/10... still havent finished the sp campaign, but online is great... Co-op can be so much fun specially with friends

#34 Posted by DevilishStyles (766 posts) -

No, Socom 4 is the epitome of garbage. Forget about the true veterans and try to cash in on Call of Duty players who DO-NOT-CARE about Socom = low scores = low sales = small community = DLC pricing is pointless = low profit. But I'm not surprised if they do profit on it, because the game feels so low budget to the point where they couldn't get the rights to use real life gun names. Pathetic. Zipper, thanks for Socom 2 but I think you should stick to making PSP games.

#35 Posted by MaKillaGorilla (298 posts) -

Actually the community is really starting to kick in, I have yet to play a game that was not full. No one uses mics so that is a little annoying because it does show the more casual gamer is playing but hey, you work with what you got. I just hope people that really like playing some Socom eventually get off theirhigh horses and make the new Socom as the old ones were.

#36 Posted by JoKeR_421 (8920 posts) -

I like Socom, but the online play is slightly dissapointing. I think it is because I am not use to all the online funtionality of XBL, but I'm getting used to it. The actual gameplay is very fun though! Quick question, whats the difference between classic game modes and the standard game mode?

RJDHeadshot
XBL? u sure u on the right board lol
#37 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

No, Socom 4 is the epitome of garbage. Forget about the true veterans and try to cash in on Call of Duty players who DO-NOT-CARE about Socom = low scores = low sales = small community = DLC pricing is pointless = low profit. But I'm not surprised if they do profit on it, because the game feels so low budget to the point where they couldn't get the rights to use real life gun names. Pathetic. Zipper, thanks for Socom 2 but I think you should stick to making PSP games.

DevilishStyles

If you were to say the single player is garbage then I would sayI agree with you 100% because it is total crap.

But to say that the multiplayer is garbage is just crazy. It's a great game for online play and you sound like an old school vet pissed off because they didn't make the game you expected. I understand that feeling...it was the same for me with Ghost Recon.

#39 Posted by ultraking (6904 posts) -

[QUOTE="ultraking"]Told y'all socom 4 was a beast lol.. best TPS out thereACx7

Gears of War and Uncharted would like a word with you.

haven't played gears, but socom is wayyyyy better than uncharted
#40 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

[QUOTE="ACx7"]

[QUOTE="ultraking"]Told y'all socom 4 was a beast lol.. best TPS out thereultraking

Gears of War and Uncharted would like a word with you.

haven't played gears, but socom is wayyyyy better than uncharted

Well it's WAY better than gears as well. I like GoW but for online I would take Socom anyday over GoW.

#41 Posted by The_Rick_14 (9937 posts) -

I like Socom, but the online play is slightly dissapointing. I think it is because I am not use to all the online funtionality of XBL, but I'm getting used to it. The actual gameplay is very fun though! Quick question, whats the difference between classic game modes and the standard game mode?

RJDHeadshot

Standard involves 32 player respawn games with regenerating health and eTags (the red diamonds over the heads of people who are shooting). Classic is no-respawn round based games without regenerating health while in round and aids to find the enemy are removed. The objectives can also be slightly tweaked. For instance, standard uplink has 3 data centers where I believe Classic uplink only has 2. Things like that.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that classic is also 16 player rooms I believe.

#42 Posted by hanslacher54 (3720 posts) -

[QUOTE="ACx7"]

[QUOTE="ultraking"]Told y'all socom 4 was a beast lol.. best TPS out thereultraking

Gears of War and Uncharted would like a word with you.

haven't played gears, but socom is wayyyyy better than uncharted

Uncharted 2: over 100 GOTY awards won

Socom 4: Most likely won't even be nominated for anything

#43 Posted by RJDHeadshot (46 posts) -
Thank you!
#44 Posted by ACx7 (6222 posts) -
Wow. I wont get in to this. But fundamentally Gears is light years ahead of SOCOM 4 in multi player. Uncharted multi player has a few quirks. Hopefully they will fix them for U3.
#45 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="ACx7"]

Gears of War and Uncharted would like a word with you.

hanslacher54

haven't played gears, but socom is wayyyyy better than uncharted

Uncharted 2: over 100 GOTY awards won

Socom 4: Most likely won't even be nominated for anything

Well Uncharted's single player from what I hear anyway is really good. Socom's single player is crap so yeah Socom's not going to be GOTY for anyone. Still the Socom 4 multiplayer is great. And winning 100 GOTY awards is not going to make it more fun for me.

#46 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

Wow. I wont get in to this. But fundamentally Gears is light years ahead of SOCOM 4 in multi player. Uncharted multi player has a few quirks. Hopefully they will fix them for U3. ACx7

No, please do. I want to hear how Gears is "light years ahead" of Socom 4. I reeeealy want to know. I have played every gears and imo the Socom multiplayer is MUCH more fun than gears. Now single player is a different story but how you can say that "fundamentally Gears is light years ahead of SOCOM 4 in multi player" is just beyond me.

#47 Posted by donalbane (16203 posts) -
I tried the beta and didn't care for it at all. Is the retail version better? (I'm more of a Killzone 3 kinda' guy.)
#48 Posted by BSC14 (3678 posts) -

I tried the beta and didn't care for it at all. Is the retail version better? (I'm more of a Killzone 3 kinda' guy.)donalbane

I didn't get to play the beta so I can't say but I know they patched a few things before it came out.

#49 Posted by RJDHeadshot (46 posts) -
I was thinking about getting Uncharted 2, how does the multiplayer rank compared to gears and socom?
#50 Posted by bobdood99 (1862 posts) -
If it's anything like the beta, I won't like it.