InFamous ending (SPOILERS!!!)

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#1 Posted by bmart777 (220 posts) -

holy crap what a game. I always had this thought the Kessler was cole from the future due to the fact he kind of looks like him.

But i love how Sucker Punch led it into a sequel story

lets hear your thoughts :)

#2 Posted by guynamedbilly (12967 posts) -

I liked it too and it's pretty obvious that they are planning on a sequel. I just hope it's not too long of a wait. I particularly like the boss fights on hard difficulty anyways. They reminded me of some old arcade games in their difficulty.

#3 Posted by Nephilim83 (4378 posts) -
[QUOTE="bmart777"]

holy crap what a game. I always had this thought the Kessler was cole from the future due to the fact he kind of looks like him.

But i love how Sucker Punch led it into a sequel story

lets hear your thoughts :)

Yeah, I always thought they looked similar, but I never would have guessed it. Its fun playing through the second time, because knowing that one detail makes so much of what they say throughout the game make perfect sense. Like the way Sasha was always acting like Cole was her lover.... He was! Well his future self was anyway. Its real cool. There is just ONE tiny detail that bugs the crap out of me, and I was wondering what anyone else thought: Kessler came back in time to help make himself more powerful so he could defeat the monster, right? So Kessler actually had powers already BEFORE he came back (that's actually how he came back). But then the entire game is about is about how the Ray Sphere's blast gave Cole powers. Right? If Kessler made Cole set off the Ray Sphere and gain powers then how did he have the powers he already had before he came back in time? Or was it that the Ray Sphere was simply supposed to awaken Cole's powers prematurely and concentrate them at a fuller force or something? I really wish there was some explanation for that. :(
#4 Posted by Fizzman (9884 posts) -

i really enjoyed the ending, and made the game alot better since it made the story alot more interesting overall. Looking forward to the sequel.

#5 Posted by Nephilim83 (4378 posts) -

I liked it too and it's pretty obvious that they are planning on a sequel. I just hope it's not too long of a wait. I particularly like the boss fights on hard difficulty anyways. They reminded me of some old arcade games in their difficulty.

guynamedbilly
Heck yeah, dude the hard difficulty makes this game so much more fun. Its more challenging but not punishing. You just have to use more of your defensive abilities like dodge rolls, flips, cover, and electric shield. But then after playing through as hard go back and play on Easy.... OMG you feel like Zeus himself!
#6 Posted by XturnalS (5018 posts) -

Yeah the story was awesome, I loved the story and even though some of it was cliched, it ranks up there as one of the best superhero origin stories. I can't wait to see where sucker punch takes this story.

Should be good and I can't wait.

#7 Posted by Hulk965 (241 posts) -

When Cole said figured the plot i sat in my chair and wondered what the hell was happening, but after i figured out i thought it was awsome, i seriously had no idea Kessler was Cole so i kinda was like this :shock: Awesome game by the way

#8 Posted by Nephilim83 (4378 posts) -
Know what else it cool? If you finish the game evil the sky is blood red and you have that wicked black lightning. Just looks awesome. I have an evil and a good end game both saved just for the heck of it. Also, who was sad about how Zeke turned out? He was awesome at first. :(
#9 Posted by bmart777 (220 posts) -

[QUOTE="bmart777"]

holy crap what a game. I always had this thought the Kessler was cole from the future due to the fact he kind of looks like him.

But i love how Sucker Punch led it into a sequel story

lets hear your thoughts :)

Nephilim83

Yeah, I always thought they looked similar, but I never would have guessed it. Its fun playing through the second time, because knowing that one detail makes so much of what they say throughout the game make perfect sense. Like the way Sasha was always acting like Cole was her lover.... He was! Well his future self was anyway. Its real cool. There is just ONE tiny detail that bugs the crap out of me, and I was wondering what anyone else thought: Kessler came back in time to help make himself more powerful so he could defeat the monster, right? So Kessler actually had powers already BEFORE he came back (that's actually how he came back). But then the entire game is about is about how the Ray Sphere's blast gave Cole powers. Right? If Kessler made Cole set off the Ray Sphere and gain powers then how did he have the powers he already had before he came back in time? Or was it that the Ray Sphere was simply supposed to awaken Cole's powers prematurely and concentrate them at a fuller force or something? I really wish there was some explanation for that. :(

ya i wondering the same thing.

i bet they explain it in the sequel

#10 Posted by guynamedbilly (12967 posts) -
[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="bmart777"]

holy crap what a game. I always had this thought the Kessler was cole from the future due to the fact he kind of looks like him.

But i love how Sucker Punch led it into a sequel story

lets hear your thoughts :)

Yeah, I always thought they looked similar, but I never would have guessed it. Its fun playing through the second time, because knowing that one detail makes so much of what they say throughout the game make perfect sense. Like the way Sasha was always acting like Cole was her lover.... He was! Well his future self was anyway. Its real cool. There is just ONE tiny detail that bugs the crap out of me, and I was wondering what anyone else thought: Kessler came back in time to help make himself more powerful so he could defeat the monster, right? So Kessler actually had powers already BEFORE he came back (that's actually how he came back). But then the entire game is about is about how the Ray Sphere's blast gave Cole powers. Right? If Kessler made Cole set off the Ray Sphere and gain powers then how did he have the powers he already had before he came back in time? Or was it that the Ray Sphere was simply supposed to awaken Cole's powers prematurely and concentrate them at a fuller force or something? I really wish there was some explanation for that. :(

I believe than in Kessler's timeline, someone else had developed the raysphere(maybe the monster) and that's what gave Kessler his powers but he didn't develop his powers quickly enough to stop the monster so he stole the plans for the raysphere and went back in time to get the First Sons to develop the technology himself and thus Cole would have more time to develop his abilities before the great battle against the monster.
#11 Posted by LBJ44 (14 posts) -
WOW what a game. I had several of the same thoughts after finishing. Here are few more questions. Does anyone thnk Alden could make an appearance in the second one and will Cole have the powers that Kessler had at the end battle like teleporting? Doubtful but it'd be cool.
#12 Posted by jasopan (2360 posts) -
I hated how everyone around him died; made him out as a real "for the greater good" guy, so sad =( Pretty sure there'll be a sequel
#13 Posted by beekayjay (1732 posts) -
WOW what a game. I had several of the same thoughts after finishing. Here are few more questions. Does anyone thnk Alden could make an appearance in the second one and will Cole have the powers that Kessler had at the end battle like teleporting? Doubtful but it'd be cool.LBJ44
For sure Alden and Sasha will be back, as will Moya and of course Zeke. What Sucker Punch did was basically create Cole's own rogues gallery, a la Batman, by not definitively killing off the main baddies. As for Cole's powers, I think there may be some overlap with Kessler's powers but there mights be some differences only because Cole is now existing in a separate timeline from Kessler's, who essentially changed history by doing what he did. So Cole may very well develop differently. What an ending!! I think its the best story so far for this gen that I've experienced. My imagination is seriously reeling. Fantastic game!! Bring on the Beast!!!
#14 Posted by Eazy1891 (3072 posts) -

id like to see what they do with the sequel.....because they're going to need to make everyones decisions in the first one take place in the 2nd...that is if you play as cole of course...

#15 Posted by Ultrabeatdown55 (15314 posts) -
[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="bmart777"]

holy crap what a game. I always had this thought the Kessler was cole from the future due to the fact he kind of looks like him.

But i love how Sucker Punch led it into a sequel story

lets hear your thoughts :)

Yeah, I always thought they looked similar, but I never would have guessed it. Its fun playing through the second time, because knowing that one detail makes so much of what they say throughout the game make perfect sense. Like the way Sasha was always acting like Cole was her lover.... He was! Well his future self was anyway. Its real cool. There is just ONE tiny detail that bugs the crap out of me, and I was wondering what anyone else thought: Kessler came back in time to help make himself more powerful so he could defeat the monster, right? So Kessler actually had powers already BEFORE he came back (that's actually how he came back). But then the entire game is about is about how the Ray Sphere's blast gave Cole powers. Right? If Kessler made Cole set off the Ray Sphere and gain powers then how did he have the powers he already had before he came back in time? Or was it that the Ray Sphere was simply supposed to awaken Cole's powers prematurely and concentrate them at a fuller force or something? I really wish there was some explanation for that. :(

Man I just read that and got a headache... But I do understand what you are saying. I would like an explanation myself.
#16 Posted by zarshack (9936 posts) -

i think the power kessler gains from the raysphere were different to the ones cole himself gained, because if kessler could have absorbed electricity then you would not have been able to hurt him in the boss battle. I thought the ending was great though, there were lots of loose ends which will serve for the basis of a sequel for sure.

#17 Posted by M0wen10 (7555 posts) -

I thought it was a great and unexpected twist. Great game. :)

#18 Posted by groundgamer (2122 posts) -
I loved that twist in the game, a second inFamous on the horizon I think...
#19 Posted by BPoole96 (22811 posts) -

Know what else it cool? If you finish the game evil the sky is blood red and you have that wicked black lightning. Just looks awesome. I have an evil and a good end game both saved just for the heck of it. Also, who was sad about how Zeke turned out? He was awesome at first. :(Nephilim83

After I heard Zeke refer to money as "serious cashola" I lost all liking of him.

Does anyone know why that if Kessler is Cole, why they have different names? I don't quite get that.

#20 Posted by M0wen10 (7555 posts) -

[QUOTE="Nephilim83"]Know what else it cool? If you finish the game evil the sky is blood red and you have that wicked black lightning. Just looks awesome. I have an evil and a good end game both saved just for the heck of it. Also, who was sad about how Zeke turned out? He was awesome at first. :(BPoole96

After I heard Zeke refer to money as "serious cashola" I lost all liking of him.

Does anyone know why that if Kessler is Cole, why they have different names? I don't quite get that.

Me neither, but maybe he just gave himself a new and more evil looking name.

#21 Posted by SoOpinha (50 posts) -

I was alçredy happy with the plotline in the final boss, but i got an awsome awwee after it, best twist in a long time, i just think this story could more profund, more deep, but yet again im too used plotlines like mgs and ff

#22 Posted by McMJ3 (2441 posts) -
Know what else it cool? If you finish the game evil the sky is blood red and you have that wicked black lightning. Just looks awesome. I have an evil and a good end game both saved just for the heck of it. Also, who was sad about how Zeke turned out? He was awesome at first. :(Nephilim83
I hated Zeke from the beginning, he was just so freaking annoying:P
#23 Posted by Hunterstheking (19 posts) -
I liked the ending and didn't even think Kesler was Cole's future self so that was a surprising twist for me. I really hope they do a sequel to the game they certainly left it open for one.
#24 Posted by Nephilim83 (4378 posts) -
[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"][QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="bmart777"]

holy crap what a game. I always had this thought the Kessler was cole from the future due to the fact he kind of looks like him.

But i love how Sucker Punch led it into a sequel story

lets hear your thoughts :)

Yeah, I always thought they looked similar, but I never would have guessed it. Its fun playing through the second time, because knowing that one detail makes so much of what they say throughout the game make perfect sense. Like the way Sasha was always acting like Cole was her lover.... He was! Well his future self was anyway. Its real cool. There is just ONE tiny detail that bugs the crap out of me, and I was wondering what anyone else thought: Kessler came back in time to help make himself more powerful so he could defeat the monster, right? So Kessler actually had powers already BEFORE he came back (that's actually how he came back). But then the entire game is about is about how the Ray Sphere's blast gave Cole powers. Right? If Kessler made Cole set off the Ray Sphere and gain powers then how did he have the powers he already had before he came back in time? Or was it that the Ray Sphere was simply supposed to awaken Cole's powers prematurely and concentrate them at a fuller force or something? I really wish there was some explanation for that. :(

I believe than in Kessler's timeline, someone else had developed the raysphere(maybe the monster) and that's what gave Kessler his powers but he didn't develop his powers quickly enough to stop the monster so he stole the plans for the raysphere and went back in time to get the First Sons to develop the technology himself and thus Cole would have more time to develop his abilities before the great battle against the monster.

That's pretty much what I was thinking. I believe the First Son's prolly developed it, but just didn't develope it soon enough to give Kessler his powers in time. So, he stole the plans for it and went back in time to have it developed quicker. There was that one dead drop where John explained that the First Son's were noted as being responsible for a bunch of great inventions but with no actual record of proof of any... As if the actual inventions were removed from history? Replaced with Ray Sphere... Oh, well, that's a good enough explanation for me, so I'll just let it be. ;)
#25 Posted by Rhen_Var (12422 posts) -

You can use this as a reference to clarify on the ending and possible unanswered questions:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/infamous/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-49835503&pid=942025&tag=topics;title

Mostly clarifies on who the Beast possibly is. Please note that most of it is speculation but amazingly accurate, and also approved by other posters.

It's a long read so I'll clarify on most of the points:

  • Kesseler merely accelerated the development of the Ray Sphere.
  • Thus, the origin's of the Beast's powers and Kesselers power is the Ray Sphere, this is safe to pressume.
  • The chances of Cole being the beast is very slim, or let alone it being someone Kesseler knows otherwise he would have just went back in time to kill that person rather then train Cole.

If you read on, there is an assumption of John actually being the Beast for the reasons stated in the link.

#26 Posted by Nephilim83 (4378 posts) -
[QUOTE="M0wen10"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Know what else it cool? If you finish the game evil the sky is blood red and you have that wicked black lightning. Just looks awesome. I have an evil and a good end game both saved just for the heck of it. Also, who was sad about how Zeke turned out? He was awesome at first. :(Nephilim83

After I heard Zeke refer to money as "serious cashola" I lost all liking of him.

Does anyone know why that if Kessler is Cole, why they have different names? I don't quite get that.

Me neither, but maybe he just gave himself a new and more evil looking name.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he just changed his name so Cole McGrath wouldn't wonder why he's fighting Cole McGrath. :P
#27 Posted by Rhen_Var (12422 posts) -
[QUOTE="Nephilim83"][QUOTE="M0wen10"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

After I heard Zeke refer to money as "serious cashola" I lost all liking of him.

Does anyone know why that if Kessler is Cole, why they have different names? I don't quite get that.

Me neither, but maybe he just gave himself a new and more evil looking name.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he just changed his name so Cole McGrath wouldn't wonder why he's fighting Cole McGrath. :P

Indeed, otherwise the game would have ended before it even started! :o
#28 Posted by Nephilim83 (4378 posts) -
[QUOTE="Rhen_Var"]

You can use this as a reference to clarify on the ending and possible unanswered questions:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/infamous/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-49835503&pid=942025&tag=topics;title

Mostly clarifies on who the Beast possibly is. Please note that most of it is speculation but amazingly accurate, and also approved by other posters.

It's a long read so I'll clarify on most of the points:

  • Kesseler merely accelerated the development of the Ray Sphere.
  • Thus, the origin's of the Beast's powers and Kesselers power is the Ray Sphere, this is safe to pressume.
  • The chances of Cole being the beast is very slim, or let alone it being someone Kesseler knows otherwise he would have just went back in time to kill that person rather then train Cole.

If you read on, there is an assumption of John actually being the Beast for the reasons stated in the link.

Hey that sounds pretty good to me. I did think the beast looked like John, so maybe there is something to that. It makes a lot of sense.
#29 Posted by ReaperV7 (6756 posts) -
[QUOTE="Nephilim83"]Know what else it cool? If you finish the game evil the sky is blood red and you have that wicked black lightning. Just looks awesome. I have an evil and a good end game both saved just for the heck of it. Also, who was sad about how Zeke turned out? He was awesome at first. :(McMJ3
I hated Zeke from the beginning, he was just so freaking annoying:P

I killed him right when he opened his trap....It led to a game over :(
#30 Posted by Rhen_Var (12422 posts) -

[QUOTE="McMJ3"][QUOTE="Nephilim83"]Know what else it cool? If you finish the game evil the sky is blood red and you have that wicked black lightning. Just looks awesome. I have an evil and a good end game both saved just for the heck of it. Also, who was sad about how Zeke turned out? He was awesome at first. :(ReaperV7
I hated Zeke from the beginning, he was just so freaking annoying:P

I killed him right when he opened his trap....It led to a game over :(

I tried to do that on the street, but he got ran over by a taxi before I could finish him :|

#31 Posted by MJPK (3361 posts) -

InFamous is one of the best games this gen and the 2nd best game on the PS3 IMO.I'm really looking foward to InFamous 2 and I really think John is the Beast.

#32 Posted by MJPK (3361 posts) -

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"][QUOTE="McMJ3"] I hated Zeke from the beginning, he was just so freaking annoying:PRhen_Var

I killed him right when he opened his trap....It led to a game over :(

I tried to do that on the street, but he got ran over by a taxi before I could finish him :|

I failed a few missions by killing Zeke.I really didn't like him and I knew he would stab Cole in the back.

#33 Posted by bmart777 (220 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rhen_Var"]

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"] I killed him right when he opened his trap....It led to a game over :( MJPK

I tried to do that on the street, but he got ran over by a taxi before I could finish him :|

I failed a few missions by killing Zeke.I really didn't like him and I knew he would stab Cole in the back.

I thought the time period when zeke was off with kessler was pretty lame due to the fact that we have no explination of why zeke came back

#34 Posted by Tdog567 (50 posts) -

InFamous is one of the best games this gen and the 2nd best game on the PS3 IMO.I'm really looking foward to InFamous 2 and I really think John is the Beast.

MJPK
Just curious what's the first because I just got a ps3 and I'm trying to build a collection, thanks in advance.
#35 Posted by sebas117 (169 posts) -

I think John will return as the beast in the second game. This was by far one of the best games I've played but the second time it was meh.

#37 Posted by Animatronic64 (3971 posts) -
The ending was quite good, however, the side missions really need to be revamped in the sequel. Especially the photography missions, those were quite idiotic to say the least.
#38 Posted by dah_master (643 posts) -

I think John will return as the beast in the second game. This was by far one of the best games I've played but the second time it was meh.

sebas117

I agree...once done with the good and evil, there is not much left in the game...they should really put a police alert systemor something...That would have kept me occupied...:D

#39 Posted by agent_meg (146 posts) -

Well, just finished the game. Not as exciting for me because some a-hole revealed the suprise on another forum (I was trying to find out more about the karma meter, totally unrelated to ending) without labeling spoilers.

Still mad about that..

I have some things I'm confused about still...

**What was the deal with the TV brodcaster who hated Cole so much?? Could HE possibly be the beast?

**I don't think I ever understood what John had to do with anything. Why did he even want the raysphere? Who was he working for?

**If the Beast has theoretically been building his powers since the original raysphere blast, wouldn't the present Cole have heard about it during the whole timeline in which the game takes place? There is no way you wouldn't encounter this Beat at some point, especially if he is tearing the place apart.

Answers?

#40 Posted by Eagles931 (2136 posts) -
Wow just read that link, the explanation about John is really deep.I love it
#41 Posted by dcelw540 (462 posts) -

Man this Forum is old :P I cant wait for the answer in number 2 :D

#42 Posted by Legoguy747 (1 posts) -
It's something called a paradox. You see, Kesler went back in time to give Cole powers. Once Cole had powers and got more powerful he became Kesler. Then Kesler went back in time to give Cole powers. Once Cole had powers and got more powerful he became Kesler. And it keeps repeating forever and ever. It's very confusing but that's a paradox for you.