'How to improve the PlayStation Network' - Feedback please!

Hi there,

I created a 'document', discussing several improvements for the PlayStation Network. I think this will greatly improve the overall online gaming experience. I'm posting this on a few big forums for feedback and publicity, so that (with a little pressure from a lot of PlayStation customers) Sony will hopefully DO something with it, instead of putting their energy in a new 'Photo tool' instead of the highly requested features, such as cross-game voicechat.

When I feel this document is complete, I'll send it to Sony and the team that is responsible for the firmware-updates.

JPEG (image of the document / I can't post images, unfortunately):
http://www.caemgen.nl/PSN/PSN_improvements.jpg

PDF-format:
http://www.caemgen.nl/PSN/PSN_improvements.pdf

Thread on the official PlayStation forums:
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psnetwork&thread.id=419658

Thank you for your time and I'm looking forward to your feedback!

:roll: While its all good and dandy to give firmware "wish lists" this will accomplish nothing and is ultimately a waste of time... americahellyeah

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"]:roll: While its all good and dandy to give firmware "wish lists" this will accomplish nothing and is ultimately a waste of time... Caemgen

[QUOTE="Caemgen"][QUOTE="americahellyeah"]:roll: While its all good and dandy to give firmware "wish lists" this will accomplish nothing and is ultimately a waste of time... americahellyeah

The administrator of the UK official PlayStation forums responded to this and said he'd read it and make sure it will be delivered to someone high up at SCEE / SCEA.
So I say it does, in fact, make a difference.

You could have said 'make it like XBL but try not to charge us for it' and it would have come to the same effect. I really doubt Sony would take any time looking at something like that, but I guess it is better than doing nothing.maniac-2k7

What you say is true.

But if ONE, or even two big gaming websites would publish such a document (which needs to be rewritten anyway, because my English isn't that good as I'm Dutch) and write a story about how the Sony customers have been asking for these things for a long time and Sony doing nothing about it, it will create a certain pressure.

The PS3's online functionalities aren't even up to par with the FIRST Xbox... Come on!
I would be happy to pay for the service. I also pay for Xbox Live right now, but unfortunately all my friends are on PSN.

What you say is true.

But if ONE, or even two big gaming websites would publish such a document (which needs to be rewritten anyway, because my English isn't that good as I'm Dutch) and write a story about how the Sony customers have been asking for these things for a long time and Sony doing nothing about it, it will create a certain pressure.

The PS3's online functionalities aren't even up to par with the FIRST Xbox... Come on!
I would be happy to pay for the service. I also pay for Xbox Live right now, but unfortunately all my friends are on PSN.

Caemgen

[QUOTE="Caemgen"]

What you say is true.

But if ONE, or even two big gaming websites would publish such a document (which needs to be rewritten anyway, because my English isn't that good as I'm Dutch) and write a story about how the Sony customers have been asking for these things for a long time and Sony doing nothing about it, it will create a certain pressure.

The PS3's online functionalities aren't even up to par with the FIRST Xbox... Come on!
I would be happy to pay for the service. I also pay for Xbox Live right now, but unfortunately all my friends are on PSN.

americahellyeah

i agree. if sony makes it too where we have to pay for online, i wont b playing online n e more. we shouldnt have to pay to play.

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="Caemgen"]

What you say is true.

But if ONE, or even two big gaming websites would publish such a document (which needs to be rewritten anyway, because my English isn't that good as I'm Dutch) and write a story about how the Sony customers have been asking for these things for a long time and Sony doing nothing about it, it will create a certain pressure.

The PS3's online functionalities aren't even up to par with the FIRST Xbox... Come on!
I would be happy to pay for the service. I also pay for Xbox Live right now, but unfortunately all my friends are on PSN.

ShadowBass989

i agree. if sony makes it too where we have to pay for online, i wont b playing online n e more. we shouldnt have to pay to play.

[QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]You could have said 'make it like XBL but try not to charge us for it' and it would have come to the same effect. I really doubt Sony would take any time looking at something like that, but I guess it is better than doing nothing.americahellyeah

I wish PSN was more like XBL in terms of functionality! XBL lets you do way more and it's much more user friendly.

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]You could have said 'make it like XBL but try not to charge us for it' and it would have come to the same effect. I really doubt Sony would take any time looking at something like that, but I guess it is better than doing nothing.maniac-2k7

I wish PSN was more like XBL in terms of functionality! XBL lets you do way more and it's much more user friendly.

[QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"] Now why would you want to ruin PSN by making an XBL clone? thats just silly..americahellyeah

I wish PSN was more like XBL in terms of functionality! XBL lets you do way more and it's much more user friendly.

PSN right now feels like a half version of XBL, to me. Pracitcally everything in that PDF about what changes we want to PSN is already, and has been for a while, on XBL. I have both systems and as much as they're both great, from an online perspective (user interface/functionality wise), I definitely prefer XBL.

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]

I wish PSN was more like XBL in terms of functionality! XBL lets you do way more and it's much more user friendly.

Caemgen

PSN right now feels like a half version of XBL, to me. Pracitcally everything in that PDF about what changes we want to PSN is already, and has been for a while, on XBL. I have both systems and as much as they're both great, from an online perspective (user interface/functionality wise), I definitely prefer XBL.

maniac-2k7

Now why would you want to ruin PSN by making an XBL clone? thats just silly..americahellyeah

I wish PSN was more like XBL in terms of functionality! XBL lets you do way more and it's much more user friendly.

PSN right now feels like a half version of XBL, to me. Pracitcally everything in that PDF about what changes we want to PSN is already, and has been for a while, on XBL. I have both systems and as much as they're both great, from an online perspective (user interface/functionality wise), I definitely prefer XBL.

maniac-2k7

[QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]

PSN right now feels like a half version of XBL, to me. Pracitcally everything in that PDF about what changes we want to PSN is already, and has been for a while, on XBL. I have both systems and as much as they're both great, from an online perspective (user interface/functionality wise), I definitely prefer XBL.

americahellyeah

Well, I did say I was talking about functionality and interface, not actual online play. But really, they're both pretty much the exact same for actual online play, I've had plenty of 10 year olds screaming and cussing for no reason on PSN. As long as you stay away from H3 on XBL, you're pretty much safe.

[QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]

PSN right now feels like a half version of XBL, to me. Pracitcally everything in that PDF about what changes we want to PSN is already, and has been for a while, on XBL. I have both systems and as much as they're both great, from an online perspective (user interface/functionality wise), I definitely prefer XBL.

daveydag

It was only a comparison, not a 360/ps3 war...

[QUOTE="daveydag"][QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]

PSN right now feels like a half version of XBL, to me. Pracitcally everything in that PDF about what changes we want to PSN is already, and has been for a while, on XBL. I have both systems and as much as they're both great, from an online perspective (user interface/functionality wise), I definitely prefer XBL.

maniac-2k7

It was only a comparison, not a 360/ps3 war...

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]

PSN right now feels like a half version of XBL, to me. Pracitcally everything in that PDF about what changes we want to PSN is already, and has been for a while, on XBL. I have both systems and as much as they're both great, from an online perspective (user interface/functionality wise), I definitely prefer XBL.

maniac-2k7

Well, I did say I was talking about functionality and interface, not actual online play. But really, they're both pretty much the exact same for actual online play, I've had plenty of 10 year olds screaming and cussing for no reason on PSN. As long as you stay away from H3 on XBL, you're pretty much safe.

Well part of the reason they couldn't also have the data stored on the console is because it would inevitably lead to the hacking of PSN... PS3 can't generate a card simply because they haven't made a program for it to do that... Personally i don't think i'll ever switch from a custom card that I update manually because it just allows for so much more customization... I doubt sony would even offer different backgrounds.. i mean lets face it.. if they can't even give more than 250 avatars for 14 million PSN users i doubt they'd be able to do updating PS3 "gamer cards" americahellyeah

[QUOTE="BenderUnit22"][QUOTE="americahellyeah"] The reason you can't access profile and account info when offline is because its all online.. its not on the PS3 itself, all that info is server side with Sony.. thats why when you log on to your account from another PS3 all you friends and info is still there... And as for the second thing... thats actually one of the things Sony is working on.. i can't find the link but they said in an interview that they're working to complete website - Ps3 information syncing...americahellyeah

[QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"] I prefer less 10 year olds screaming in my ear because i killed them... americahellyeah

Well, I did say I was talking about functionality and interface, not actual online play. But really, they're both pretty much the exact same for actual online play, I've had plenty of 10 year olds screaming and cussing for no reason on PSN. As long as you stay away from H3 on XBL, you're pretty much safe.

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="maniac-2k7"]

Well, I did say I was talking about functionality and interface, not actual online play. But really, they're both pretty much the exact same for actual online play, I've had plenty of 10 year olds screaming and cussing for no reason on PSN. As long as you stay away from H3 on XBL, you're pretty much safe.

Caemgen

[QUOTE="Caemgen"][QUOTE="americahellyeah"] Yeah well 9 times out of 10 on XBL I'll get into a match (regardless of game) full of children who think they're "cool" because they play video games with a headset :roll: on PSN its only maybe 3 times out of 10... americahellyeah

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="BenderUnit22"]I know it's all server-side (which is why loading your trophy card takes forever), but there's not really a reason for not also having that offline. After all, you can check your trophies in the trophy list, so it does know which ones you unlocked, and even at what time, so why can't the PS3 generate a card with that data? Of course it's not guaranteed to be properly updated, for example if you play online on a different PS3, but it would update whenever you log in. I remember that too, but it was ages ago. I actually think Phil Harrison hinted at the website during E3 07, where he said something about a PlayStation website, Home integration and other stuff.ShadowBass989

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="Caemgen"] That's because there are less PS3 owners with a headset. Also, you will always run into people like that, on any console. It sucks, yeah, but that's how it works. You just have to find yourself a nice group of serious, fun people to play with.ShadowBass989

ShadowBass989

[QUOTE="ShadowBass989"][QUOTE="americahellyeah"] Having less people with a headset isn't always a bad thing.. plus all the games where it matters they usually have em... Socom and COD rooms are always usually 90% full with headsets... americahellyeah

yeah they need some new avatars, bad. thats one of the things i really want more than n e thing. hell i dunno what half the avatars r. i still think the clay ones at the end look like different colored dog turds.ShadowBass989

psn fundamentaly is pretty good, especialy for a free service. all i ask is for more games across all titles, ps1+2 demos etc, and for in game voicechat improvements and the willingness by sony to keep improving little by little where it can and i will be happy. paying for psn is a big no-no for mes1wel

[QUOTE="ShadowBass989"]yeah they need some new avatars, bad. thats one of the things i really want more than n e thing. hell i dunno what half the avatars r. i still think the clay ones at the end look like different colored dog turds.americahellyeah

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="ShadowBass989"]yeah they need some new avatars, bad. thats one of the things i really want more than n e thing. hell i dunno what half the avatars r. i still think the clay ones at the end look like different colored dog turds.ShadowBass989

[QUOTE="ShadowBass989"][QUOTE="americahellyeah"] lol.. you too? i was like WTF why does that green dog turd have a face!? the first time i saw it... americahellyeah