Hasn't Blu-Ray already won?

It's just like how the DS has not won the handhelds and the Xbox has not won the consoles.  The format war ends winter of 07 or early 08.  Big chain stores like Walmart aren't gonna hold DVDs, HDDVD, and BD because that would take too much room and cost.mikeslemonade

The war did not even begin. No one is buying HD DVDs or Bluray.

[QUOTE="mikeslemonade"]It's just like how the DS has not won the handhelds and the Xbox has not won the consoles.  The format war ends winter of 07 or early 08.  Big chain stores like Walmart aren't gonna hold DVDs, HDDVD, and BD because that would take too much room and cost.Demarco25

The war did not even begin. No one is buying HD DVDs or Bluray.

[QUOTE="Demarco25"]

[QUOTE="mikeslemonade"]It's just like how the DS has not won the handhelds and the Xbox has not won the consoles.  The format war ends winter of 07 or early 08.  Big chain stores like Walmart aren't gonna hold DVDs, HDDVD, and BD because that would take too much room and cost.expanded

The war did not even begin. No one is buying HD DVDs or Bluray.

How does holding more make something better? The betamax could hold more but what happened to it? The problem with blu ray is that the players cost 1000 and not that many people will go out and buy a playstation 3 to be their  blu ray player.

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[QUOTE="mikeslemonade"]It's just like how the DS has not won the handhelds and the Xbox has not won the consoles. The format war ends winter of 07 or early 08. Big chain stores like Walmart aren't gonna hold DVDs, HDDVD, and BD because that would take too much room and cost.Demarco25

The war did not even begin. No one is buying HD DVDs or Bluray.

How does holding more make something better? The betamax could hold more but what happened to it?

About 70% of the big movie companys are supporting Blu-Ray exclusivly, and 20% of them are supporting HD-DVD exclusivly, while 10% are going with both.
So, say this "war" lasts 5 years, people who want to buy a movie on high definition, are going to have to choose between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, but as I stated earlier, 70% of the studios are supporting Blu-Ray exclusivly, that means most of the high def movies that come out for sale are going to be on Blu-Ray, so if people want to buy a movie in high def, for the most part they will have to go with Blu-Ray, does anyone understand what I mean? Not the best grammar I know.
whitey6

Does it really matter? Even if bluray or hd-dvd win, we will still see both formats in stores for years to come because both bluray and hd-dvd has sold enough to establish a market. Just because one will win, doesn't mean the other one will instantly disapeer. Look how long it took VHS to disapeer when DVD's came out...

Lastly, both bluray and hd-dvd have pro's and con's...and that is why Toshiba is releasing next month a player capable to read both bluray and hd-dvd.

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[QUOTE="mikeslemonade"]It's just like how the DS has not won the handhelds and the Xbox has not won the consoles. The format war ends winter of 07 or early 08. Big chain stores like Walmart aren't gonna hold DVDs, HDDVD, and BD because that would take too much room and cost.Demarco25

The war did not even begin. No one is buying HD DVDs or Bluray.

How does holding more make something better? The betamax could hold more but what happened to it? The problem with blu ray is that the players cost 1000 and not that many people will go out and buy a playstation 3 to be their blu ray player.

[QUOTE="mikeslemonade"]It's just like how the DS has not won the handhelds and the Xbox has not won the consoles.  The format war ends winter of 07 or early 08.  Big chain stores like Walmart aren't gonna hold DVDs, HDDVD, and BD because that would take too much room and cost.Demarco25

The war did not even begin. No one is buying HD DVDs or Bluray.

How does holding more make something better? The betamax could hold more but what happened to it? The problem with blu ray is that the players cost 1000 and not that many people will go out and buy a playstation 3 to be their blu ray player.

Demarco25

Listen Blu-ray lsot Hd-dvd lost 
Now before you get mad next week warner brotehrs is realesing a disc called HD discs that plays both formats and can be played on regular dvd players when this happens its overs for the formats 

Does it really matter? Even if bluray or hd-dvd win, we will still see both formats in stores for years to come because both bluray and hd-dvd has sold enough to establish a market. Just because one will win, doesn't mean the other one will instantly disapeer. Look how long it took VHS to disapeer when DVD's came out...

Lastly, both bluray and hd-dvd have pro's and con's...and that is why Toshiba is releasing next month a player capable to read both bluray and hd-dvd.lotr_2003

Listen Blu-ray lsot Hd-dvd lost 
Now before you get mad next week warner brotehrs is realesing a disc called HD discs that plays both formatsand can be played on regular dvd players when this happens its overs for the formats 

Lucifer007

Yup, Yup - I've heard about both of these also. Just have to wait though and see how they turn out...

It sucks that the majority of people have to just sit out and wait before buying a next gen DVD player, simply because idiots at Sony & Toshiba couldn't agree on something together.

1 Major factor why VHS won over Betamax, which is why BluRay will beat HD-DVD : The xXx Industry... T-Zone

it doesnt matter. blu ray movies will exist for entire existence of the ps3, by the time ps4 come out there might even be a newer format.. it will never end.davez82

They will eventually only stock DVD since they will be the ones selling.  pgdickerson

[QUOTE="pgdickerson"]They will eventually only stock DVD since they will be the ones selling.  nietzscheyay

Less than 5% of the U.S. population have a 1080p television. Maybe in 10 years, 25%. Right now DVD is in the homes of something like 80% of households. People will not buy a $500 DVD player. Both formats will fade into obscurity. Someone on this forum said it earlier, Wal-Mart will not stock all three formats of the same movie. They will eventually only stock DVD since they will be the ones selling. pgdickerson

I'm not tempted to buy a HD player yet because of the chance it'll go obsolete in a few years and my DVD's look great on it. pgdickerson

pgdickerson

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[QUOTE="mikeslemonade"]It's just like how the DS has not won the handhelds and the Xbox has not won the consoles.  The format war ends winter of 07 or early 08.  Big chain stores like Walmart aren't gonna hold DVDs, HDDVD, and BD because that would take too much room and cost.Demarco25

The war did not even begin. No one is buying HD DVDs or Bluray.

How does holding more make something better? The betamax could hold more but what happened to it? The problem with blu ray is that the players cost 1000 and not that many people will go out and buy a playstation 3 to be their  blu ray player.

Fair enough. Working in the electronics biz, new technologies are typically driven by the oddest factors. Ever since Sony and Mitsubishi launched their "Full HD" or "True HD" advertizing campaigns, the demand for 1080p has gone through the roof. Of all of the HDTVs that our company sells (a small-ish, privately owned, commissioned based business), I would say 75% of them are 40" or larger 1080p, while most of the are 32" LCDs. Only a small percentage of shoppers ("value" shoppers, or cheap-asses) don't go 1080p. Anyway, the 1080p hype is in full-force. Most consumers believe that it's only "real" HD if it's 1080p, and most of us in the industry are going to run with it. Also, though people on forums can speculate all they want, the hard sales numbers for our company indicate that BD players and media are another rage. Everyone wants one, but few people are biting at the price. Although, I'm certain places like the big blue tag and the electrical plug have different figures.

I know the kind of place you work at.  I tend to drool a lot every time I visit one.  Honestly, if my TV kicked the bucket I'd buy a 1080p in a heartbeat.  But even being an engineer, married to an engineer, who one day dreams of retiring and sending his kids to college; even I can't afford to buy a new TV and player every 5 years. I refuse to have to upgrade my TV just to keep up.  It's like having to buy a new car every time they fill the potholes.

Forrester: Blu-ray winning drawn-out format war

updateSony's Blu-ray format for next-generation DVD drives will win over Toshiba's rival HD DVD format, analyst firm Forrester predicted Wednesday--but it won't be a quick victory.

"After a long and tedious run-up to the launch, it is now clear to Forrester that the Sony-led Blu-ray format will win," Ted Schadler, a Forrester analyst, said in a report. "But unless the HD DVD group abandons the field, it will be another two years before consumers are confident enough of the winner to think about buying a new-format DVD player."

Call it one step ahead or a little bit of damage control, I don't care. But Xbox Circle reports that Peter Moore said he could see a Blu-ray external player for the Xbox 360 if Blu-ray ends up winning the "format wars." These are format wars that I don't even think should be happening, but Microsoft is already building a bunker in case things go bad. Smart on the company's part, by readying an HD-DVD drive and being prepared to ready a Blu-ray player, Microsoft is either thinking ahead or preparing to try to cut Sony off at every possible corner. This could get dirty, like catfight, squealing, mudwrestling dirty. I'm into it.

Even though the hd-dvd is ahead, look how close blu-ray has gotten, it's been doing nothing but rising....

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