GTA IV is 1080p! =]

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#51 Posted by LucasNadolny (94 posts) -
i see six axis on there... i wonder what unique things rockstar is gonna use for that
#52 Posted by KoolEmpty (1081 posts) -
[QUOTE="Rifle76"]

Anyone know if GTA 4 is going to support rumble because I want to get full use of my Dualshock 3

-Intellectual-

Why dont you use the sixaxis ? you can tilt. Rumble is last-gen.

It's NOT native 1080p.

ummm the DS3 still provides sixaxis support.

#53 Posted by KoolEmpty (1081 posts) -
[QUOTE="1357"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LocalGod_TM"]

yep ...the game is native 720P but supports upscaling to 1080P ...

sorry folks..:P no dice on the 1080

also IMO 720p looks alot nicer then 1080i...at least on my tv, 32" widescreen LCD...the 1080 resolutions only look good on tv over like 42"... i prefer progressive scan to no progressive scan for sure

Chutebox

720p>1080i. You're correct.

720p is nicer then 1080i my friend.. this is how it goes. 1080i, 720p, 1080p

people who use 1080i are in denial... 720p is better nuff said

I'm confused, I'm probably reading into this wrong, but it sounds like you were arguing with me?

I mean 720p is better than 1080i. The order you stated is correct.

1080i should be producing a better picture as long as there is no alot of movement or action taking place on the screen. I certainly wouldn't consider 720p to be better than 1080i in every respect.

#54 Posted by Rifle76 (721 posts) -
[QUOTE="Rifle76"]

Anyone know if GTA 4 is going to support rumble because I want to get full use of my Dualshock 3

-Intellectual-

Why dont you use the sixaxis ? you can tilt. Rumble is last-gen.

It's NOT native 1080p.

Hopefully you are being sarcastic about rumble being last gen. The Dualshock 3 has sixaxis capabilities and seeing I just bought a Dualshock 3 I want to get full use of it.
#55 Posted by staticks (664 posts) -

FYI, guys, this means it only supports 1080p UPSCALED, not native. The game runs at 1280x720p, but upscales to output 1080p for those of us with those expensive, high-end 1080p HDTVs.

Unlike the XB360, the PS3 doesn't upscale all games to 1080p automatically; the game developer (Rockstar, in this case) has to upscale the game themselves. It's a little bit of an inconvenience and performance drop for Rockstar, but it's a cool and nice gesture that they did it!

#56 Posted by MusashiSensi (9583 posts) -
Cool.
#57 Posted by dwade_vokmy (196 posts) -
YAY
#58 Posted by Blaiyze1 (975 posts) -

Woah come on ppl start lookin harder!! didnt u c that it only said 1 player!!!! wasnt there rumors of only split screen on ps3 and now theres no split screen.

#59 Posted by MusashiSensi (9583 posts) -

Woah come on ppl start lookin harder!! didnt u c that it only said 1 player!!!! wasnt there rumors of only split screen on ps3 and now theres no split screen.

Blaiyze1

Keyword "Rumors".

#60 Posted by Rigour_Mortise (873 posts) -
Its alright for some with your fancy **** HD tele's
#61 Posted by moshakirby (1502 posts) -
[QUOTE="Blaiyze1"]

Woah come on ppl start lookin harder!! didnt u c that it only said 1 player!!!! wasnt there rumors of only split screen on ps3 and now theres no split screen.

MusashiSensi

Keyword "Rumors".



Looks like it says "Network 3-18" on the back, is that accurate? 3 players minimum seems a bit weird.
#62 Posted by Beba_FH (118 posts) -

GTA graphics aren't that bad::?!:!

#63 Posted by Beba_FH (118 posts) -

GTA graphics aren't that bad!! ;)

#64 Posted by GTA_MGS_1 (510 posts) -

No, doubt it, some games say that when really there upscaled

#65 Posted by abhamra619 (17 posts) -
Ive seen this before, im glad we've full HD graphics. The save file is very small, so no installion sounds good so far...
#66 Posted by son_of_akiller (417 posts) -

so this mean it will not support rumble

and dude without no installation the load times would be horrible

#67 Posted by Fitipali (424 posts) -
Gah! i wanted some Splitscreen
#68 Posted by son_of_akiller (417 posts) -
well the time where friends come over and play is over they all must buy their own and get a internet connection
#69 Posted by jdt532 (4193 posts) -
Well then, I'm glad I have this sweet Sony Bravia 1080p TV. :P
#70 Posted by gowthamspa (1847 posts) -
cool, finally a game in 1080p.
#71 Posted by jth182 (133 posts) -
[QUOTE="jth182"][QUOTE="Duckman5"]

[QUOTE="jth182"]Sweet baby Jesus! This is all I've been asking for, and it looks to be real!! I have a 1080i only TV, and this game would have sucked balls in 720p only. THANK YOU R* I don't have to cancel my pre-order!Duckman5

How does this solve your problem exactly? :?

The game will be displayed at 1080i instead of 480p... problem solved. (same way that Uncharted works)

It would have displayed at 1080i anyway. Most all 1080i games are also 720p, you never had any problem lol.

I don't think you get it. My TV doesn't do 720p, only 1080i. I'm forced to play games like Resistance, Tiger Woods, Madden, etc. in 480p, which, if you don't know, looks like ass on a 57" HDTV.

If R* didn't add upscaling to this game like Naughty Dog did with Uncharted, I would be forced to play it in 480p.

#72 Posted by ice_radon (70349 posts) -
Is it native 1080p? To me though its not really a big deal, I am running at 1080i so I really don't have any use of it, but it would be nice for the future if it comes native.
#73 Posted by Galen20K (556 posts) -

So Question since my TV is 1080p does that mean it can handle 1080i and 720p if I Ever Choose to run games in those resolutions??? I"ve never tried>>>>>

I'd love to compare GTA IV on my tv at various Resolutions!!!

- D

#74 Posted by sniper_99 (2820 posts) -

Anyone know if GTA 4 is going to support rumble because I want to get full use of my Dualshock 3

Rifle76

I'd like to know too since I bought one today

#75 Posted by 2headedhawaiian (1531 posts) -
I'm not saying it isn't real, but the write-up on the back has a couple pretty bad run-on sentences that I would think unfit for display stands.
#76 Posted by RotaryRX7 (7182 posts) -
[QUOTE="Rifle76"]

Anyone know if GTA 4 is going to support rumble because I want to get full use of my Dualshock 3

sniper_99

I'd like to know too since I bought one today

Considering:

1. Most games that have been released after the release of the DS3 in Japan have featured rumble

and 2. Now the DS3 is officially out in the U.S. and the game is arriving after that, I think it's safe to say it will have rumble.

#77 Posted by nohnaimer (513 posts) -
[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

I doubt it's a native 1080p game, most likely upscaled. If it is native though, that would be sweet.

And come on, GTA graphics don't "suck balls" but yeah they're no Gran Turismo or MGS..lol

JoKeR_421

PS3 can upscale, eg COD4( 600-640P), GT5 Prologue(1280*1080) etc.

PS3 can hardware upscale in horizontal (GT5), but needs software upscaling for the vertical (COD4).

last time i checked ps3 dont upscale? so should be native

#78 Posted by lil50cent (2741 posts) -
[QUOTE="Rifle76"]

Anyone know if GTA 4 is going to support rumble because I want to get full use of my Dualshock 3

-Intellectual-

Why dont you use the sixaxis ? you can tilt. Rumble is last-gen.

It's NOT native 1080p.

wrong, wrong and wrong

#79 Posted by Gackt55 (137 posts) -
Nice! ^-^
#80 Posted by Please_ThankYou (333 posts) -

So Question since my TV is 1080p does that mean it can handle 1080i and 720p if I Ever Choose to run games in those resolutions??? I"ve never tried>>>>>

I'd love to compare GTA IV on my tv at various Resolutions!!!

- D

Galen20K

It depends. Most, but not all, TVs that display 1080p will also display all lower resolutions. I leave all the output resolutions enabled and the PS3 chooses the most appropriate setting when the game boots. In most cases, I think the game's native output is preferable.

In other words, I run most games in 720p on my 1080p panel.

#81 Posted by shroom76 (1765 posts) -

isn't native, its a multiplatform game.

the 360 can't really run in 1080p, we learned that after halo 3. so its probably upscaled to 1080p for those who have humongous tv's.

720p is prolly what it runs in unless you force 1080p... according to the box cod4 runs in 1080p. ya ok -_-

#82 Posted by Please_ThankYou (333 posts) -

I've yet to see a game on either console that really runs in 1080p.

Sports games do, but they're not as graphically-intensive. Full Auto 2 runs in 1080p, but it might have the least detailed graphics of any game in this console generation. I'm not reassured by the fact that Killzone 2 is rumored to be a 720p game, either.

GT5 will probably be the first game of this generation to have full-fledged, respectable 1080p graphics.

#83 Posted by nohnaimer (513 posts) -

isn't native, its a multiplatform game.

the 360 can't really run in 1080p, we learned that after halo 3. so its probably upscaled to 1080p for those who have humongous tv's.

720p is prolly what it runs in unless you force 1080p... according to the box cod4 runs in 1080p. ya ok -_-

shroom76

Well PS3 can't really run graphically intensive games at 1080P either, RSX is not exactly a powerhouse GPU. None of the PS3 exclusives ( well other than those simple looking PSN games like Super Stardust HD, Pixel junk etc) are 1920*1080 either. Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet, Folklore etc are all 720P, GT5 Proglogue is 1280*1080

#84 Posted by nohnaimer (513 posts) -

I've yet to see a game on either console that really runs in 1080p.

Sports games do, but they're not as graphically-intensive. Full Auto 2 runs in 1080p, but it might have the least detailed graphics of any game in this console generation. I'm not reassured by the fact that Killzone 2 is rumored to be a 720p game, either.

GT5 will probably be the first game of this generation to have full-fledged, respectable 1080p graphics.

Please_ThankYou

Actually GT5 Prologue is suppose to be 1280*1080 native. PS3 can do hardware upscaling for the horizontal axis.

#85 Posted by 2headedhawaiian (1531 posts) -
[QUOTE="Please_ThankYou"]

I've yet to see a game on either console that really runs in 1080p.

Sports games do, but they're not as graphically-intensive. Full Auto 2 runs in 1080p, but it might have the least detailed graphics of any game in this console generation. I'm not reassured by the fact that Killzone 2 is rumored to be a 720p game, either.

GT5 will probably be the first game of this generation to have full-fledged, respectable 1080p graphics.

nohnaimer

Actually GT5 Prologue is suppose to be 1280*1080 native. PS3 can do hardware upscaling for the horizontal axis.

Some PSN titles run in 1080p native, and as for Blu-Ray releases, the only ones I know of are one of the NBA games that came out last year and Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

#86 Posted by Please_ThankYou (333 posts) -

Actually GT5 Prologue is suppose to be 1280*1080 native. PS3 can do hardware upscaling for the horizontal axis.

nohnaimer

The claims about GT5P's 1280 resolution are based on the demo that came out months ago. There's been no official word on Prologue's final output resolution.

However, I was talking about the full version of GT, whose release date is still uncertain. I'm hoping they manage full 1080p in the final spec.

#87 Posted by staticks (664 posts) -

GTA IV is UPSCALED 1080p. Not true/native 1080p (check the latest Gamespot multiplayer preview if you don't believe me).

GT5:P is most likely 1280x1080p, NOT full 1920x1080p. Polyphony, the developers, have said that targeting this resolution offers the best balance between sharpness and performance. If they were to target full 1920x1080p resolution, then they would have had to seriously cut back the graphics, effects, and detail, and it wouldn't be able to run at 60 fps. Full 1080p is TOO performance intensive to achieve those kinds of graphics and that 60 fps framerate.

#88 Posted by supergsxr1 (29 posts) -
[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="1357"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LocalGod_TM"]

yep ...the game is native 720P but supports upscaling to 1080P ...

sorry folks..:P no dice on the 1080

also IMO 720p looks alot nicer then 1080i...at least on my tv, 32" widescreen LCD...the 1080 resolutions only look good on tv over like 42"... i prefer progressive scan to no progressive scan for sure

1357

720p>1080i. You're correct.

720p is nicer then 1080i my friend.. this is how it goes. 1080i, 720p, 1080p

people who use 1080i are in denial... 720p is better nuff said

I'm confused, I'm probably reading into this wrong, but it sounds like you were arguing with me?

I mean 720p is better than 1080i. The order you stated is correct.

okay.. i was arguing with u lol... i was confused of ur order hahah... it looked like u were saying 1080i is better sorry man

LOL! You are both wrong!

720p=921,600 pixels on the screen

1080i=2,073,600 pixels

1080i is more than twice the resolution of 720p. These are facts that are scientifically undisputed. 720p may be smoother for fast moving images or camera jerking, but 1080i still has a superior image. Even if you try to give the old argument (which has been debunked) that only 30 fields are displayed at a time, 1080i still has 1,036,800 pixels in each field. Still more than the 921,600 pixels of 720p by over 100,000 pixels. So take it from a scientist, it is scientifically impossible for 720p have a better image than 1080p from a source which is natively at least 1080i (most ATSC HD broadcast television). If you still can't see the difference, contact your local optometrist ASAP!

By the way, I PC game at 1600p which is twice the resolution of 1080p. Four megapixels baby, yeah!

The PS3 has no built in scaler so it is impossible for the PS3 to scale up to 1080i or 1080p. There is a software update for SDK's that allows a publisher to implement scaling to 1024x1080. This may be what the cases are doing but 1080p would be a lie! Everyone knows that 1080p or full HD is synonymous with 1920x1080 resolution. I don't know why devs would use this because the last dev I spoke to said that you have to devote 2 SPE's to the software scaling algorithm and a ton of code which slows everything down. Maybe GTA IV isn't too demanding for the PS3.

#89 Posted by Maximus808 (21 posts) -

Just bought GTA4 and unfortunately....it sucks.

Clumsy controls, unresponsive controls, etc etc etc

Wow what hype for this garbage. My wife even bought me the strategy guide. I'm sticking to PC games. I'm tired of wasting money.

#90 Posted by GazzaB (27139 posts) -
Thats not native 1080p, its upscaled. I actually heard that the PS3 version wasnt even native 720p, but that couldve just been a rumour.
#91 Posted by janti_hakouz (3190 posts) -

GTA IV runs at 630P according to Kotaku!

Early test reports are finding that Grand Theft Auto IV is only running at 630P on the PlayStation 3—falling short of hi def—while the game runs at 720P on the Xbox 360. Clearly, the PlayStation version must look worse, right? It's not that simple. But the basic explanation is easy enough to understand.Kotaku
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