Dark souls 2: how to get white soap stone?

Nobody on google has an answer and I need it badly! Please help

you get it from pate in the forest of fallen giants. you need to exhaust his dialogue.

@ryrulez: OH MY GOD... Please tell me he's NOT the guy that was sitting on a tree were three guards and an archer spawn and he's wearing armor? X___x I think I made a really big boo boo.

Nah, that's just a special enemy. Pate's farther in.