DANGEROUS BREAKING NEWS: Bethesda Skyrim 1.4 Patch WON'T FIX LAG !!!

PS3 Users, you have been betrayed forever by Bethesda, I contacted Skyrim support regarding the totally broken state of Skyrim Ps3, and i got a reply stating that they are aware of the issue but it may be a WHILE till its fixed, also continues to say that next patch will fix some quests and other stuff BUT no news on the LAG Fix !

So get ready to wait 6 months or maybe there is no fix for it EVER. I"m heart broken beyond repair, game is ruined for me. I shelved it after going half-way through 2 weeks ago, now i forgot the storyline.

and NO, disabling autosave, emptying HDD space, reseting ps3 every 2 seconds IS NOT A SOLUTION!!

I stopped caring about Bethesda about a month ago. I realized the only games I ever bought from them were Elder Scrolls games and upon playing Skyrim, as great as the game is, it's really not that great and definately not GOTY material. So I told myself "Why should I keep buying their games if they won't even work properly simply because I own a PS3 and not a 360?" It suck because I was really pumped for Skyrim and this is pretty dissapointing. I can live without the ES series.

PS: Bethesda, if the patch isn't going to fix anything, why bother releasing it at all?

I pretty much gave up on Bethesda games after ESIII on the OG xbox. What I love is how fans of it will dismiss all of the problems as if they don't matter. A broken game is a broken game, no matter what it "gets right". Patch after patch after patch to fill up my HDD? No thanks. Either get it right, or don't release it - But patching roads like the state of Illinois (they do a terrible job of upkeep on their roads, almost on purpose to keep contracts alive and union workers endlessly employed instead of fixing anything correctly) is for the birds. GOTY, my ***. And if the folks in the industry DO award it thusly, then we'll all know who received free copies, won't we?

:lol:

My deepest sympathies to everyone who paid full price for the PS3 version. I don't like to see my fellow gamers getting frustrated or ripped off.

Peace on Earth, Good Will Towards Men, Go **** Yourself Bethesda. Ahmen.

I disable autosave, cleaned up my HDD and restart my ps3 ever 4-5 hours and it clears up.. I'm fine with it.. in fact after doing all that the load times are way shorter even! most houses and shops only take a couple seconds to load now.. Yes it would be nice if they could fix it, but hey, when Bethesda gives you lemons, make an elixir of lemonade... PoisoN_Facecam0

I've done the same thing, it's not playing perfectly "BUT" at least it's enjoyable. This is my first Elder Scroll game and it might also be my last if they release another product with bugs like this one.

Peace on Earth, Good Will Towards Men, Go **** Yourself Bethesda. Ahmen.

MonkeySpot

:shock:....Monkey!:P

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]I disable autosave, cleaned up my HDD and restart my ps3 ever 4-5 hours and it clears up.. I'm fine with it.. in fact after doing all that the load times are way shorter even! most houses and shops only take a couple seconds to load now.. Yes it would be nice if they could fix it, but hey, when Bethesda gives you lemons, make an elixir of lemonade... MarcRecon

I've done the same thing, it's not playing perfectly "BUT" at least it's enjoyable. This is my first Elder Scroll game and it might also be my last if they release another product with bugs like this one.

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="PoisoN_Facecam0"]I disable autosave, cleaned up my HDD and restart my ps3 ever 4-5 hours and it clears up.. I'm fine with it.. in fact after doing all that the load times are way shorter even! most houses and shops only take a couple seconds to load now.. Yes it would be nice if they could fix it, but hey, when Bethesda gives you lemons, make an elixir of lemonade... PoisoN_Facecam0

I've done the same thing, it's not playing perfectly "BUT" at least it's enjoyable. This is my first Elder Scroll game and it might also be my last if they release another product with bugs like this one.

Oh, ok since I never really had an interest in the series(or any RPG)I wasn't aware that this is somewhat a common issue. Either way, I'm enjoying my first adventure(I can't count Dark souls...I traded it in) in RPG land. To tell you the truth I got Skyrim on the suggestion of a friend who knows I'm a HUUUUUUGE fan of the Lord of the Ring series....if it wasn't for his suggestion, we wouldn't be having this conversation.:P

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

Peace on Earth, Good Will Towards Men, Go **** Yourself Bethesda. Ahmen.

MarcRecon

:shock:....Monkey!:P

Seemed seasonally appropriate...

:D

My problem with Bethesda is best envisioned thusly:

If you could make changes to an exam or homework assignment well after turning it into the teacher, how hard would YOU work to get anything correct, or to learn the information in the first place? Patching has become the norm instead of the exception when it comes to games on this generation, which is so much crap and honestly, disrespect of the audience it aims to entertain.

Doesn't work at scheduled time of release? No problem. Just fix it "later", or in the case of "Skyrim" for the PS3, perhaps not at all ever... And that's BS. I have all the sympathy in the world for the grunts working it out in the trenches of a development studio, because ultimately, it rests on their shoulders (read the story of Team Bondi and "LA Noire") to then fix or take blame for a game's functionality upon release, all because some idiot exec makes the deadline and watches the profit margins as law. I like studios like Blizzard, who say "The Game Will Release When It's FINISHED". So what if they take ten years between releases? At least you know when you buy a Blizzard game, that it's gonna WORK.

If I ran my company like Bethesda, turning out (basically) broken product, I would have been out of clientele 25 years ago, destitute, and living on the street. I feel the same way about airlines, by the way, and often say as much when confronted by a rude or ignorant employee/ steward. Consumers in general are way too forgiving when it comes to product reliability or service representation, in my opinion, nowadays. Gamers, doubly-so. Some gamers will line up for a golden shower from certain devs... And that's not doing the dev or the hobby any service.

I say all of this as an old-school original D&D player (back in the early 1980s) RPG fan who would LOVE a game like "Skyrim" (or "Morrowind" back on my OG xbox) to follow through on the promise of it's creation. I WANT a game like this (or "Fallout 3") to work, but the fact is, it simply doesn't.

And that's a shame.

:(

I could look past things like Wooley Mammoths falling from the sky if there weren't the game-breaking other glitches going on...

Have any proof of this claim TC? You'll have to forgive me for not believing everything I hear on the internet w/o anything to back it up. :)

Beautifully said, MonkeySpot. The "release now, fix later" mindset that game developers and publishers have is absolutely ruining gaming. In this day and age it's pretty risky to buy a brand new game (as I did with Skyrim) simply because the game is most likely not finished. And guess what that makes you: a dude who payed $60 bucks to be a beta tester.

Do you guys remember console gaming before they had internet connectivity? Back in those days, what you put into the box and shipped to the public absolutely had to be the finished product. If you screwed up, tough ****. The deal was done. Therefore, developers had to work considerably harder back then to make sure that what they put on a SNES or N64 cartridge was of pristene quality.

The "internet age" is encouraging developers to be lazy when they code and release games. Due to the availability of patches, the final product can be released a year after the initial release.

I would just love to see a company work so hard on a newer game that it didn't need to be patched. And trust me, guys, it can be done. It's been done plenty of times in the past.

/rant

People are overreacting. IGN has created an army of Bethesda Haters just because a huge game is having problems on a console. josh494

And... It's not SONY'S fault that Bethesda released a $60 game without making sure it worked for that platform. You can make all the excuses for Bethesda you like, it doesn't excuse the fact that they sent the game for pressing to disc without testing it properly. If the console was so ****ed by it's maker for the purpose of running their engine, perhaps they should have thought about holding the game back on PS3 until they could make all of the massive changes to the game engine you outline in your post.

The fact that they recognize publicly that the game doesn't run on the PS3 due to partitioning, or whatever else they'd like to pass blame onto Sony for, but put it onsale anyway because they didn't want to lose revenue, or cause any undue stress on their consumers ("No 'Skyrim' on PS3??? OOOOHHHH NOOOO!!!!"), shows a blinding disrespect for the customer in the first place.

I started seeing Skyrim as a Xbox/PC game only. I know there are people that don't have lag issues, but I'll prefer to play safe and not buy it.

[QUOTE="josh494"]People are overreacting. IGN has created an army of Bethesda Haters just because a huge game is having problems on a console. MonkeySpot

And... It's not SONY'S fault that Bethesda released a $60 game without making sure it worked for that platform. You can make all the excuses for Bethesda you like, it doesn't excuse the fact that they sent the game for pressing to disc without testing it properly. If the console was so ****ed by it's maker for the purpose of running their engine, perhaps they should have thought about holding the game back on PS3 until they could make all of the massive changes to the game engine you outline in your post.

The fact that they recognize publicly that the game doesn't run on the PS3 due to partitioning, or whatever else they'd like to pass blame onto Sony for, but put it onsale anyway because they didn't want to lose revenue, or cause any undue stress on their consumers ("No 'Skyrim' on PS3??? OOOOHHHH NOOOO!!!!"), shows a blinding disrespect for the customer in the first place.

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

Peace on Earth, Good Will Towards Men, Go **** Yourself Bethesda. Ahmen.

MarcRecon

:shock:....Monkey!:P

If you can, get it for the "other" console.

DANGEROUS BREAKING NEWS: i have no lags that need to be fixed , i had 100 hours of fun so far and everything is fine

I stopped caring about Bethesda about a month ago. I realized the only games I ever bought from them were Elder Scrolls games and upon playing Skyrim, as great as the game is, it's really not that great and definately not GOTY material. So I told myself "Why should I keep buying their games if they won't even work properly simply because I own a PS3 and not a 360?" It suck because I was really pumped for Skyrim and this is pretty dissapointing. I can live without the ES series.

PS: Bethesda, if the patch isn't going to fix anything, why bother releasing it at all?

The_Wild_Tiger

Everything I ever thought but were unable to think of how to say it! Kudos and thank you, I feel the same way!

People are overreacting. IGN has created an army of Bethesda Haters just because a huge game is having problems on a console. It's not Bethesda's fault the Sony divided up the memory pool. It's not going to be an easy fix most likely. When it does get patched it will be huge. I have Skyrim on the PS3 with over 40 hours logged on to it. It's only frozen twice which is great compared to Fallout 3/New Vegas which froze a bunch. The game is not broken it's just having trouble. If you want to complain that they are slacking on it and are terrible developers, put your self in their shoes. Skyrim is huge! There are millions of things inside of it. Imagnine the difficulty it would take to find problems and fix them. Also since the problem is PS3 specific they are going to have to rewrite their engine so it caters more to it. That is alot of work and it's going to take time. And guess what people. There are other problems that run across all 3 platforms. Please just be patient and be happy with what you had. Games have come super long way. Especially The Elder Scrolls. Go look at The Elder Scrolls: Arena then realize how lucky you are. / Rant Sorry that was mostly aimed at IGN. They post an new Bethesda Hate article a week. I'm not a troll but i'm ready to be flamed.josh494

EDIT: I should mention that I love Skyrim, and that I appreciate and understand the complexity of the game, the content and all that crushes pretty much anything that came out this year. Im just disappointed that it has the exact same problems as Fallout 3 or New Vegas. One would think they gonna be more careful with Skyrim but no.

This is why it's good to have options. No-one should still only have one platform this late in the generation. Skyrim is on three different platforms.x-2tha-z

Says a person who obviously doesn't have bills, a family, and other expenses most regular people have...

... The above statement should receive the Marie Antoinette "Let Them Eat Cake" Award.

:lol:

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

[QUOTE="josh494"]People are overreacting. IGN has created an army of Bethesda Haters just because a huge game is having problems on a console. MethodManFTW

And... It's not SONY'S fault that Bethesda released a $60 game without making sure it worked for that platform. You can make all the excuses for Bethesda you like, it doesn't excuse the fact that they sent the game for pressing to disc without testing it properly. If the console was so ****ed by it's maker for the purpose of running their engine, perhaps they should have thought about holding the game back on PS3 until they could make all of the massive changes to the game engine you outline in your post.

The fact that they recognize publicly that the game doesn't run on the PS3 due to partitioning, or whatever else they'd like to pass blame onto Sony for, but put it onsale anyway because they didn't want to lose revenue, or cause any undue stress on their consumers ("No 'Skyrim' on PS3??? OOOOHHHH NOOOO!!!!"), shows a blinding disrespect for the customer in the first place.

[QUOTE="MethodManFTW"][QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

And... It's not SONY'S fault that Bethesda released a $60 game without making sure it worked for that platform. You can make all the excuses for Bethesda you like, it doesn't excuse the fact that they sent the game for pressing to disc without testing it properly. If the console was so ****ed by it's maker for the purpose of running their engine, perhaps they should have thought about holding the game back on PS3 until they could make all of the massive changes to the game engine you outline in your post.

The fact that they recognize publicly that the game doesn't run on the PS3 due to partitioning, or whatever else they'd like to pass blame onto Sony for, but put it onsale anyway because they didn't want to lose revenue, or cause any undue stress on their consumers ("No 'Skyrim' on PS3??? OOOOHHHH NOOOO!!!!"), shows a blinding disrespect for the customer in the first place.

Lazy_Marine

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

[QUOTE="josh494"]People are overreacting. IGN has created an army of Bethesda Haters just because a huge game is having problems on a console. MethodManFTW

And... It's not SONY'S fault that Bethesda released a $60 game without making sure it worked for that platform. You can make all the excuses for Bethesda you like, it doesn't excuse the fact that they sent the game for pressing to disc without testing it properly. If the console was so ****ed by it's maker for the purpose of running their engine, perhaps they should have thought about holding the game back on PS3 until they could make all of the massive changes to the game engine you outline in your post.

The fact that they recognize publicly that the game doesn't run on the PS3 due to partitioning, or whatever else they'd like to pass blame onto Sony for, but put it onsale anyway because they didn't want to lose revenue, or cause any undue stress on their consumers ("No 'Skyrim' on PS3??? OOOOHHHH NOOOO!!!!"), shows a blinding disrespect for the customer in the first place.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]This is why it's good to have options. No-one should still only have one platform this late in the generation. Skyrim is on three different platforms.MonkeySpot

Says a person who obviously doesn't have bills, a family, and other expenses most regular people have...

... The above statement should receive the Marie Antoinette "Let Them Eat Cake" Award.

:lol:

Terrible statement indeed. Also a lot of people could afford both consoles, but don't feel the need to have both because so many multiplatform games are released compared to exclusives, and a lot of times the multiplat games are better anyway.

So it's safe to say PS3 Oblivion > PS3 Skyrim?

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]This is why it's good to have options. No-one should still only have one platform this late in the generation. Skyrim is on three different platforms.MonkeySpot

Says a person who obviously doesn't have bills, a family, and other expenses most regular people have...

... The above statement should receive the Marie Antoinette "Let Them Eat Cake" Award.

:lol:

i bought it first on ps3. i did get some lag after a few hours of retrying the same dungeon over and over on harder difficulty. it stopped after rebooting the ps3. idk its playable i guess. i played 40 hours on it till i traded it in for pc product, then i took an arrow to the knee...

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]This is why it's good to have options. No-one should still only have one platform this late in the generation. Skyrim is on three different platforms.MonkeySpot

Says a person who obviously doesn't have bills, a family, and other expenses most regular people have...

... The above statement should receive the Marie Antoinette "Let Them Eat Cake" Award.

:lol:

yeah the issue that seems to be causing the problem def doesn't seem like something that can easily be patched it it would have to change the way a core function of the engine works which is usually isn't the type of thing that comes through a patch only tweaks come through a patch. The problem will probably never be fixed and they know that. I just wouldnt hold my breath for a fix.

So it's safe to say PS3 Oblivion > PS3 Skyrim?

ristactionjakso

I fully suspect my statement about you is about as accurate as your statement about me.x-2tha-z

You made an insensitive remark. Get over yourself and move along. I will. Post all you like from here on out, I'm not coming back to read any of it. Enjoy!

Come on cut them some slack. Skyrim Is a huge game and would take years to get every single thing working perfectly. I played 50 Hours and their really is'nt major problems i have experienced some lag issues after 5 hours of gameplay and some freezes. But Really their is'nt much to outrage about.

Come on cut them some slack. Skyrim Is a huge game and would take years to get every single thing working perfectly. I played 50 Hours and their really is'nt major problems i have experienced some lag issues after 5 hours of gameplay and some freezes. But Really their is'nt much to outrage about.

naju890_963

Beautifully said, MonkeySpot. The "release now, fix later" mindset that game developers and publishers have is absolutely ruining gaming. In this day and age it's pretty risky to buy a brand new game (as I did with Skyrim) simply because the game is most likely not finished. And guess what that makes you: a dude who payed $60 bucks to be a beta tester.

Do you guys remember console gaming before they had internet connectivity? Back in those days, what you put into the box and shipped to the public absolutely had to be the finished product. If you screwed up, tough ****. The deal was done. Therefore, developers had to work considerably harder back then to make sure that what they put on a SNES or N64 cartridge was of pristene quality.

The "internet age" is encouraging developers to be lazy when they code and release games. Due to the availability of patches, the final product can be released a year after the initial release.

I would just love to see a company work so hard on a newer game that it didn't need to be patched. And trust me, guys, it can be done. It's been done plenty of times in the past.

/rant

kultrva

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]I fully suspect my statement about you is about as accurate as your statement about me.MonkeySpot

You made an insensitive remark. Get over yourself and move along. I will. Post all you like from here on out, I'm not coming back to read any of it. Enjoy!

Come on cut them some slack. Skyrim Is a huge game and would take years to get every single thing working perfectly. I played 50 Hours and their really is'nt major problems i have experienced some lag issues after 5 hours of gameplay and some freezes. But Really their is'nt much to outrage about.

naju890_963

[QUOTE="naju890_963"]

Come on cut them some slack. Skyrim Is a huge game and would take years to get every single thing working perfectly. I played 50 Hours and their really is'nt major problems i have experienced some lag issues after 5 hours of gameplay and some freezes. But Really their is'nt much to outrage about.

tommyas

[QUOTE="kultrva"]

Beautifully said, MonkeySpot. The "release now, fix later" mindset that game developers and publishers have is absolutely ruining gaming. In this day and age it's pretty risky to buy a brand new game (as I did with Skyrim) simply because the game is most likely not finished. And guess what that makes you: a dude who payed $60 bucks to be a beta tester.

Do you guys remember console gaming before they had internet connectivity? Back in those days, what you put into the box and shipped to the public absolutely had to be the finished product. If you screwed up, tough ****. The deal was done. Therefore, developers had to work considerably harder back then to make sure that what they put on a SNES or N64 cartridge was of pristene quality.

The "internet age" is encouraging developers to be lazy when they code and release games. Due to the availability of patches, the final product can be released a year after the initial release.

I would just love to see a company work so hard on a newer game that it didn't need to be patched. And trust me, guys, it can be done. It's been done plenty of times in the past.

/rant

lgp_michael

Umm yeah, and if one of their 100+ developers just played the game on a PS3 for 50+ hours, had their game save file hit 12MB+ they would've noticed that their game is broke :|

For those of you who think the Lagg is "manageable" i suggest you check IGN's articles & Videos on this to see just how "manageable" the lag is :lol:

Also, Imagine Gear of War 3, broken halfway through with 4 Frames per second lagg, Do you know how HUGE of a news that would've been ?? EPIC would probably fire their entire QA team!! This is just as game-breaking on Skyrim ps3 as it would've been on GOW3.

Just cuz this is a PS3 only related problem (an insignifcant release for Bethesda), there hasn't been much Hype about this problem.

[QUOTE="tommyas"][QUOTE="naju890_963"]

Come on cut them some slack. Skyrim Is a huge game and would take years to get every single thing working perfectly. I played 50 Hours and their really is'nt major problems i have experienced some lag issues after 5 hours of gameplay and some freezes. But Really their is'nt much to outrage about.

naju890_963

Guys this game is magnificent. Those of you saying that this is trash and that they regret buying or won't buy it. i dont get it. What games are you guys playing? Tell me now because if its better than this game or anywhere close, i would love to play it. Thanks.

[QUOTE="x-2tha-z"]This is why it's good to have options. No-one should still only have one platform this late in the generation.Skyrim is on three different platforms.MonkeySpot

Says a person who obviously doesn't have bills, a family, and other expenses most regular people have...

... The above statement should receive the Marie Antoinette "Let Them Eat Cake" Award.

:lol:

:lol:....I can't get on you for that one Monk. My 360 went up on me over a year, I've been trying to replace it but I just haven't had the cash. Being a new homeowner and having other priorities makes it really easy on how NOT to throw away money.:P