4k tv worth it for PS4?

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#1 Posted by miguelv2002 (5 posts) -

Im looking to buy a new TV, around $2500-$3000 and around 65"-70"... I can either get a really high end 1080p or a 4k tv.. Worth it to get 4k tv? Guy at bestbuy said they compared gaming few days ago in the same size 1080p and 4k, and that the game looked wayyyyy better in the 4k (with the upscaling) is this true? Worth it to get a 4k?

#2 Posted by Megavideogamer (5466 posts) -

If you really want a 4K Television then get one. $2500-$3000 for a 4K television makes sense if you really watch a lot of Movies or Sports. But right now most television networks don't broadcast in 4K resolutions. So Hi definition Movies might have to do.

Currently Playstation 4 and Xbox one do not support 4K resolutions either. But it couldn't hurt to have a 4K 60-70 inch screen size. But you would have to watch a lot of Television to justify the purchase. So yes if you have $2500-$3000 to spend on a 4K television then go for it. But Gaming on the PS4 and Xbox one don't expect 4K support anytime soon. Eventually a software update could be issued to make the 8th generation systems compatible with 4K television resolutions.

If your a Movie bluff or sports fan go for it. But for gaming a regular 1080p/1080i 60-70 inch HDTV will do. Even in 2014 not many games output in 1080p. So 4K support in videogames is currently zero. Maybe when Playstation 5 and Xbox 4 arrive. 4K resolutions will be mainstream.

#3 Posted by miguelv2002 (5 posts) -

@Megavideogamer:

I know ps4 wont support 4k provaly ever, maybe ps5... But all im looking for is an opinion or a review from someone that has a 4k tv, and a ps4... Normally i dont like scaling since it looks distored, but im not sure is the same way with 4k resolutions since the extra many pixels...im just looking someone that has compared the image from a 1080p and a 4k for gaming.

Yes i love movies and thats the only reason i wanted 4k, but if games look distored or unplayable or worst than a 1080p then 4k is not the right choice for me

#4 Posted by jay_k3 (477 posts) -

I read somewhere that the ps4 will have the ability in the future to play 4k movies, but not games.

#5 Edited by thehig1 (2618 posts) -

if you watch a lot of TV it might be worth 4k, but if gaming wise the Ps4 struggles with 1080p never mind 4k.

#6 Posted by miguelv2002 (5 posts) -

how good/bad does 1080p ps4 games look on a 4k tv?

#7 Edited by thehig1 (2618 posts) -

@miguelv2002: I'm not 100% but I think it would look the same as on a 1080p TV. The Playstation 4 will output a max of 1080p currently and I dont think the TV itself will do any up scaling.

#8 Edited by a55a55inx (4188 posts) -

@miguelv2002: It depends. There really isn't much out there (yet) that takes advantage of 4K. The only real advantage of getting a 4K TV right now is that it will be future-proof (somewhat). Unfortunately, it's difficult to predict if there will be a cable/device that will become the standard when 4K is the norm. For example, my father purchased a 1080p TV in 2001 (and he was sure that it would be future-proof) but then the TV was created before HDMI was invented; so now I can't even use it with my PS4 or Xbox One.

Also, another thing you may want to consider is how far you will be sitting from the TV. If you plan on sitting farther than 9 feet from a 70" TV, then you won't be able distinguish the difference between 4K and 1080p. Places like Best Buy have you looking at their TV screens from 2-3 feet away, making it a lot easier to see the differences in HD.

My advice would be to just save some money and purchase a 1080p TV. There's not enough media out there to support 4K.

#9 Edited by slimdogmilionar (628 posts) -

I wouldn't buy a 4k tv yet since it's not widely used and when it does become the norm your tv may be lacking features or tech that the newer 4k tv's will have.

On a side note all tv's upscale images.

#10 Posted by Notorious1234NA (888 posts) -

No, console doesn't support 4k

#11 Posted by GTR12 (9792 posts) -

@miguelv2002:

Depends on what 4k TV you are looking at, the PS4 upscaler is a POS, don't let the PS4 upscale anything, if your looking at a high-end 4k TV, then the TV scaler will be fairly good and letting the TV scaler do its work is much better than the PS4.

#12 Posted by Soethi6 (99 posts) -

@slimdogmilionar said:

I wouldn't buy a 4k tv yet since it's not widely used and when it does become the norm your tv may be lacking features or tech that the newer 4k tv's will have.

On a side note all tv's upscale images.

this. Get a 4k TV when you "need" it and they are cheaper. There is just not enough media to justify the high price.

#13 Edited by bezza2011 (2662 posts) -

Playstation 4 and Xbox One has the ability to play 4K Blu Rays, it's gonna happen it's only a matter of a firmware up date, Movies just play through it unlike games which need processing power.

Anyway 4K is amazing I've seen them, I do not have one tho, What you need to look for, is one's with great upscalers

LINK

I know it's a english website, but the tv's are the best in the world at the moment, upscaling is key for buying into 4K at this moment in time. and I tell you now if you get the right upscaler 1080p to 4K is absolutely out of this world. good luck and let me know.

#14 Posted by sukraj (23204 posts) -

I think i will enventually buy a 4K tv in a few years time but at the moment i'm more than happy with my 1080p tv.

#15 Edited by yixingtpot (1413 posts) -

waste of time, by the time 4K is feasible regarding content there will be much better 4K TVs etc, just like with 1080p. My first HDTV was a Sharp that could manage 1080i and it chugged along for about 10 years, now you can't even find a HDTV that small that will do 1080p or 1080i only 720p, now we've got two 1080p 42 inch HDTVs and various smaller PC monitors etc, but things level out and you get much better quality for less if you wait.

If you buy 4K now you'll just regret it. Invest in a future proof modern sound system.

#16 Posted by Notorious1234NA (888 posts) -

You know ppl, the question is if 4K tv compatible with PS4.

The answer is no like seriously READ

#17 Edited by Dannystaples14 (975 posts) -

@miguelv2002: I'd say no. There is currently no form of official 4K video. Sure youtube has a few, but there are no disk formats with 4K so no movies, not a single channel that I know of on my provider in 4K. PS4 is not in 4K for anything at the moment even though 4K video is supposed to be supported for the future.

Right now I see no real reason to even own a 4K TV, even if the price is becoming more reasonable. I'd say save some money and buy the HD TV, the price of 4K will drop and drop every year so you will likely spend less in the long run if you decide to buy a 4K TV in future when there is actually something to watch on it.

The key for me with TV is not to buy the biggest TV possible, it is to buy the smallest TV feasible. Sure most people could probably cram a 100 inch HD TV in their living room but HD at 100 inches from six feet away will look terrible. HD on a 40 inch from six feet away on the other hand looks fantastic.

#18 Posted by Desertox1985 (6 posts) -

@miguelv2002: Right now 4K tv's are at an outrageous price. I think the cheapest one is 3,000 dollars and it goes up as high as to 25,000 dollars. Unbelievable, its like buying a car. Huge drop backs to 4K tvs are that there is very little 4K content to justify it. Plus its very hard to tell the difference between 4K tv and High Definition TV. Gamespot's sister website CNET, just announced the top 10 worst TV technologies.

http://www.cnet.com/news/ten-worst-tv-technologies/

So I would recommend don't get a 4K TV. I think TV in general are dying out. PC monitors are so much better to use for gaming.

#19 Posted by gcfreak898 (1765 posts) -

Right now with the way the hardware isn't doing 1080p on most games. I wouldn't recommend a 4k TV unless, you plan on hooking up a beefy pc to it.

#20 Posted by MondasM (1302 posts) -

as stated above, ps4 might get 4k in future, however i wouldn't bet on it, wait 5 more years for general support as well...

#21 Edited by commandokock (502 posts) -

4k is too ahead of its time right now. i doubt any ps4 games will ever actually be made in 4k resolution. i doubt the ps4 can handle that kind of resolution at an acceptable framerate [at least 30fps]. i think itd just be better to get a nice 1080p tv.

#22 Edited by KHAndAnime (14060 posts) -

4k is borderline a gimmick. Resolution need not go infinitely higher. Believe it or not, there's a "sweet spot", and 4k is way beyond that sweet spot.

#23 Edited by PS4hasNOgames (1771 posts) -

@miguelv2002 said:

Im looking to buy a new TV, around $2500-$3000 and around 65"-70"... I can either get a really high end 1080p or a 4k tv.. Worth it to get 4k tv? Guy at bestbuy said they compared gaming few days ago in the same size 1080p and 4k, and that the game looked wayyyyy better in the 4k (with the upscaling) is this true? Worth it to get a 4k?

well the thing is most channels aren't broadcasting at 4k, hell a lot still only do 720p.....but I saw 4k at best buy and it blew my mind. It looked amazing. Not sure how games look on it though. But if you are spending that much money on a tv then you might as well get a 4k tv already because some of the best 1080p tvs are only $1,000. A $3,000 1080p tv is pointless now.

#24 Posted by KHAndAnime (14060 posts) -

@ps4hasnogames said:

@miguelv2002 said:

Im looking to buy a new TV, around $2500-$3000 and around 65"-70"... I can either get a really high end 1080p or a 4k tv.. Worth it to get 4k tv? Guy at bestbuy said they compared gaming few days ago in the same size 1080p and 4k, and that the game looked wayyyyy better in the 4k (with the upscaling) is this true? Worth it to get a 4k?

well the thing is most channels aren't broadcasting at 4k, hell a lot still only do 720p.....but I saw 4k at best buy and it blew my mind. It looked amazing. Not sure how games look on it though. But if you are spending that much money on a tv then you might as well get a 4k tv already because some of the best 1080p tvs are only $1,000. A $3,000 1080p tv is pointless now.

Couldn't be any further than the truth. The best 1080P Plasma TVs crap on any 4K sets out in terms of PQ. You're absolutely throwing your money away with a 4k set now - by the time 4k is actually standard, the 4k TVs available will be a lot better in PQ and more appropriately priced.

#25 Edited by Dilrod (4241 posts) -

If your going to get 4k, go all out and get the 65 inch curved Samsung. It's close to the price range you stated. (Currently at $4299 at Best Buy.

#26 Edited by KHAndAnime (14060 posts) -

1st off, you aren't going to find any decent 4k TV's anywhere around $3k...

2nd - 4k is pointless unless you get a massive TV and sit close. Let's see why...

Here's a chart to reference what distance and size you can start to notice a benefit. Unless you're sitting within 7.5ft of a 60" television, the differences between 4k and 1080P are non-existent. You'd need to be within 4ft for the full benefit.

Other things to keep in mind is that there are no 4k TVs at the moment that are suitable for gaming because they have too much input lag. Furthermore, the guy at Best Buy lied to you - upscaling never looks as good as native. Native is the true signal of the source, upscaling degrades pictures quality and adds input lag due to additional signal processing.

So...unless you plan on getting a TV bigger than 60" and plan to sit within 6ft of it, and plan to do zero gaming - then you'd be throwing your money away. Plasma is still currently the best panel technology (higher motion resolution than OLED's on market, better contrast, better blacks). There are no 4k Plasmas. I would avoid marketing gimmicks and stay way from 4k until the standards are set and 4k content is readily available everywhere and better supported.

#27 Posted by gcfreak898 (1765 posts) -

With the trouble of Sony not getting some third party developers to get games up to snuff on 1080p. I wouldn't recommend buying a 4k t.v. right now. Hold off on it maybe the ps5 in about four and a half years from now will fully support 4k display with a wide variety of games at 4k.

#28 Posted by Prawephet (313 posts) -

@KHAndAnime: It took FAR too long for this answer to be posted.

I am a former Best Buy employee. I got to critique 4k tvs every day I was at work. I can say, without a doubt in my mind, they are a waste of money.

Now the local Best Buys in my area have OLED on display. It's incredible the image quality on the OLED. I actually cannot believe it. I really recommend you go check one out. The brightness an vivid colors of led. The color reproduction, black levels and super smooth motion of plasma. Unfortunately also the burn in of plasma.

#29 Posted by MondasM (1302 posts) -

@prawephet:

i guess the oled technology is in its infancy as well, however i didn't know that there were burn in issues on oled screens, too, thanks for the info... :)

#30 Posted by dw8928 (6 posts) -

Anyone who says 4k is overhyped are themselves superficial and dim. All you have to do is go look at a 4k TV and you will laugh at these people mocking 4k. I looked at an LG OLED 4k TV today at Best Buy and it came with a 55" screen, separate sound bar and woofer for a package total of $3500. AND IT IS AWESOME to look at. OLED 4k is IT. Regular 4k LED is it but less so and if OLED shows reliability in the blue pixels - regular LED witll be dead. PERIOD.

There were tons of 4k TVs on sale today with some as lows $1200.

#31 Posted by GTR12 (9792 posts) -

@dw8928 said:

Anyone who says 4k is overhyped are themselves superficial and dim. All you have to do is go look at a 4k TV and you will laugh at these people mocking 4k. I looked at an LG OLED 4k TV today at Best Buy and it came with a 55" screen, separate sound bar and woofer for a package total of $3500. AND IT IS AWESOME to look at. OLED 4k is IT. Regular 4k LED is it but less so and if OLED shows reliability in the blue pixels - regular LED witll be dead. PERIOD.

There were tons of 4k TVs on sale today with some as lows $1200.

*facepalm*

The TV's are made to look awesome, make the employees change the input to local broadcast, not those animated BD's they have showing, those are always awesome looking. Look at some 720p or 1080p broadcast upscaled using the scaler and then judge it.

#32 Posted by DigiTM64 (159 posts) -

For the same prices you can go a much larger 1080p screen, which would be more viable at the moment.

#33 Edited by MondasM (1302 posts) -

4k at the moment is an overkill, you can buy it, but you'll never use it for console gaming for the next 5 years, by then the prices will be as high as the hd 3d tvs... :D

#34 Posted by sukraj (23204 posts) -

@notorious1234na said:

No, console doesn't support 4k

#35 Edited by MBirdy88 (8443 posts) -

@miguelv2002: If you need to ask such basic questions the maybe you should not have a 4k TV .... as you won't likely notice anything about it.

I would wait right now.... 4k is not a big deal. hell ... a curved TV would be cooler. but to spend that much on technology that has little purpose yet.... especially as a home cinema....

#36 Edited by mattamomo (920 posts) -

Always buy a TV with the resolution you plan to use on it. Playing 1080p on a 4k TV will not look as good as 1080p on 1080p TV.

Focus on getting a good TV with low input lag for gaming, high refresh rate for movies, and good contrast ratios.

A high end Sony Bravia is always a good way to go. Also not all games are even 1080p on consoles so they will stretch horribly on a 4k monitor.

#37 Edited by JSchiager (6 posts) -

You guys are just dogging on 4k displays because you can't afford one haha I just bought a 55 inch and it looks absolutely incredible with my ps4. I sit about 12 feet away from my tv and I can tell a noticeable difference between my amazing 1080P 47 inch LED LG vs my new LG 55 inch 4k playing destiny on my ps4. The market is going that route.

It is only common sense that a 4096x2160 display will look better with better pixel density vs a 1920x1080 display. We're talking 8 million pixels here vs. 2 million pixels. DUH!!!

Yeah ps4 doesn't support 4k yet but the tv upscales a 1080p feed and you can tell!

I'm super happy with my setup now!

#38 Edited by chaplainDMK (6861 posts) -

@jschiager said:

You guys are just dogging on 4k displays because you can't afford one haha I just bought a 55 inch and it looks absolutely incredible with my ps4. I sit about 12 feet away from my tv and I can tell a noticeable difference between my amazing 1080P 47 inch LED LG vs my new LG 55 inch 4k playing destiny on my ps4. The market is going that route.

It is only common sense that a 4096x2160 display will look better with better pixel density vs a 1920x1080 display. We're talking 8 million pixels here vs. 2 million pixels. DUH!!!

Yeah ps4 doesn't support 4k yet but the tv upscales a 1080p feed and you can tell!

I'm super happy with my setup now!

What does a bazillionK TV help you when your piece of plastic has a hard time outputting 1,4 million pixels.

Up-scaling does jack, it stretches the image - period. 1,4 million pixels is 1,4 million pixels on a 1080p display and on a 4k display.

Go throw money at me, maybe I'll change my mind, seeing as you have oh so much money to flaunt. While you're at it, go throw some money at a plastic surgeon, maybe he can help you with your manhood deficit, so you wont need to show off your superiority with TV's.

#39 Posted by Gaming-Planet (14030 posts) -

I imagine it being a blurry mess. That's 1/4 of your TV blown up.

#40 Posted by Zelda187 (999 posts) -

Hell no

There's no real use in buying a 4K TV for at least another 2-3 years.

#41 Posted by MethodManFTW (25850 posts) -

4k screens are laggy af

#42 Edited by rogelio22 (2383 posts) -

I jus got a 4k lgub8500 tv for my pc and am waiting my 2 970s to arrive and let me tell you the resolution difference between 1080p is drastic even tho im only getting 15 to 30fps on my current gtx770... but no if ur gonna game only on ps4/xb1 the upscaling makes the image look blurry as playing 480 games on a 1080p set so no... get a 1080p set if ur sticking to ps4/one.. and only get a 4k if plan to spend some serious cash on a gaming pc

#43 Posted by Senor_Kami (8434 posts) -

4K is a waste imo. Even if you think it won't be, the PS4 isn't 4K and there is like zero 4K content really out there other than like some demo videos by TV manufacturers. There's no point. Just spend half that on an equal sized 1080p TV and by the time 4K is really popular (if it ever gets popular as a resolution for commercially releasing video content) make your next TV one.

#44 Posted by AutoPilotOn (8553 posts) -

I see zero reason to get a 4k TV right now unless you're using it as monitor for powerful pc

#45 Posted by mgools (931 posts) -

I admit I did not read all the posts, but keep in mind a 1080P on a 1080P TV will look better then 1080P on a 4K TV. When a TV upscales an image it creates a soft image. LED/LCD almost always look better at their native resolution. Also, 4K will not give you much unless you are watching a large TV at a close distance.

#46 Posted by Evo_nine (1758 posts) -

a 900p tv will suffice.

#47 Posted by Heirren (17735 posts) -

I'd get an oled. Fastest panels.

#48 Posted by humanistpotato (533 posts) -

consoles doesnt support 4k bro

#49 Posted by ArchoNils2 (6238 posts) -

Short answer: Probably not

While the upscaling does increase the picture quality, it isn't worth the price you are paying for it. That the guy wants to sell you the modern Tv is his job ^^ There are really only two reasons to get 4k right now: You have a strong Pc that can handle 4k (with like 970 SLI) or you want to get ready for the future (4k streaming and 4k BluRay, Tv will take years to get there)

#50 Posted by LexLas (4337 posts) -

I find most of the postings here to be bogus. I have no heard from Sony that the PS4 is capable of outputting at 4K, neither Xbox 1. But i could be wrong. If anyone can point me in the right direction to the official Sony posting about the PS4 capability to playing 4K, i would be very impressed and wrong. Justify it GS peeps !