Witcher 3 to be open world RPG

CD Project RED has released Cyberpunk 2077 teaser. As probably most people arleady know there is a hidden message in it. The relevant fragment:

"We are about to reveal our other project which is much closer to being completed and yes, it will also be a fully open-world game with an intense story. You can probably guess the game we're talking about. On the 5th of February it will all be clear." gamespot

I must say i am really disapointed. I always prefered story centered RPG over open world ones. Must every RPG be the same? I really like the fact Skyrim and Witcher go different paths, and i admittedly prefer the twisted and extremly branching storyline of W2. This is the approach i like, and whats more, i like the have the choice what kind of RPG i play. I like endless debates on forums which approach (linear story or open world) is better and makes "truer" RPG.

The experience shows, that open world cames at a price of the depth of the presented world and the story. Simply, it is neccesary to create a lot of content, that is essentially irrelevant to the plot, driving away time and resources from main story.

In the end i feels like CD ProjectRED is a greedy corporation just like everybody else. Skyrim outselled Witcher 2, we make a game like Skyrim. As if Witcher 2 was an inferior game. It definetaly isn't, it is merely different. I could understand people behind Dragon Age 2 following Skyrim example, as Dragon Age 2 was generally a disapointment, But W2 was triple A game, that won a lot of praise ( and money), and on few sites IRC it even won best RPG awards over Skyrim.

I dunno. Open world means different things to different people. I can't imagine them being able to pull off as great a story or atmosphere as The Witcher 1 or 2 in a true open world game like Elder Scrolls or GTA. Just have to wait and see, I guess. I'm not glad, but not disappointed yet either.

Yes, as long as they don't f*ck it up and try to make it like a Bethesda game. Luckily they would REALLY have to f*ck it up to do that much damage.

It says it will have an intense story. And yet you are still disappointed. Good Lord, people sometimes are.... just.... ugh.funsohng

I dunno. Open world means different things to different people. I can't imagine them being able to pull off as great a story or atmosphere as The Witcher 1 or 2 in a true open world game like Elder Scrolls or GTA. Just have to wait and see, I guess. I'm not glad, but not disappointed yet either.

guynamedbilly

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I dunno. Open world means different things to different people. I can't imagine them being able to pull off as great a story or atmosphere as The Witcher 1 or 2 in a true open world game like Elder Scrolls or GTA. Just have to wait and see, I guess. I'm not glad, but not disappointed yet either.

vfibsux

The Witcher 3 will most likely have to cover a few different wars across a few different kingdoms/empires, so...I guess an open-world model makes more sense? Maybe?
Perhaps they just mean that Geralt can travel between huge areas at will, rather than being dragged from location to location by the story.

Hm... Still, it's CDPR. If they have some good ideas for an open-world RPG, then I'd love to see them.

Open world wouldn't be too hard for them. They might just make a central hub that brances out kinda like the two areas in Act 2 (which ever path you choose).

[QUOTE="funsohng"]It says it will have an intense story. And yet you are still disappointed. Good Lord, people sometimes are.... just.... ugh.innominatus2

Elderscrolls open world + Witcher story = best game ever. CDPR has taken what Bioware did, and did it far better, maybe they can do the same for Bethesda. I have faith.

I dunno. Open world means different things to different people. I can't imagine them being able to pull off as great a story or atmosphere as The Witcher 1 or 2 in a true open world game like Elder Scrolls or GTA. Just have to wait and see, I guess. I'm not glad, but not disappointed yet either.

guynamedbilly

I wouldm´t call GTA open world. GTA was practically a set of missions where you could choose the order in which you want to tackle them. Missions were quite linear and didn´t over multiple approaches.

For me, open world and sand box are not the same thing.

It can still be story based progression and open world. I hope what he means is like Zelda, just with more RPG elements and sidequests you expect from an RPG like the Witcher (Only played a bit of 1).

So if this is like a super RPG heavy Zelda (not TES) it will be awesome! :)

as long as the game is better (or even on the same level for that matter) than witcher 2, i don't really care if it is open world or not

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I dunno. Open world means different things to different people. I can't imagine them being able to pull off as great a story or atmosphere as The Witcher 1 or 2 in a true open world game like Elder Scrolls or GTA. Just have to wait and see, I guess. I'm not glad, but not disappointed yet either.

jhonMalcovich

I wouldm´t call GTA open world. GTA was practically a set of missions where you could choose the order in which you want to tackle them. Missions were quite linear and didn´t over multiple approaches.

For me, open world and sand box are not the same thing.

Sandbox is a variation of open world. I consider all these games open world

Just Cause 2

GTA series

Assassins Creed

Saints Row

TES series

Zelda Series

Metroid Series

Diablo series

Tales of Symphonia, Vesperia, and others

Paper Mario series

Banjo Kazooie series

They couldn't even do a linear video game properly and now they will try open world. Well maybe they will be better suited to an openworld game but it's quite an undertaking. I honestly think the developers are not good enough, they're good but just no where close to good as they think. And they're obviously going after the " $ " after witnessing the success of the Skyrim.

As long as it is done right it doesnt matter.

But if it becomes one of those open world games with awfully repetitive environments, quality over quanitity design, game design that does not take advantage of open world, 500 uninspired quests and the fact that every department of the game sucks because of the open world. Then This is terrible news.

Definitely like it, one thing TW2 was lacking was a bigger world. It was sad to be limited in such a fantastic world

Was the witcher 1 bascially open world. As long as the story is good and they keep the combat from the witcher 2.0 idc.

The witcher 2 had some stunning looking locations, the forest around flotsam was beautiful and looked natural but was quite small, if they can make an openworld game with a forest looking like that and not like randomly place trees and shrubs you get in other openworld games then I'd be quite happy

I'd love to be able to take Geralt out onto huge grass lands on horse and see those mysterious looking woods on the horizon

As long as it is done right it doesnt matter.

But if it becomes one of those open world games with awfully repetitive environments, quality over quanitity design, game design that does not take advantage of open world, 500 uninspired quests and the fact that every department of the game sucks because of the open world. Then This is terrible news.

Maroxad

Thats why I hope it is more like a Zelda world, though likely decently bigger than msot Zelda worlds. The Witcher doesnt strike me as a TES kind of game and as you said, having massive areas that all feel the same with tons of repetitive quests is boring.

I'd love to be able to take Geralt out onto huge grass lands on horse and see those mysterious looking woods on the horizon

Supabul

Describing my hope for Zelda WiiU ;).

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As long as it is done right it doesnt matter.

But if it becomes one of those open world games with awfully repetitive environments, quality over quanitity design, game design that does not take advantage of open world, 500 uninspired quests and the fact that every department of the game sucks because of the open world. Then This is terrible news.

NaveedLife

Thats why I hope it is more like a Zelda world, though likely decently bigger than msot Zelda worlds. The Witcher doesnt strike me as a TES kind of game and as you said, having massive areas that all feel the same with tons of repetitive quests is boring.

Hope that they don't change too much, Witcher 2 was perfect, the only complaint I had was that there wasn't more of it.

And they better not dumb it down like Bioware did to the mass effect series and dragon age.

I suppose it could work, so long as the quests and missions remain focused.

Release date is planned for 2015, right?

Well, the story aspect of a game and the open-world aspect are mutually exclusive. Just because it's in a sandbox doesn't mean the story has to disappear. :PMcspanky37

Hopefully CD Projeckt will do a good job, It could be that the quests are still linear but you have the option of exploring, like Far Cry 3.

I just hope it won't be as short as W2.Nighteg

I still need to play the first Witcher game. I really want to take a break from shooters

If you can point to me the part where CDP said, "we want to make it like skyrim", then ok, if not, this thread is stupid. why? becuase you flat out said that CDPR is greedy and whatnot, as if you've somehow magically played the game. A game not even close to release.

My body is ready

If they plan to make it open world " like Skyrim then hopefully they give the world life and offer plenty of things to do. Lest you go crawling around dungeons that look alike looking for loot that you don't even need.

I hope they improve the combat and the ui... KalDurenik

I couldn't agree more. The combat in both Witcher games was terrible and while I've never hidden the fact that I'm not a fan of cinematic story-telling in RPGs, at least CDPR doesn't go full Simple Jack like some other developers.

I think I liked the idea (and the company) behind The Witcher games more than the actual games themselves. Both were a bit of a struggle for me to complete.

[QUOTE="Nighteg"]I just hope it won't be as short as W2.mitu123

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"]I hope they improve the combat and the ui... -wildflower-

I couldn't agree more. The combat in both Witcher games was terrible and while I've never hidden the fact that I'm not a fan of cinematic story-telling in RPGs, at least CDPR doesn't go full Simple Jack like some other developers.

I think I liked the idea (and the company) behind The Witcher games more than the actual games themselves. Both were a bit of a struggle for me to complete.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Nighteg"]I just hope it won't be as short as W2.dracolich55