Will vista ever get better or faster for gamers?

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#1 ixi311downerixi
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ok So before i get all these anwsers that criticize, Let me say this. i Have tried vista for a good amount of time, probaly a good 2 months straight and i have come to the conclusion that will Vista ever be like XP? where as games run smoothly and we would be able to run DX10 games? I Mean if games now are taking a performace hit from being played on vista, Will the DX10 games take a hit also? or can they be optimized better for vista?. Because yea i want to play Crysis, Bioshock etc. with DX10 but not if it looks like a screenshot ( Very low FPS).
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#2 Jonesy852
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of course it will get better. You just have to wait until the Service Packs start coming out

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#3 Unstoppable_1
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LOL your sig is funny. Don't buy Vista now get it later. You don't need it for Crysis, Bioshock, nor Assasin's Creed. Those will run fine on XP.
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#4 ixi311downerixi
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I Have tried vista home premuim but some games didnt run up to par. I mean i dont wanna play or have a DX10 experience and have my games look like a slideshow the whole time. I have an e6600 at 3.2, 2 gigs of ram, 8800gtx and a xifi xtremegamer sound card so i should be able to run everything maxed but i just wanna know will they optimize crysis, bioshock etc and make them playable (I mean run really fast) while using DX10 on vista?

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#5 The_PC_Gamer
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i Have tried vista for a good amount of time, probaly a good 2 months straight and i have come to the conclusion that will Vista ever be like XP? .ixi311downerixi

do you mean you "came to wonder"?

And yeah, im sure it will get better. But from what Im hearing, its still not ready so I will get XP Pro for my new system next month.

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#6 rainierflu
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give vista a year or so then upgrade...maybe things will be better by then...right now..yikes dont bother
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#7 xcryonicx
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Vista still needs time for hardware to advance so that more people have the power to run games on it. Right now, only top of the line hardware with Vista is worth it for gaming alone. The OS is great, but when I'm gaming I could care less about the snazzy Aero, so I dual boot to XP :)
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#8 Gog
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Theperformance loss between Vista and XP is small in most games. I can tell from my own experience on a dual boot system and from recent benchmarks.

Every new OS is slower than the previous version. That goes without saying. It was the same going from Win98 to XP.

Directx 10 games will of course run slower on the same hardware. You can't have better looking games at no performance cost. Anybody who believe(d)directx 10 being faster obviously understands little about computers.

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#10 rbfinnegan
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Theperformance loss between Vista and XP is small in most games. I can tell from my own experience on a dual boot system and from recent benchmarks.

Every new OS is slower than the previous version. That goes without saying. It was the same going from Win98 to XP.

Directx 10 games will of course run slower on the same hardware. You can't have better looking games at no performance cost. Anybody who believe(d)directx 10 being faster obviously understands little about computers.

Gog

dx10 is built entirely different then dx9, all the cards previously from dx10 use pixel pipelines which means that it doesnt always works at its 100 percent, dx10 cards have stream pipelines which are fixed to operate at there max capacities, all dx10 cards will be compatible with all the games features regardless if its mainstream or gaming. ofcourse the only difference will be the frames. DX10 cards are actually faster because since it has these types of steam processing pipelines it will give u a steady frame rate.

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#11 lucky326
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I say Sp1 or Sp2 it will start showing what it can really do, then again they already have the successor planned for 09.
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#12 whgresiak
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You gotta wait for service packs for one. Two if you're using it for gaming, turn off aero, total waste of processing and RAM power.
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#13 SgtSilock
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I head they wont be releasing a service pack... they will just release live updates with the updated update (lol) feature built in Vista.
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#14 Deihmos
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You gotta wait for service packs for one. Two if you're using it for gaming, turn off aero, total waste of processing and RAM power.whgresiak

I am not sure how it works but with aero on the desktop and applications loadmuch faster compared to when off. Nvidia among other drivers are what needs tweaking to get performance better. Right now there is hardly any difference but when I first installed it Battlefield was a bit jerky .

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#15 lucky326
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I head they wont be releasing a service pack... they will just release live updates with the updated update (lol) feature built in Vista.Phantsy16
Actually MS have already confirmed SP1 for sometime in Q4 07 although it could be pushed to Q1 08.
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#16 Megaflare252
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Right now there really is no difference in Vista gaming yet. I upgraded in the beginning and saw no difference. There are still a lot of stability issues for certain games. And also a whole lot of software that just doesnt run right. If I knew better I would probably have held off on upgrading. Although it looks good there are just too many performance and compatability issues with a lot of software now. It is getting better as more time passes but its a slow road.

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#17 xcryonicx
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Aero being on/off has nothing to do with in game performance. Unless you're in windowed mode. The OS disables the 3d interface whenever the screen loads full screen applications such as games by itself.
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#18 nosferatu
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Actually, everything I've read has said that Aero has absolutely no performance impact as long as your graphics card is capable of displaying it.

As far as performance discrepancies, most of it is either a myth or an outdated rumor. Vista performance is almost up to par with XP performance at this point (HardOCP has a comparison) for most games. The majority of these issues stemmed around early driver releases that were fairly incomplete, but are dramatically better now.

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#19 ribbit4u
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Ive had vista since rt2, (thank you torrents) and the drivers sucked, i got vista ultimate when it first came out, it was so cool but still, the drivers sucked, i kept it, i had quite a few updates, now, Windows fix most (or all)of their bugs with drivers, i havnt even had one problem, even installed some on friends computer, they were good too. i guess it just took them a while to fix it, ppl are still complaining about the amount needed to run it, that is kinda true, start up is 400MB, but if you just up it to 2gigs, ur fine, (i was playing Spiderman3 like nothing) things run so much better on vista, not just speed wise but the way it uses its tools, like the start button, u can search in a nano-second for the program without opening up any new window . Xp this would take 5 mins to do a single search, now, i cant go back to XP, its too plan and has no depth,

Ultmate has no real big use, but it has potentual. i love dream Scene.

I give Vista 6months to a year to get better (with hardware), and 3 years for ppl to catch up with it

watch, by that time specs will be

8 gigs Ram,

4.9 Ghz quad core

2-3 Terabytes HD.....(faster then SATA? 6gig transfer?)

2gig Nvidia (sum powerful name)

4x BlueRay......Image it. imagine having all that now....*Drools*

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#20 dayaccus007
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After 1 year of live maybe Vista will be faster than XP,until then,no chance
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#21 atony12
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vista right now is a piece of trash that was spilled by racoons all over the interstate and some guy took it and sold them

they can not play almost half the pc games out there without upgrading or doin some confusing technical stuff i have an xp and im happy with it and i will gurantie u i will NEVER get a vista

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#23 juggernaut8419
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Of course it will get better. DirectX 10 will take a little while to show you what it is capable of since it always takes a while to take advantage of a new technology.

Other than problems with Nvidia (which isn't really a problem with Vista) I think it has been great. The RAM usage that every brings up isn't really a problem. It's just prefetch filling up free resources so you have quick application start up. If you start a game, it releases the resources you need. Sure the FPS is slightly lower, mostly just a few FPS for most of the games I play, but its not a large problem and with every new driver release the gap closes.

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Vista still needs time for hardware to advance so that more people have the power to run games on it. Right now, only top of the line hardware with Vista is worth it for gaming alone. The OS is great, but when I'm gaming I could care less about the snazzy Aero, so I dual boot to XP :)xcryonicx

i was under the impression that it was the other way round, we have the hardware, but nothign to use it with. ive had my 8800gtx months before vista came out.

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#25 Death-Knight_RS
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Yep.
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#26 Zeke129
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The whole "poor compatibility with Vista" thing is a MYTH.

I have been using Vista for about 3 months now and have had NO issues. I have reinstalled all games and software from my XP machine and everything works fine. The only thing even REMOTELY close to an "issue" would be 3DSMax 9 not working without downloading a patch provided free by Autodesk. All games work nearly identical and in many cases, work better. Fact.

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#27 lettuceman44
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[QUOTE="xcryonicx"]Vista still needs time for hardware to advance so that more people have the power to run games on it. Right now, only top of the line hardware with Vista is worth it for gaming alone. The OS is great, but when I'm gaming I could care less about the snazzy Aero, so I dual boot to XP :)WARxSnake

i was under the impression that it was the other way round, we have the hardware, but nothign to use it with. ive had my 8800gtx months before vista came out.

yea, the hardware is overkill right now for anything.
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#28 captalchol
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vista won't get faster but hardware will and yes it will be like xp speed wise in a year or two or three...