Which TV brand is best Part 2: Toshiba, Philips, Pioneer, and Vizio

Here's part 2 as promisied. Yes Pioneer is here, and even Vizio (apparently people like them)

Pioneer is easily the best brand on this list. Their plasmas are the best of all plasma, sadly they are pulling out of the plasma biz so it almost becomes a moot point.

I have always been a Toshiba fan, but as of late their stuff seems to be a bit lower then their normal level of quality and pricing.

Vizio is a good TV for the price. They aren't top notch, but most people can't tell the difference and some of their TV's test very well.

I would say Pioneer generally makes the best sets out of those four. However, that's not to say there aren't any Toshibas/philips models that don't exceed some of the pioneers priced at the same budget. Vizio? I would campare them more to brands like LG, which I'm not a fan of, because most of the sets they make aren't even worth looking at, and all the lg products i've ever owned have NEVER lasted--so i guess it's somewhat based on principle.

Visio is currently sells the most TVs in North America, mostly due to a pretty good price/square inch of screen and passable image quality. This is pretty remarkable seeing as this company was a very small fish in a huge pond with fishes like Sony and Samsung around. For what you get I say Visio.

Pioneer blows the rest of these out of the water, but they no longer are making TV's. Their top engineers were hired by Panasonic. Vizio is a crap shoot as they buy parts from multiple manufacturers and put them together. Could turn out good (Some of their early plasmas were Sony /Panasonic parts) or not so good (I've seen some problematic plasmas (LG parts) from them and some poorly performing LCD's).

Finally part 2 :)...Well as a newowner of the Elite Kuro I can say Prioneer wins this...By some miles.

EDIT: BTW, Pioneer has not sold their patents to Panasonic, so even if some of their staff moved to Panasonic they'll have to innovate in another way. Anyways another question is brought up. Why would Pioneer keep the patents? Well a month or two back at the official dealer were I purchased my Elite Kuro, one of the staff said Pioneer might be dropping out for a few years and coming back into the TV market later on.

vizio. it has good tvs in all formats. lcd,plasma, led. so they win.....

They also have some very poor tv's in all formats.rastan

If we judge purely on their respective High end sets:

Pioneer

Phillips

Toshiba

Vizio

That being said, they all have good price to performance sets as well.

Philips, they're one of the few companies which offer bang for ever buck, atleast in my country.

ive only ever had a panasonic one and those haave bad sound.

Philips, they're one of the few companies which offer bang for ever buck, atleast in my country.

thug_angel123

Pioneer blows the rest of these out of the water, but they no longer are making TV's. Their top engineers were hired by Panasonic. Vizio is a crap shoot as they buy parts from multiple manufacturers and put them together. Could turn out good (Some of their early plasmas were Sony /Panasonic parts) or not so good (I've seen some problematic plasmas (LG parts) from them and some poorly performing LCD's).

rastan

Pioneer blows the rest of these out of the water, but they no longer are making TV's. Their top engineers were hired by Panasonic. Vizio is a crap shoot as they buy parts from multiple manufacturers and put them together. Could turn out good (Some of their early plasmas were Sony /Panasonic parts) or not so good (I've seen some problematic plasmas (LG parts) from them and some poorly performing LCD's).

[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="rastan"]

Pioneer blows the rest of these out of the water, but they no longer are making TV's. Their top engineers were hired by Panasonic. Vizio is a crap shoot as they buy parts from multiple manufacturers and put them together. Could turn out good (Some of their early plasmas were Sony /Panasonic parts) or not so good (I've seen some problematic plasmas (LG parts) from them and some poorly performing LCD's).

Cait__Sith

[QUOTE="rastan"]

Pioneer blows the rest of these out of the water, but they no longer are making TV's. Their top engineers were hired by Panasonic. Vizio is a crap shoot as they buy parts from multiple manufacturers and put them together. Could turn out good (Some of their early plasmas were Sony /Panasonic parts) or not so good (I've seen some problematic plasmas (LG parts) from them and some poorly performing LCD's).

monson21502

[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="monson21502"] crazy he put a elite plasma maker in a poll with second class lcd makers. no wonder the poll is such a landslide.monson21502

Pioneer blows the rest of these out of the water, but they no longer are making TV's. Their top engineers were hired by Panasonic. Vizio is a crap shoot as they buy parts from multiple manufacturers and put them together. Could turn out good (Some of their early plasmas were Sony /Panasonic parts) or not so good (I've seen some problematic plasmas (LG parts) from them and some poorly performing LCD's).

[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"][QUOTE="monson21502"] crazy he put a elite plasma maker in a poll with second class lcd makers. no wonder the poll is such a landslide.monson21502

The Elite Kuro are easily the best HDTVs on the market, as an owner I can guarantee you that. I've seen the best from basically all the other companies too. If my word isn't good enough for you look online for like 2 seconds andevery review youread will tell you it is the best.Also the Elite Kuro isn't sold at places like Walmart...You need to find an actual dealer. Ignore all online prices of Elite Kuro's because they are not true. The Elite Kuro goes for like $3,200-$3,400 now, and that's if you can find one. Fortunately I got my Elite some months back and even then they were almost impossible to find.

[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="rastan"]

Pioneer blows the rest of these out of the water, but they no longer are making TV's. Their top engineers were hired by Panasonic. Vizio is a crap shoot as they buy parts from multiple manufacturers and put them together. Could turn out good (Some of their early plasmas were Sony /Panasonic parts) or not so good (I've seen some problematic plasmas (LG parts) from them and some poorly performing LCD's).

Innovazero2000

From what i've seen from their US models, and their reliability. I'd say they are pretty second class. Pieces of garbage.

Beyond that, Philips out sourced most if not all of their TV production to Funai.

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"][QUOTE="monson21502"] crazy he put a elite plasma maker in a poll with second class lcd makers. no wonder the poll is such a landslide.kryloc

From what i've seen from their US models, and their reliability. I'd say they are pretty second class. Pieces of garbage.

Beyond that, Philips out sourced most if not all of their TV production to Funai.

Thats because the US never saw some of phillips better TV's (they were never big in the US a big reason for the outsourcing), I can assure you their high end LCD's are pretty damn impressive. They are big in europe, which is where a lot of the good stuff is.

Not all the US stuff is bad though, the 7000 series TV's are fairly impressive for the price. Most all phillips stuff is extremely accurate with color, I would say the only negitive with the low ends is black levels could be better.

anyone have this tv?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889253222

We compared the Tosh 32AV502R/U (720p version of what you are looking at) to a Panasonic Viera and Samsung LCD (both 720p) for my father in law and we ended up getting the Panasonic. We both liked the Samsung LN32B360C5D a little better, but he saved $100 going with the Panasonic with iPod dock. This TV was for a secondary room where the seating is 7'-13' feet away. The extra money for the 1080p sets wasn't worth it as they sit to far from that size tv to notice any difference.rastan

[QUOTE="rastan"]We compared the Tosh 32AV502R/U (720p version of what you are looking at) to a Panasonic Viera and Samsung LCD (both 720p) for my father in law and we ended up getting the Panasonic. We both liked the Samsung LN32B360C5D a little better, but he saved $100 going with the Panasonic with iPod dock. This TV was for a secondary room where the seating is 7'-13' feet away. The extra money for the 1080p sets wasn't worth it as they sit to far from that size tv to notice any difference.monson21502

Depending on when/where you live/order from you can get any 32" 720P TV for 400. This includes, Sony, Samsung, Panasonic and all the others. Make sure to look up the features if they aren't listed. When you go for a low price, some retailers will sell a stripped down model.

IE: Samsung 430 series instead of a 450/460 series.

If you have a Boscov's around, they had the Panasonic 32" with iPod dock for $350. Often Best Buy puts the LN32B360C5D for $400.rastan