When will Crysis-level graphics become mainstream?

How long do you think it will take for mainstream games to become as demanding on our computers as Crysis? Will games in the near future like Starcraft 2 and Alan Wake require anything near what Crysis did? Discuss.

Just when I get an Epicly Awesome Computer. Hopefully.

How long do you think it will take for mainstream games to become as demanding on our computers as Crysis? Will games in the near future like Starcraft 2 and Alan Wake require anything near what Crysis did? Discuss.

Noobivore36

Not for awhile, as I think gameplay is resurging as the king feature of our hobby. Exhibit A: the Wii.Gammit10

the wii has doesn't have good graphics or gameplay. No game on the wii is good.

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

Charles_Dickens

[QUOTE="Gammit10"]Not for awhile, as I think gameplay is resurging as the king feature of our hobby. Exhibit A: the Wii.simardbrad

the wii has doesn't have good graphics or gameplay. No game on the wii is good.

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

Charles_Dickens

The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

Charles_Dickens

I always see you ranting about how rubbish Crysis's textures are, and I can't possibly fathom what the **** you're on about.

I'd suspect that after Crysis 2 gets released we'll start seeing games that look better or as good as Crysis, but then again it's just speculation.

[QUOTE="Gammit10"]Not for awhile, as I think gameplay is resurging as the king feature of our hobby. Exhibit A: the Wii.simardbrad

the wii has doesn't have good graphics or gameplay. No game on the wii is good.

System Wars forum: USE IT

[QUOTE="Gammit10"]Not for awhile, as I think gameplay is resurging as the king feature of our hobby. Exhibit A: the Wii.simardbrad

the wii has doesn't have good graphics or gameplay. No game on the wii is good.

i think the next wave of consoles to come out in a few years will be awfully close, at which point pc hardware capable of running crysis on high will be more affordable.paullywog

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

Charles_Dickens

LOL, you think that Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis? Are you serious? Fallout 3 has some of the ugliest low res textures I've seen this gen. If you think Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis you must be blind or playing Crysis on low/medium settings. Same goes for GTAIV which had very muddy textures. Mirror's Edge has nice textures but that's only because a large chunk of the color pallet has been removed from the game thanks to the art direction which makes it a lot easier on the hardware (certainly you've noticed by now that everything in the game a single, solid color). Far Cry 2 has a very similar engine to that of Crysis so I'm at a loss for how you think that game looks better.

See, I'm finding it diffcult to understand how you think that this:

Is better than this:

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

Charles_Dickens

lol, I hope you are joking.

When everyone has a Crysis capable computer, 3-6 years maybe

[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

gameguy6700

LOL, you think that Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis? Are you serious? Fallout 3 has some of the ugliest low res textures I've seen this gen. If you think Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis you must be blind or playing Crysis on low/medium settings. Same goes for GTAIV which had very muddy textures. Mirror's Edge has nice textures but that's only because a large chunk of the color pallet has been removed from the game thanks to the art direction which makes it a lot easier on the hardware (certainly you've noticed by now that everything in the game a single, solid color). Far Cry 2 has a very similar engine to that of Crysis so I'm at a loss for how you think that game looks better.

those random screenshots dotn prove anything, take some real screenshots and focus closly to the textures if you wanna show something.

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

dakan45

LOL, you think that Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis? Are you serious? Fallout 3 has some of the ugliest low res textures I've seen this gen. If you think Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis you must be blind or playing Crysis on low/medium settings. Same goes for GTAIV which had very muddy textures. Mirror's Edge has nice textures but that's only because a large chunk of the color pallet has been removed from the game thanks to the art direction which makes it a lot easier on the hardware (certainly you've noticed by now that everything in the game a single, solid color). Far Cry 2 has a very similar engine to that of Crysis so I'm at a loss for how you think that game looks better.

those random screenshots dotn prove anything, take some real screenshots and focus closly to the textures if you wanna show something.

If you've ever played any of those games I'm sure we can agree that the textures are not up to par with Crysis. Far Cry 2 and Mirror's Edge maybe, but Fallout 3 and GTAIV? You'd have to be legally blind to think that those two games' muddy textures are good. I'm not going to go through the effort of playing through three games (one of which I would have to reinstall) and buying two others just to make a point that I would think can be seen in any screenshot. The ones I posted show the textures in each fairly decently.

But what the hell, I found a couple better screenshots. It's just of Fallout 3 and Crysis though, but I think it illustrates my point that Charles_Dickens has no idea of what he's talking about:

Fallout 3:

And a link to a slew of close-up Fallout 3 textures. It's a for an HD texture pack mod though so only the pics labeled "default" are relevant.

Crysis:

Yep, Crysis sure does look like ass alright :roll: And wow, look at those amazing Fallout 3 textures. I can't believe it's not real life!

Posting screenshots is pretty much a waste of time. The only way to judge is by looking at the game in person. It's like showing somebody a picture of a woman. You have to see her in person.

[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

gameguy6700

LOL, you think that Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis? Are you serious? Fallout 3 has some of the ugliest low res textures I've seen this gen. If you think Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis you must be blind or playing Crysis on low/medium settings. Same goes for GTAIV which had very muddy textures. Mirror's Edge has nice textures but that's only because a large chunk of the color pallet has been removed from the game thanks to the art direction which makes it a lot easier on the hardware (certainly you've noticed by now that everything in the game a single, solid color). Far Cry 2 has a very similar engine to that of Crysis so I'm at a loss for how you think that game looks better.

See, I'm finding it diffcult to understand how you think that this.

I don't agree with him, but sorry to say this, you're wrong too.

First, GTA 4, I don't know if you played it maxed out on PC, but the game looks great and the textures are extremely sharp and detailed, when it begins to rain it looks even better it's superb.

Last, Fallout 3, I bet you know but there are mods for it and this mod changes a lot, imo the road textures look kinda awkward but the rest are just phenomenal, I'd say at 2048 the textures look better than any game released so far, even Mirror's Edge but it's pretty close thanks to that lighting engine.

But technically none compare to Crysis and frankly the texture mod is garbage, sure the guy spend a lot of time on it, but he just played around with parallax mapping and the burn tool from Photoshop or w/e.

I never though I'd agree with Charles on anything o_0.

Crysis vanilla is TWO YEARS OLD. When you factor in development time, its even older. Probably 4 years old or more. And I'm pretty sure that the devs have to use some low res textures for alot of parts of the game because if they did not, no one can play the damn game at high.

But what's more important is that the Cryengine 2 is capable to enhance and upgrade itself with mods to continue looking better and better, up-to-par or even actually surpasses every new game that has been released or going to be released 2 years later. Thats what made Crysis, or to be precise, CryEngine 2, to be the top dog in visuals up till now.

How long do you think it will take for mainstream games to become as demanding on our computers as Crysis? Will games in the near future like Starcraft 2 and Alan Wake require anything near what Crysis did? Discuss.

Noobivore36

crysis screens look too much fake, the stones and the vegetations look like flat photographs, but fallout 3 has geometry.....check the road in fallout 3 it has much higher detail than crysis.dakan45

Anyway Fallout 3's textures, unmodded, looks almost decent but with the texture mod they look awesome and are way above most games, but overall technically Crysis is better, tho, when it comes to detail and variety GTA IV is the best.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]crysis screens look too much fake, the stones and the vegetations look like flat photographs, but fallout 3 has geometry.....check the road in fallout 3 it has much higher detail than crysis.DanielDust

Anyway Fallout 3's textures, unmodded, looks almost decent but with the texture mod they look awesome and are way above most games, but overall technically Crysis is better, tho, when it comes to detail and variety GTA IV is the best.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]crysis screens look too much fake, the stones and the vegetations look like flat photographs, but fallout 3 has geometry.....check the road in fallout 3 it has much higher detail than crysis.dakan45

Anyway Fallout 3's textures, unmodded, looks almost decent but with the texture mod they look awesome and are way above most games, but overall technically Crysis is better, tho, when it comes to detail and variety GTA IV is the best.

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="DanielDust"] No matter how much you look at them they will always seem 3D, even if they're partially flat, what you're looking at there isn't Crysis' problem but the rock textures and some textures for the walls, so the problem here is you, they don't look fake, but you want to consider them fake for some reason.

Anyway Fallout 3's textures, unmodded, looks almost decent but with the texture mod they look awesome and are way above most games, but overall technically Crysis is better, tho, when it comes to detail and variety GTA IV is the best.

DanielDust

screenshots somewhere in this thread.... but i shouldnt bother with you we never agree.... remember gothic 3?

screenshots somewhere in this thread.... but i shouldnt bother with you we never agree.... remember gothic 3?

dakan45

[QUOTE="dakan45"]screenshots somewhere in this thread.... but i shouldnt bother with you we never agree.... remember gothic 3?

DanielDust

who cant admit facts me or you and your precious gothic 3? dont post anything i dont care i have both games right now and i am sick and tired of hearing stuff... what you guys keep talking about aint facts, they are your opinions and everyone who says otherwise should leave this forum...jeez no wonder people hate so much pc users in the system wars forum.... -so am off.. bye!dakan45

Actually Gothic 3 sucks compared to G2 (so it's not my "precious" Gothic), but it's a way better RPG than Oblivion and I was arguing with you because you wanted something extremely useless, and you wanted to know the ending before you played the game (where is Xardas). And what I was talking about are facts, the ground in Crysis is 3D, the screenshot you saw there show how detailed the ground is, but it doesn't show a portion that also has 3D objects, the same with Fallout but that screenshot just happened to be in a place where there are some 3D objects.

I didn't say to leave the forums, I just said that there is a part of it that you don't know, that's exactly the type of attitude people that go on SW have, they don't care about what they don't know and anything new to them they mindlessly bash and hate, and most console players also have a grudge on PC gamers and they want to prove themselves that their games are better because they'll be much cooler if they do that and of course PC users get mad when they read all those stupid responses and threads. If you want PC gamers to listen to you, you might have to keep the SW reference to you ;) it's not good for making a point especially when you bring into discussion things that have no relevance which in turn were facts (Gothic does not need more "showing locations" in it, that is not what Gothic is about).

Stop it with the SW I don't really care, nobody really cares actually, they don't use common sense and they aren't like "oh it's not even worth it to argue" they abuse grammar, logic and forum rules there, that's what they are like on SW, mostly console gamers, but there are a few PC gamers that do that.

This is not that thread, but I'll humor your. I don't hate Oblivion because of the level balance, which is a fundamental flaw. You have more than enough monsters in Gothic to level up.

I hate Oblivion because:

- it has a huge pointless, empty world, too much copy-pasting without actually using their brains to fill it

- one of the most dead world ever, it's retarded to compare it to Gothic when it comes to this, the cities are dead, people are monotonous and are always the same

- voice acting sucks and the cast is extremely limited, they had Patrick Stewart, but that isn't enough

- limited number of NPC models

- the story is horrible, not bad, horrible

- dialogues, like the story

- animations are horrible, 1st person removes that problem to a certain extent but you'll still see other people/horses/etc.

Also maybe it's just be but you're pretty much always on the side of the console game.

- voice acting sucks and the cast is extremely limited, they had Patrick Stewart, but that isn't enough

DanielDust

They had Boromir too!

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- voice acting sucks and the cast is extremely limited, they had Patrick Stewart, but that isn't enough

Baranga

They had Boromir too!

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

Charles_Dickens

Crysis is 20 months old and just put these ones to shame.

Of course they will! Half-Life's graphics were amazing and revolutionary when it was released, and a few years later every game had those "amazing" graphics.

Stop it with the SW I don't really care, nobody really cares actually, they don't use common sense and they aren't like "oh it's not even worth it to argue" they abuse grammar, logic and forum rules there, that's what they are like on SW, mostly console gamers, but there are a few PC gamers that do that.

This is not that thread, but I'll humor your. I don't hate Oblivion because of the level balance, which is a fundamental flaw. You have more than enough monsters in Gothic to level up.

I hate Oblivion because:

- it has a huge pointless, empty world, too much copy-pasting without actually using their brains to fill it

- one of the most dead world ever, it's retarded to compare it to Gothic when it comes to this, the cities are dead, people are monotonous and are always the same

- voice acting sucks and the cast is extremely limited, they had Patrick Stewart, but that isn't enough

- limited number of NPC models

- the story is horrible, not bad, horrible

- dialogues, like the story

- animations are horrible, 1st person removes that problem to a certain extent but you'll still see other people/horses/etc.

Also maybe it's just be but you're pretty much always on the side of the console game.

DanielDust

Of course they will! Half-Life's graphics were amazing and revolutionary when it was released, and a few years later every game had those "amazing" graphics.

bangell99

In some departments as size of the levels (Far Cry) and lightning (Doom 3 and F.E.A.R. -this one a year later-) Half-Life 2 wasn't as amazing as some other games in the same timeframe. I easily can see as F.E.A.R. -a 2006 title- still beats a lost of current console shooters in terms of lightning, soft sahdows, particles, animations and A.I. F.E.A.R. 2 is technically a backstep, and the fact that it was developed towards consoles as the main target isn't a coincidence.

Crysis is a garbage game with overrated graphics.

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"]

What are you talking about - mainstream?

Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, Stalker Clear Sky, GTA 4, and even the game I'm playing now, Mirror's Edge, all look much more modern than Crysis. Crysis is two years old now, and it shows. You just need to know what to look for. The horrible textures in Crysis aren't any match at all for the clarity that I'm seeing in Mirror's Edge.

It's just because Crysis doesn't run well that people think its the bees knees. It's not. I wouldn't want ANY games looking like Crysis. I loathe those low res textures. And the NPCs are just downright goofy looking.

DanielDust

LOL, you think that Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis? Are you serious? Fallout 3 has some of the ugliest low res textures I've seen this gen. If you think Fallout 3 has better textures than Crysis you must be blind or playing Crysis on low/medium settings. Same goes for GTAIV which had very muddy textures. Mirror's Edge has nice textures but that's only because a large chunk of the color pallet has been removed from the game thanks to the art direction which makes it a lot easier on the hardware (certainly you've noticed by now that everything in the game a single, solid color). Far Cry 2 has a very similar engine to that of Crysis so I'm at a loss for how you think that game looks better.

See, I'm finding it diffcult to understand how you think that this.

I don't agree with him, but sorry to say this, you're wrong too.

First, GTA 4, I don't know if you played it maxed out on PC, but the game looks great and the textures are extremely sharp and detailed, when it begins to rain it looks even better it's superb.

Last, Fallout 3, I bet you know but there are mods for it and this mod changes a lot, imo the road textures look kinda awkward but the rest are just phenomenal, I'd say at 2048 the textures look better than any game released so far, even Mirror's Edge but it's pretty close thanks to that lighting engine.

But technically none compare to Crysis and frankly the texture mod is garbage, sure the guy spend a lot of time on it, but he just played around with parallax mapping and the burn tool from Photoshop or w/e.

I never though I'd agree with Charles on anything o_0.

Why are you talking about the Fallout 3 texture mods as if they're part of the actual game? Mods don't count, only the unaltered game. Any game can have high res textures forced into it by modders, it's not difficult. Hell, you could stuff 2048x2048 textures into Wolfenstein 3D if you really wanted to.

As for someone's comment about Crysis's textures being flat, they are only if you play with parralax occlusion mapping turned off. If your have the game set on "very high" (or mess around with the config files) then a lot of the textures are turned into 3D textures. For example, every pebble in a creek bed becomes 3D.

Crysis is a garbage game with overrated graphics.

Timberwolf5578