Thoughts on Harman Kardon SoundSticks III vs Klipsch pro-media. Gaming speakers

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#1 Posted by paulie69 (373 posts) -

Hi all,

I am looking at getting a new 2.1 or above speaker set-up for my PC (primarily for gaming with some music playback thrown in for good measure) and I stumbled across these on Amazon for a decent price. After lightly skimming a few reviews, they seem to be quite good speakers.

Now another speaker set which I seem to hearing quite alot about, especially on this forum are the Klipsch pro-media which everyone seems to praise.

My budget is quite flexible and I am not too fussed on 2.1 or 5.1 set-ups, as my PC is set up in a way in which a 5.1 system is essentially a wall of speakers.

It would be great to hear what you guys and girls have to say! For reference, my soundcard is a Creative Recon 3D

Thanks!

TL:DR What are some good gaming speakers that will deliver best bang for my buck.

#2 Posted by lykalagahit (3 posts) -
It would be great to hear what you guys and girls have to say! For reference, my soundcard is a Creative Recon 3D :)) love it
#3 Posted by 1che3zeman1 (347 posts) -
contrary to what people say on this board (the only board in which people seem to hate the brand for some reason), the Logitech z632 2.1 speakers are amazing! especially if you love dubstep. the bass will shake your body and rock the walls :p. I got them for 100 bucks
#4 Posted by NVIDIATI (7854 posts) -

the only board in which people seem to hate the brand for some reason1che3zeman1
Or any other reputable audio board... Logitech cannot even compare to a proper setup.

Anyways the better recommendation is to purchase separates:

Dayton DTA-1 Class T Amplifier + Dayton B652 Bookshelf speakers ($58)

300-650_s.jpg300-650_sii.jpg300-650_siv.jpg

Dayton 10inch Subwoofer SUB-1000 ($99)

300-628_s.jpg300-628_si.jpg300-628_sii.jpg

Speaker wire ($4)

109-166_s.jpg109-166_si.jpg

TOTAL: $161

The sound produced by this setup is on a completely different level than the Logitech, Klipsch or Harman systems. Using real speakers, amplifier and subwoofer will get you the best results.

#5 Posted by kraken2109 (13241 posts) -

[QUOTE="1che3zeman1"]the only board in which people seem to hate the brand for some reasonNVIDIATI

Or any other reputable audio board... Logitech cannot even compare to a proper setup.

Anyways the better recommendation is to purchase separates:

Dayton DTA-1 Class T Amplifier + Dayton B652 Bookshelf speakers ($58)

Dayton 10inch Subwoofer SUB-1000 ($99)

Speaker wire ($4)

TOTAL: $161

The sound produced by this setup is on a completely different level than the Logitech, Klipsch or Harman systems. Using real speakers, amplifier and subwoofer will get you the best results.

Isn't 15WPC a little low?

#6 Posted by NVIDIATI (7854 posts) -

Isn't 15WPC a little low?

kraken2109

Not at all, especially with those speakers.

#7 Posted by GalvatronType_R (1927 posts) -

Or do what I did. I bought the Klipsch Promedia 5.1 and quickly replaced the dinky satellite speakers with full range HT speakers (in my case, the Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350). Awesome sound quality and much better than the dinky stock Klipsch PM speakers.

Just ensure that you buy a set that has an outboard independent control unit; you're outta luck if you have a setup with the control unit built into one of the speakers.

#8 Posted by NVIDIATI (7854 posts) -

Or do what I did. I bought the Klipsch Promedia 5.1 and quickly replaced the dinky satellite speakers with full range HT speakers (in my case, the Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350). Awesome sound quality and much better than the dinky stock Klipsch PM speakers.

Just ensure that you buy a set that has an outboard independent control unit; you're outta luck if you have a setup with the control unit built into one of the speakers.

GalvatronType_R

This is a terrible idea. You would have been much better off purchasing all separates (5.1 receiver + 5 speakers and a sub). Fortunately the promedia 5.1 was discontinued, so others reading this won't have to share your mistake.

#9 Posted by Bozanimal (2483 posts) -
The DIY route suggested by NVIDIATI is the best value for your dollar, but requires some work on your part to hook everything up. The Klipsch Promedia 2.1 are an easy solution that includes what you need and sounds great (finally got to audition them recently). I actually used the HK speakers for awhile, and they're good. Not amazing, but good. I personally prefer the sound of the Klipsch, which uses a dedicated woofer and tweeter in a more traditional enclosure to the multiple full-range drivers used by the HK. Good luck, Boz
#10 Posted by Mozelleple112 (6701 posts) -

Best performance / value would be the DIY set up NVIDIATI posted, but for simplicity the Klipsch promedia 2.1 is a great choice also.

#11 Posted by NVIDIATI (7854 posts) -

The DIY route suggested by NVIDIATI is the best value for your dollar, but requires some work on your part to hook everything up. Bozanimal
I wouldn't really say there's much work to be done, just some simple wire hookups.

PC-->T-amp-->Subwoofer-->Speakers

PC to T-amp with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable.

T-amp to subwoofer high pass input with speaker cable.

Subwoofer high pass output to speakers with speaker cable.

#12 Posted by DJ_Headshot (6292 posts) -

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="1che3zeman1"]the only board in which people seem to hate the brand for some reasonkraken2109

Or any other reputable audio board... Logitech cannot even compare to a proper setup.

Anyways the better recommendation is to purchase separates:

Dayton DTA-1 Class T Amplifier + Dayton B652 Bookshelf speakers ($58)

Dayton 10inch Subwoofer SUB-1000 ($99)

Speaker wire ($4)

TOTAL: $161

The sound produced by this setup is on a completely different level than the Logitech, Klipsch or Harman systems. Using real speakers, amplifier and subwoofer will get you the best results.

Isn't 15WPC a little low?

Its plenty will get them to play very loud especially in nearfield use. Also it takes ten times the wattage to get double the perceived volume so shouldn't pay to much attention to wattage its not that important. You better off looking at speaker sensitivity if you want to know how easy it will be to get them to play loud at 88db/1m the dayton b652 would only need ten watts to play at 98db from 3.3 feet which is very loud and that's the distance most people using to them at a pc would be listening from if not closer.

#13 Posted by Yagnav (6107 posts) -

Bumped.

Curious about what the OP went with since I am at the same crossroads Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 or Soundsticks III. They both cost the same where I am so it's really a question of sound.

Not a bass junkie but I need these for music and gaming. Do not need an Amp or soundcard (already have those top of the line-ish models). All help appreciated.

#14 Posted by Innovazero2000 (3144 posts) -

Klipsch out of the two.

#15 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="1che3zeman1"]the only board in which people seem to hate the brand for some reasonNVIDIATI

Or any other reputable audio board... Logitech cannot even compare to a proper setup.

Anyways the better recommendation is to purchase separates:

Dayton DTA-1 Class T Amplifier + Dayton B652 Bookshelf speakers ($58)

300-650_s.jpg300-650_sii.jpg300-650_siv.jpg

Dayton 10inch Subwoofer SUB-1000 ($99)

300-628_s.jpg300-628_si.jpg300-628_sii.jpg

Speaker wire ($4)

109-166_s.jpg109-166_si.jpg

TOTAL: $161

The sound produced by this setup is on a completely different level than the Logitech, Klipsch or Harman systems. Using real speakers, amplifier and subwoofer will get you the best results.

I'm not saying that the setup you suggested won't sound great, but you don't need a subwoofer if you have "real" speakers.

#16 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

Klipsch Promedia 2.1 out of the options you listed. I have it, and it sounds fantastic for the price. I've always been a fan of the in-your-face Klipsch sound (used to have a set of KLF-10 towers), and the Promedia system has that quality. I once set up my PC speakers and sub in the media room (12 feet wide and 20 feet deep), with a satellite on either side of the TV at the corners of the room. The sub was in the middle. I listened to a variety of different types of music, and the little Promedia system filled the whole room. It literally sounded almost as full as the KG-3's that I had running off my Adcom amp.

#17 Posted by kraken2109 (13241 posts) -

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="1che3zeman1"]the only board in which people seem to hate the brand for some reasonhartsickdiscipl

Or any other reputable audio board... Logitech cannot even compare to a proper setup.

Anyways the better recommendation is to purchase separates:

Dayton DTA-1 Class T Amplifier + Dayton B652 Bookshelf speakers ($58)

300-650_s.jpg

Dayton 10inch Subwoofer SUB-1000 ($99)

300-628_si.jpg

Speaker wire ($4)

TOTAL: $161

The sound produced by this setup is on a completely different level than the Logitech, Klipsch or Harman systems. Using real speakers, amplifier and subwoofer will get you the best results.

I'm not saying that the setup you suggested won't sound great, but you don't need a subwoofer if you have "real" speakers.

While I would agree that's true for most music, most bookshelf speakers don't respond well below 60hz so a sub can help with films and games as well as certain music genres.

#18 Posted by DJ_Headshot (6292 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'm not saying that the setup you suggested won't sound great, but you don't need a subwoofer if you have "real" speakers.

kraken2109

While I would agree that's true for most music, most bookshelf speakers don't respond well below 60hz so a sub can help with films and games as well as certain music genres.

I disagree the majority of modern music has plenty of bass well below 60hz even if you only take into account music using only instruments the piano lowest note is 27.5hz a double bass lowest note is 41hz with 5 string and 31hz with a 6 string and that's similar for a bass guitar and a tuba can play down to 30hz and even lower. If you have speakers that are flat down to 30hz then I would be more inclined to agree that a sub is not needed for most music but speakers that can do that are going to be large and expensive and will need an expensive high powered amp. Its easier,more practical, and cheaper to reproduce low frequncies by using a sub alongside speakers not to mention 30hz isn't even the limit of our hearing which is closer to 20hz why not aim to have a system that can at least reproduce everything where capable of hearing?

#19 Posted by Innovazero2000 (3144 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Or any other reputable audio board... Logitech cannot even compare to a proper setup.

Anyways the better recommendation is to purchase separates:

Dayton DTA-1 Class T Amplifier + Dayton B652 Bookshelf speakers ($58)

300-650_s.jpg

Dayton 10inch Subwoofer SUB-1000 ($99)

300-628_si.jpg

Speaker wire ($4)

TOTAL: $161

The sound produced by this setup is on a completely different level than the Logitech, Klipsch or Harman systems. Using real speakers, amplifier and subwoofer will get you the best results.

kraken2109

I'm not saying that the setup you suggested won't sound great, but you don't need a subwoofer if you have "real" speakers.

While I would agree that's true for most music, most bookshelf speakers don't respond well below 60hz so a sub can help with films and games as well as certain music genres.

I think it was a suggestion based off the price range according to the link, and certainly I agree you won't find better if your willing to have to setup everything vs say the Klipsch 2.1's. I have some Polk TSI towers which are nice, esp. for music/imaging...but I'll be damned if a Sub isn't appreciated when a movie or game gets popped in.
#20 Posted by kraken2109 (13241 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'm not saying that the setup you suggested won't sound great, but you don't need a subwoofer if you have "real" speakers.

DJ_Headshot

While I would agree that's true for most music, most bookshelf speakers don't respond well below 60hz so a sub can help with films and games as well as certain music genres.

I disagree the majority of modern music has plenty of bass well below 60hz even if you only take into account music using only instruments the piano lowest note is 27.5hz a double bass lowest note is 41hz with 5 string and 31hz with a 6 string and that's similar for a bass guitar and a tuba can play down to 30hz and even lower. If you have speakers that are flat down to 30hz then I would be more inclined to agree that a sub is not needed for most music but speakers that can do that are going to be large and expensive and will need an expensive high powered amp. Its easier,more practical, and cheaper to reproduce low frequncies by using a sub alongside speakers not to mention 30hz isn't even the limit of our hearing which is closer to 20hz why not aim to have a system that can at least reproduce everything where capable of hearing?

Show me a speaker that will play flat to 20hz. For example, B&W Nautilous 800 ($16,000 for a pair, plus the need for a very powerful amp) will do 32hz-28khz (-3db)
#21 Posted by NVIDIATI (7854 posts) -

Show me a speaker that will play flat to 20hz. For example, B&W Nautilous 800 ($16,000 for a pair, plus the need for a very powerful amp) will do 32hz-28khz (-3db)kraken2109

Gershman Acoustics Black Swan (~30k) uses a Peerless driver to hit down to 18Hz. The fact is, there are plenty of high end speakers that can hit those low notes, but most of them are just using massive drivers in each tower.

blackswan_loudspeaker_3.jpg

#22 Posted by kraken2109 (13241 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]Show me a speaker that will play flat to 20hz. For example, B&W Nautilous 800 ($16,000 for a pair, plus the need for a very powerful amp) will do 32hz-28khz (-3db)NVIDIATI

Gershman Acoustics Black Swan (~30k) uses a Peerless driver to hit down to 18Hz. The fact is, there are plenty of high end speakers that can hit those low notes, but most of them are just using massive drivers in each tower.

blackswan_loudspeaker_3.jpg

The point I was making is that if someone wants sub 60hz they should get a sub. Those $30k speakers kinda help my point.
#23 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

Just get a set of AAD 2001's and a decent amp. Adcom GFA-555 or the like and you're set. Granted, you will be spending more than $150:P

#24 Posted by Mozelleple112 (6701 posts) -

[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

While I would agree that's true for most music, most bookshelf speakers don't respond well below 60hz so a sub can help with films and games as well as certain music genres.

kraken2109

I disagree the majority of modern music has plenty of bass well below 60hz even if you only take into account music using only instruments the piano lowest note is 27.5hz a double bass lowest note is 41hz with 5 string and 31hz with a 6 string and that's similar for a bass guitar and a tuba can play down to 30hz and even lower. If you have speakers that are flat down to 30hz then I would be more inclined to agree that a sub is not needed for most music but speakers that can do that are going to be large and expensive and will need an expensive high powered amp. Its easier,more practical, and cheaper to reproduce low frequncies by using a sub alongside speakers not to mention 30hz isn't even the limit of our hearing which is closer to 20hz why not aim to have a system that can at least reproduce everything where capable of hearing?

Show me a speaker that will play flat to 20hz. For example, B&W Nautilous 800 ($16,000 for a pair, plus the need for a very powerful amp) will do 32hz-28khz (-3db)

B1tch please! :P the best sound systems in the world like the Snell THX Reference go down to sub 1hzshapeimage_3.png

:P

Nah but seriously, most high end speakers produce more than enough bass to make sub woofers irrelevant for most people. Not me though.

#25 Posted by kraken2109 (13241 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

I disagree the majority of modern music has plenty of bass well below 60hz even if you only take into account music using only instruments the piano lowest note is 27.5hz a double bass lowest note is 41hz with 5 string and 31hz with a 6 string and that's similar for a bass guitar and a tuba can play down to 30hz and even lower. If you have speakers that are flat down to 30hz then I would be more inclined to agree that a sub is not needed for most music but speakers that can do that are going to be large and expensive and will need an expensive high powered amp. Its easier,more practical, and cheaper to reproduce low frequncies by using a sub alongside speakers not to mention 30hz isn't even the limit of our hearing which is closer to 20hz why not aim to have a system that can at least reproduce everything where capable of hearing?

Mozelleple112

Show me a speaker that will play flat to 20hz. For example, B&W Nautilous 800 ($16,000 for a pair, plus the need for a very powerful amp) will do 32hz-28khz (-3db)

B1tch please! :P the best sound systems in the world like the Snell THX Reference go down to sub 1hzshapeimage_3.png

:P

Nah but seriously, most high end speakers produce more than enough bass to make sub woofers irrelevant for most people. Not me though.

I have to say I don't feel the need for a sub, especially when i'd have to spend a good amount to not just ruin the overall quality. My front speakers are 13 litre volume with ~15cm drives and they provide enough for all but the most sub-bass heavy sources.
#26 Posted by Yagnav (6107 posts) -

Seems this one got derailed pretty quick. But to chip in I went with HK Soundsticks III over Klipsch. I found the sound to be much more cleaner and crisp on the soundsticks and +1 for the looks. Also after setting them up with my rig, I am most satisfied, convinced and at times even impressed with the Soundsticks III.

#27 Posted by mb1958 (1 posts) -
I had the klipsch 2.1 for about 8 years.I just got the harmon kardon soundsticks .Sound...Not even close...I'm sending them back and getting another set of the klipsch pro media...very disappointed in the soundsticks
#28 Posted by BLT1979 (1 posts) -

[QUOTE="1che3zeman1"]the only board in which people seem to hate the brand for some reasonNVIDIATI

Or any other reputable audio board... Logitech cannot even compare to a proper setup.

Anyways the better recommendation is to purchase separates:

Dayton DTA-1 Class T Amplifier + Dayton B652 Bookshelf speakers ($58)

Dayton 10inch Subwoofer SUB-1000 ($99)

Speaker wire ($4)

TOTAL: $161

The sound produced by this setup is on a completely different level than the Logitech, Klipsch or Harman systems. Using real speakers, amplifier and subwoofer will get you the best results.

All of this equipment arrived today...but I'm not sure how to connect all of it together and then connect it to the back of my Xonar Essence STX. What kind of connectors, converters, or cabling do I need?
#29 Posted by Wolfetan (7522 posts) -

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="1che3zeman1"]the only board in which people seem to hate the brand for some reasonhartsickdiscipl

Or any other reputable audio board... Logitech cannot even compare to a proper setup.

Anyways the better recommendation is to purchase separates:

Dayton DTA-1 Class T Amplifier + Dayton B652 Bookshelf speakers ($58)

300-650_s.jpg300-650_sii.jpg300-650_siv.jpg

Dayton 10inch Subwoofer SUB-1000 ($99)

300-628_s.jpg300-628_si.jpg300-628_sii.jpg

Speaker wire ($4)

109-166_s.jpg109-166_si.jpg

TOTAL: $161

The sound produced by this setup is on a completely different level than the Logitech, Klipsch or Harman systems. Using real speakers, amplifier and subwoofer will get you the best results.

I'm not saying that the setup you suggested won't sound great, but you don't need a subwoofer if you have "real" speakers.

Talk about getting dumber from a post.
#30 Posted by Wolfetan (7522 posts) -
[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] Show me a speaker that will play flat to 20hz. For example, B&W Nautilous 800 ($16,000 for a pair, plus the need for a very powerful amp) will do 32hz-28khz (-3db)kraken2109

B1tch please! :P the best sound systems in the world like the Snell THX Reference go down to sub 1hzshapeimage_3.png

:P

Nah but seriously, most high end speakers produce more than enough bass to make sub woofers irrelevant for most people. Not me though.

I have to say I don't feel the need for a sub, especially when i'd have to spend a good amount to not just ruin the overall quality. My front speakers are 13 litre volume with ~15cm drives and they provide enough for all but the most sub-bass heavy sources.

You guys gotta use headphones haha. I could join in in this discussion if you guys did:P
#31 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Or any other reputable audio board... Logitech cannot even compare to a proper setup.

Anyways the better recommendation is to purchase separates:

Dayton DTA-1 Class T Amplifier + Dayton B652 Bookshelf speakers ($58)

300-650_s.jpg300-650_sii.jpg300-650_siv.jpg

Dayton 10inch Subwoofer SUB-1000 ($99)

300-628_s.jpg300-628_si.jpg300-628_sii.jpg

Speaker wire ($4)

109-166_s.jpg109-166_si.jpg

TOTAL: $161

The sound produced by this setup is on a completely different level than the Logitech, Klipsch or Harman systems. Using real speakers, amplifier and subwoofer will get you the best results.

Wolfetan

I'm not saying that the setup you suggested won't sound great, but you don't need a subwoofer if you have "real" speakers.

Talk about getting dumber from a post.

 

I think you should visit my place and I'll show you what I mean.  

#32 Posted by Wolfetan (7522 posts) -

[QUOTE="Wolfetan"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I'm not saying that the setup you suggested won't sound great, but you don't need a subwoofer if you have "real" speakers.

hartsickdiscipl

Talk about getting dumber from a post.

 

I think you should visit my place and I'll show you what I mean.  

I take back what I said. It was an uneducated post. I'm not much of a speaker guy.. Actually, not at all. I'll come to your place for speakers, then you'll come to my place for headphones. Sennheiser HD650, Paradox by LFF, Heir Audio 4.Ai, Beyerdynamic DT880. And if you come at the right time, you could audition the Burson Soloist SL, LCD3, modified HE-6, and a Modified T50RP. Yes. I am into headphones. Kind of:P
#33 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="Wolfetan"] Talk about getting dumber from a post.Wolfetan

 

I think you should visit my place and I'll show you what I mean.  

I take back what I said. It was an uneducated post. I'm not much of a speaker guy.. Actually, not at all. I'll come to your place for speakers, then you'll come to my place for headphones. Sennheiser HD650, Paradox by LFF, Heir Audio 4.Ai, Beyerdynamic DT880. And if you come at the right time, you could audition the Burson Soloist SL, LCD3, modified HE-6, and a Modified T50RP. Yes. I am into headphones. Kind of:P

 

I'll take that trade.  I'm not much of a headphone guy.  

#34 Posted by Wolfetan (7522 posts) -

[QUOTE="Wolfetan"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

I think you should visit my place and I'll show you what I mean.  

hartsickdiscipl

I take back what I said. It was an uneducated post. I'm not much of a speaker guy.. Actually, not at all. I'll come to your place for speakers, then you'll come to my place for headphones. Sennheiser HD650, Paradox by LFF, Heir Audio 4.Ai, Beyerdynamic DT880. And if you come at the right time, you could audition the Burson Soloist SL, LCD3, modified HE-6, and a Modified T50RP. Yes. I am into headphones. Kind of:P

 

I'll take that trade.  I'm not much of a headphone guy.  

:P:D