stop the q6600 vs. e6850 threads

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#1 bumsoil
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i have seen many people trying to decide between the intelq6600 and the intel e6850.

the over simplified version...

e6850: 2 cores, 3 GHz each - 2 * 3 GHz = 6 GHz

q6600:4 cores, 2.4 GHz each - 4* 2.4 GHz = 9.6 GHz ( if you are willing to overclock this cpu will hit 3 GHz with out a problem - 4*3 GHz = 12 GHz)

people seem to think that all games only support single and dual core, this is NOT true many games support quad and a few support octo(8) core. i do admit that the e6850 will out perform the q6600 in dual core only app's, but only by a small margin.if you are one of these people who are trying to decide between these cpu's, get the q6600. think of it this way, would you rather a 2.4 GHz dual core or a 3 GHz single(i know, i know, i am just trying to simplify it).plus quad will future proof you much better.

EDIT: i cant get the cool face to go away, it is supposed to be a "if".

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#2 Indestructible2
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Neither since they're both WAAAAYYYYYY too expensive for me,but even if i had the money,i'd just get a E4400 and a decent OCing board and reach 3.6GHz,spending that kind of money for a CPU is IMO,stupid.
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#3 Mam00th
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Plz, for god sake do not multiply frequencies like you did
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#4 bumsoil
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Plz, for god sake do not multiply frequencies like you didMam00th

i was just trying to "over simplify" it for people that may not know allot.

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#5 Mam00th
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[QUOTE="Mam00th"]Plz, for god sake do not multiply frequencies like you didbumsoil

i was just trying to "over simplify" it for people that may not know allot.

lol it is ok, just promise me you are never gonna do it again

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#6 bumsoil
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[QUOTE="bumsoil"]

[QUOTE="Mam00th"]Plz, for god sake do not multiply frequencies like you didMam00th

i was just trying to "over simplify" it for people that may not know allot.

lol it is ok, just promise me you are never gonna do it again

"i promise"

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#7 PullTheTricker
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Tbh I myself regreted going for the Quad this far. Dual Core can be overclocked easier due to less heat and get even MORE perfomance out of it. I don't think my quad had any impact on perfomance compared to dual core in the Crysis demo.

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#8 LordEC911
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Little late on that...
Would rather stop the 8800GT threads.
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#9 Indestructible2
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Little late on that...
Would rather stop the 8800GT threads.
LordEC911
Especially ones asking about Crysis Maxed out,cause it AIN'T happening.
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#10 *Aneurysm
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But this is still not enough simple for me !! yea yea SRY. Just to resume :

cod2/HL2 : e6850 a little better than q6600, but like what 2-3 fps ?

cod4 : Same as above ?

Crysis, and the new games : Q6600 ALL THE WAY ?

THX AGAIN :)

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#11 bumsoil
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But this is still not enough simple for me !! yea yea SRY. Just to resume :

cod2/HL2 : e6850 a little better than q6600, but like what 2-3 fps ?

cod4 : Same as above ?

Crysis, and the new games : Q6600 ALL THE WAY ?

THX AGAIN :)

Aneurysm

what this really smart guy said

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#12 IAM-CA
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[QUOTE="Aneurysm"]

But this is still not enough simple for me !! yea yea SRY. Just to resume :

cod2/HL2 : e6850 a little better than q6600, but like what 2-3 fps ?

cod4 : Same as above ?

Crysis, and the new games : Q6600 ALL THE WAY ?

THX AGAIN :)

bumsoil

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Not so much. From the benchmarks that are showing up, the Crysis demo is limited by the GPU, not the CPU.

www.techspot.com/article/73-crysis-performance/page7.html

When benchmarking Crysis the demo appeared to generate very little CPU utilization. Using a Core 2 Duo E6700, the processor utilization would hover between 20-30% at times. Both cores did appear to be active though neither seemed to do a great deal, especially at the same time.

The processor utilization never really got above 45% which would indicate that the game is really only using one core. However, based on the CPU Scaling results it could also just mean that Crysis is not that processor intensive when you consider that a 1GHz drop in frequency only accounted for 2-4fps.

TechSpot

www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=698&p=8

There are a few things we would like to clarify based on what we have found with this single-player demo. Over the past few months there have been countless interviews with the people from Crytek about Crysis and 'Cervat Yerli' has made a few claims that we wanted to look into. First of all he claimed that upgrading to a quad-core processor would be essential and this had quite a few gamers madly chasing after Q6600 processors. From what we have seen based purely on this single-player game, is that quad-core processors will make little to no difference at all.

Cervat Yerli also claimed that Crysis is a very CPU bound game rather than GPU bound. This is interesting since we found the complete opposite, Crysis is very much GPU bound and any Core 2 Duo processor and probably even any Athlon64 X2 processor for that matter will handle Crysis very well. So at this stage we do not believe quad-core processors are a necessity and we also do not believe you will need to upgrade to the latest and greatest Core 2 processor.

LegionHardware

I still say the E6750 is a great bang for the buck processor and it can even handle Crysis without the need to overclock.

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#13 frassefask
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so whats the best choice? there is almost no difference in price here
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#14 domke13
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But this is still not enough simple for me !! yea yea SRY. Just to resume :

cod2/HL2 : e6850 a little better than q6600, but like what 2-3 fps ?

cod4 : Same as above ?

Crysis, and the new games : Q6600 ALL THE WAY ?:roll:

THX AGAIN :)

Aneurysm

So far Penryn Quad core gained 2 FPS in Crysis compared to Conroe E6850 dual core....

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#15 Infinite-Zr0
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Is the Penryn quad core gonna be a true quad core cpu? Or it is gonna be 2 dual cores slapped together?

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#16 Killfox
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Tbh I myself regreted going for the Quad this far. Dual Core can be overclocked easier due to less heat and get even MORE perfomance out of it. I don't think my quad had any impact on perfomance compared to dual core in the Crysis demo.

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Thats because the demo doesnt support quad core CPUs. Nor does it support SLI.