Steam and Canadians

Pretty soon steam will become rather expensive to use for Canadians. With the passing of UBB in Canada bandwidth costs could be anywhere between $1-$2.50 per gigabyte, making an average game (say 10-15gB) cost anywhere between $10-$37.50 for the download alone. Don't take this sitting down! find out how you can help here:http://www.antiubb.com/what-can-i-do/

Also sign the petition:http://openmedia.ca/meter

There is a huge discussion going on about this at:http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/

Sorry for what is essentially spam, I know I haven't posted in this forum in a couple of year (university life has kept me busy), but this is an issue I thought Canadian PC gamers may be interested in. Please let your friends know too. And posting this to the PS3 and Xbox 360 forums may be useful as this will likely affect Canadians there as well.

Thanks for caring!

Its garbage, they want people to use cable tv instead of watching everything on tv. Alot of people use the internet for news, tv shows,etc... and these cable comapnys are gettign greedy. We already give them enough money, I really hope that this gets shutdown at sometime because its way over the top.

Doubt the petition will work, but I sure hope it does..

Is it not just for services like Teksavvy? Will Bell or Rogers uses be affected?brandontwb

Bell Canada is one of hte main people behind this ):

Shaw also will be affected. I hear that some of the smaller companies wont do this, but thats not an option for people in smaller communities were its eitehr shaw or Bell.

I really hoep this gets overturned... we are not a poor country and yet we are rated like 27th/30th for internet prices and speed. Government needs to be stopped imo, its nto our fault that people are using the internet instead of there crap cable tv.

Stupid CRTC. This will kill a lot of small internet providers(teksavvy,acanac,etc.) and Netflix and suchs... :(MonsieurX

Netflix, Itunes,etc.... many have alot of invested in Canada now and this would pretty much cut them out of the canadian market.

Well thats incredibly annoying. Guess i'll be sticking to retail whenever possible. Or i'll smuggle my PC across the border and hole up in a Internet cafe

I am glad I dont live in Canada right now.Tauruslink

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]Is it not just for services like Teksavvy? Will Bell or Rogers uses be affected?kozzy1234

Bell Canada is one of hte main people behind this ):

Shaw also will be affected. I hear that some of the smaller companies wont do this, but thats not an option for people in smaller communities were its eitehr shaw or Bell.

I really hoep this gets overturned... we are not a poor country and yet we are rated like 27th/30th for internet prices and speed. Government needs to be stopped imo, its nto our fault that people are using the internet instead of there crap cable tv.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="brandontwb"]Is it not just for services like Teksavvy? Will Bell or Rogers uses be affected?brandontwb

Bell Canada is one of hte main people behind this ):

Shaw also will be affected. I hear that some of the smaller companies wont do this, but thats not an option for people in smaller communities were its eitehr shaw or Bell.

I really hoep this gets overturned... we are not a poor country and yet we are rated like 27th/30th for internet prices and speed. Government needs to be stopped imo, its nto our fault that people are using the internet instead of there crap cable tv.

Yes and no, Bell I believe has already had this implemented on their network. So their customers will not be affected in the sense that they were already being ripped off =P. But yes in the sense that Bell will have 25gig limit, plus about $1/gig overage charge. (more or less depending on if you buy insurance and how much over you are)

[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Bell Canada is one of hte main people behind this ):

Shaw also will be affected. I hear that some of the smaller companies wont do this, but thats not an option for people in smaller communities were its eitehr shaw or Bell.

I really hoep this gets overturned... we are not a poor country and yet we are rated like 27th/30th for internet prices and speed. Government needs to be stopped imo, its nto our fault that people are using the internet instead of there crap cable tv.

Fenrir_DarkWolf

Yes and no, Bell I believe has already had this implemented on their network. So their customers will not be affected in the sense that they were already being ripped off =P. But yes in the sense that Bell will have 25gig limit, plus about $1/gig overage charge. (more or less depending on if you buy insurance and how much over you are)

Is Telus affected by this? This is terrible. I hope it will be like ACTA and flop horribly.

Not sure what this is.. Am i affected? I have Videotron (Cable modem) with 40gig limit already.

Hmm. I'm with bell and I'm 99% sure we are on an unlimited connection that is no longer offered. Speed kinda sucks (7mbps) but hey it's unmetered :D Don't think this will have any affect on me, but I'm still very disgruntled over the ridiculous bandwidth caps these companies are enforcing. I'd very much like to upgrade my connection speed, but no way am I signing on with anything that has a bandwidth cap. It's bad enough they throttle torrents....

I always had a cap on my Bell line at 60GB. When I download more, I have to pay per GB over. I honestly never had a problem with it, I went over the cap a few times, but that's during something like Steam holiday sales. If you also use your connection for watching online movies or shows, then yeah I can see it being a problem. I realize that some people have theirs capped at 20 or even 15GB. That sucks. Petition signed.

Sucks for the people in the north, i hope the US doesn't get a cap.

Corporate greed, ever growing and consuming... What about after the collapse of the global monetary market, Are they still gonna worship the dollar as divine? (or realize that money has become truly irrelevant)?

How about the passion these fools have to make profit, be put to something worth while, like a sustainable society for the entire planet.. Seriously the only benefit of this (LAW) is to make you not be able to stream content on the internet. (so you have to pay for it elsewhere) So you have to buy cable tv, or satellite, (not to mention a final move on the retail market for games as well as movies) this is a way of regulating, and hindering the biggest communications device to reach billions of people (the internet).... (it must be protected, so things like this LAW, need to be removed period)

Limit does really suck. Just recently it went from 30 to 40gig limit for me which is insane just normal internet use is like a gig a day. I pay 40-50 bucks for a game and have to wait till my account resets to download it.

Its lack of competition. Here in Montreal its Bell for dlsl or Videotron for cable.

The caps that are already in place are just ridiculous. My family pays $50 for a 60GB cap. I hit it every month because apparently with everything we do in the house, we use 2GB of that cap per day just doing simple tasks/gaming. I'll be pitching in more to get a higher cap of 125GB. That should be good... but god damn this paying by the gb crap better not go through...

Signed.

+1 for providing a link to Reddit!

Bell is a terrible company with terrible service. They can go pound salt. Worst customer service ever.

However, because we have a contract with Rogers, they cannot change the fees until the contract is up. UBB or not, they will be breaking the contract. They would have to either void it (at which point we just switch elsewhere) or honor it.

Who here remembers City Fido? Unlimited service for a tiny price. That was shut down years ago and people STILL have them. Why? Because they were contracts that people kept re-newing and Fido has no choice but to continue to support it. Impositivethis will work in a similar matter.

Bell is a terrible company with terrible service. They can go pound salt. Worst customer service ever.

However, because we have a contract with Rogers, they cannot change the fees until the contract is up. UBB or not, they will be breaking the contract. They would have to either void it (at which point we just switch elsewhere) or honor it.

Who here remembers City Fido? Unlimited service for a tiny price. That was shut down years ago and people STILL have them. Why? Because they were contracts that people kept re-newing and Fido has no choice but to continue to support it. Impositivethis will work in a similar matter.

TruedUp

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Bell is a terrible company with terrible service. They can go pound salt. Worst customer service ever.

However, because we have a contract with Rogers, they cannot change the fees until the contract is up. UBB or not, they will be breaking the contract. They would have to either void it (at which point we just switch elsewhere) or honor it.

Who here remembers City Fido? Unlimited service for a tiny price. That was shut down years ago and people STILL have them. Why? Because they were contracts that people kept re-newing and Fido has no choice but to continue to support it. Impositivethis will work in a similar matter.

brandontwb

Best of luck fighting this, the US is probably next.

From what I've been reading, this affects only DSL? I may just switch to Teksavvy cable, which now that I look at it is almost the same price with better speeds :) They only just said it was available in my area.. it never was when I checked before.

[QUOTE="TruedUp"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]Bell seemed fine. They also have lower prices with higher speeds and caps.brandontwb

So in addition to Steam, did every single MMO player in Canada just get screwed? :?ChiliDragon

So to update the Canadian government stepped in and overturned the CRTC's decision. I don't agree with most of what the Conservatives do, but bravo to them on this one.TheCrazed420

Wait, I'm sure they will come back with something else to bite our asses. When something doesn't work, they just use something else to suck the cash up from our pockets. It's been like that since the dawn of time.

So to update the Canadian government stepped in and overturned the CRTC's decision. I don't agree with most of what the Conservatives do, but bravo to them on this one.TheCrazed420

I'm glad they did, I'm not exactly a heavy downloader, but a 25GB cap is rather awful.

Here's a link.

So to update the Canadian government stepped in and overturned the CRTC's decision. I don't agree with most of what the Conservatives do, but bravo to them on this one.TheCrazed420