STALKER is going to run horrible. read this

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#1 ncderek
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this is just funny. the game doesnt look anywhere near good enough for what the makers said:

There's also the question of how the game will perform on a technical level. We tried running our preview build on high-end machine with a dual-core CPU and GeForce 8800, and would routinely take 5 minutes to load a level before unceremoniously crashing. We eventually ended up running the game at a low-res 800x600 setting on a older XPS Dell 500, getting maybe 20 frames a second and crashing every 15 minutes or so (which kept us from progressing too far into the game).
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#2 frost_mourne13
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forgive me if im wrong but i think this has been discussed in the stalker game forums, and the game hasnt gone gold yet. Optimization is the last step of making a game
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#3 zero9167
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forgive me if im wrong but i think this has been discussed in the stalker game forums, and the game hasnt gone gold yet. Optimization is the last step of making a gamefrost_mourne13
exactly.
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#5 frost_mourne13
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true dat. oblivion wit guns and radiation. woohoo
im not being sarcastic either
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#6 kpsting
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[QUOTE="ncderek"]this is just funny. the game doesnt look anywhere near good enough for what the makers said:

There's also the question of how the game will perform on a technical level. We tried running our preview build on high-end machine with a dual-core CPU and GeForce 8800, and would routinely take 5 minutes to load a level before unceremoniously crashing. We eventually ended up running the game at a low-res 800x600 setting on a older XPS Dell 500, getting maybe 20 frames a second and crashing every 15 minutes or so (which kept us from progressing too far into the game).



how much RAM did they have?
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#7 frost_mourne13
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guys, go here to talk about stalker...you will probably find answers to your questions there.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/stalker/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-33425112&pid=540331
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#8 ncderek
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didnt say how much ram,
 and sorry i clicked on new thread before looking if there was a stalker sticky
[QUOTE="kpsting"][QUOTE="ncderek"]this is just funny. the game doesnt look anywhere near good enough for what the makers said:

There's also the question of how the game will perform on a technical level. We tried running our preview build on high-end machine with a dual-core CPU and GeForce 8800, and would routinely take 5 minutes to load a level before unceremoniously crashing. We eventually ended up running the game at a low-res 800x600 setting on a older XPS Dell 500, getting maybe 20 frames a second and crashing every 15 minutes or so (which kept us from progressing too far into the game).



how much RAM did they have?

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#9 AlbertE-
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Link?  I highly, highly doubt the developers would talk about how often their game crashes when the title is so close to release.

False unless link given.
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#10 Einhanderkiller
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[QUOTE="frost_mourne13"]forgive me if im wrong but i think this has been discussed in the stalker game forums, and the game hasnt gone gold yet. Optimization is the last step of making a gamezero9167
exactly.

But it should be done throughout the development cycle. A lot of junior programmers, from what I've read, misunderstand a quote that a legendary game programmer said: "Premature optimization is the root of all evil." That quote was taken out of context and sounds as if optimization at the end of the game development process is the smart thing to do, but it isn't.
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#11 frost_mourne13
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well, of course, thats common sense, you dont type a essay, then save it when you start.....you periodically save it. i dont think that the stalker devs have forsaken the optimization, and besides, theres always a patch =D...lol jk
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#12 ncderek
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this was a gamespy preview, i guess people from gamespy played it. find the link there
Link? I highly, highly doubt the developers would talk about how often their game crashes when the title is so close to release.

False unless link given.
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#13 BubbaCheese
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First off, whoever thinks STALKER is not going to be bad and anyone who thinks so should go jump off the nearest bridge, second they were talking about a beta. I've played the Multiplayer Beta (biuld 2215) and it never crashed once! And it looked great even in DX8! Game websites are getting bored because they can't whine about it being delayed anymore... but Gamespot ain't whinin'!

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#14 BubbaCheese
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First off, whoever thinks STALKER is going to be bad and anyone who thinks so should go jump off the nearest bridge, second they were talking about a beta. I've played the Multiplayer Beta (biuld 2215) and it never crashed once! And it looked great even in DX8! Game websites are getting bored because they can't whine about it being delayed anymore... but Gamespot ain't whinin'!

this is the corrected version of what i said, sorry it 3 am mates...8)

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#15 frost_mourne13
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nice, i didnt even catch it until you corrected it
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#16 BubbaCheese
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yeeeah....
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#17 skyyfox1
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i have also tried the early version and let me tell you, you will get high framerates, all the great effects, plus zombies and mutants!  and did i mention the anomalie?  this is an intersting part of the game where strange things are happening around the zone.  if you walk into one, you will get swept up into the air and obliterated!  the game runs very well on a old hardware.. 130-150 fps with a geforce 7800.  so expect an awesome game from GSC Gaming World!  they put alot of hard work into this game and deserve credit for a very well made game.
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#18 armenti8
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i'm just happy we're getting another FPS.

i'm getting sick of all these damn RTS games.

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#19 BubbaCheese
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Amen to Skyfoxx and amenti! these guys know whats up... it's all about STALKER! no more friggin RTS's!!!!
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#20 Myeyesquinty
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I highly doubt STALKER will end up being that bad. It's like a mix of FEAR and GOW, so they programmers will want to make it good because my friends have high hopes for the game. Now if only Spore would come out -.-
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#21 Jack_Summersby
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i'm just happy we're getting another FPS.

i'm getting sick of all these damn RTS games.

armenti8


Amen, brother.

MORE FPS!
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#22 gam3r3OOO
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[QUOTE="ncderek"]this is just funny. the game doesnt look anywhere near good enough for what the makers said:

There's also the question of how the game will perform on a technical level. We tried running our preview build on high-end machine with a dual-core CPU and GeForce 8800, and would routinely take 5 minutes to load a level before unceremoniously crashing. We eventually ended up running the game at a low-res 800x600 setting on a older XPS Dell 500, getting maybe 20 frames a second and crashing every 15 minutes or so (which kept us from progressing too far into the game).

Either the game isn't finished yet, its poorly made or your just trying to incite a riot.
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#23 mrbojangles25
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Shouldnt be any worse than Gothic 3, and that game is acceptable depending on how much enjoyment you get out of the gameplay.

But who knows, the game isnt even out yet!

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#24 deactivated-5bf8c1fbe8a0f
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I'm not saying the game is going to be great or even revolutionary, but I'm sure it's going to be fun as hell to play. There's no telling how many videos I've watched of in game footage (seemed to be running well in all of it). I'm just glad it's finally coming out, only $40 too!
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#25 SuperBeast
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Extremely unprofessional on GameSpys part. Even though they clarify that it's not a final build, comments like that do hurt sales at launch...
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#26 speed1
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Hence them being referred to as gayspy..
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#27 DrDoomed
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If the apparant A.i programming skils are there like other previews have claimed the proggers should have enough skill to accomplish the game actually "working"
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#28 indzman
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STALKER is not going to be horrible ... IMO.

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#29 indzman
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[QUOTE="armenti8"]

i'm just happy we're getting another FPS.

i'm getting sick of all these damn RTS games.

Jack_Summersby



Amen, brother.

MORE FPS!

YAY.:D

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#30 ncderek
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true

[QUOTE="armenti8"]

i'm just happy we're getting another FPS.

i'm getting sick of all these damn RTS games.

Jack_Summersby


Amen, brother.

MORE FPS!

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#31 deactivated-5bf8c1fbe8a0f
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It sucks to say but there haven't been any really good FPS's in a few years. FEAR and BF2142 were decent, but still just nothing special (with acception to the AI in Fear, which was badass). Quake 4 and Prey were crap. HL episode 2 will be pretty good, but mainly due to the portals side game. So I think everyone is ready for a fresh FPS to bring everyone out of this funk they are apparently in. Until then I'm stuck playing all of the Battlefields to tie me over.
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#32 Jagg3d
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wow, that is terrible afte that long of dev
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#33 dnuggs40
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I am really getting tired of PC games being released with major bugs and craptastic performance. We have seen a HUGE influx of games being released in piss poor condition lately. The last 3 games I have purchased ALL were released in abysmall state, with huge bugs and terrible performance. Neverwinter Nights 2 Titan Quest (or lovingly know as 'Titan Crash') Dark Messiah This is a very sad trend we are seeing. I don't know who is responsible (Developers? Publishers? Hardware?), all I know is that I really believe this trend is hurting the industry terribly. When the consumer starts loosing confidence in the products they buy, the result is surely reduced sales. I hope they polish this game before release, they certainly have had enough time to do so...
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]I am really getting tired of PC games being released with major bugs and craptastic performance. We have seen a HUGE influx of games being released in piss poor condition lately. The last 3 games I have purchased ALL were released in abysmall state, with huge bugs and terrible performance. Neverwinter Nights 2 Titan Quest (or lovingly know as 'Titan Crash') Dark Messiah This is a very sad trend we are seeing. I don't know who is responsible (Developers? Publishers? Hardware?), all I know is that I really believe this trend is hurting the industry terribly. When the consumer starts loosing confidence in the products they buy, the result is surely reduced sales. I hope they polish this game before release, they certainly have had enough time to do so...



This game was designed for Dx8. I have no doubt the Dx8 version is going to run smoothly, but they haven't had a lot of time to work with Dx9.

 I do agree with you that games need to stop being so buggy and badly optimized. The thing is people are still buying those games. Betafield2142, NWN2 etc etc are still being bought. If more people stop acting like sheep and buy a title cause of it's name. This would stop.
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#35 zeus_gb
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I think i'll wait for my review of the game before I decide how good it really is and how it good or bad it performs on my hardware.
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#36 acsguitar
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Good thing its not released yet. This is like complaining that your 5 year old child doesn't read at a college students level
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#37 dnuggs40
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Good thing its not released yet. This is like complaining that your 5 year old child doesn't read at a college students levelacsguitar
lol it is set for a march release...thats not alot of time. It's more like complaining your High School Senior is having trouble with the SAT's.
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#38 acsguitar
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[QUOTE="acsguitar"]Good thing its not released yet. This is like complaining that your 5 year old child doesn't read at a college students leveldnuggs40
lol it is set for a march release...thats not alot of time. It's more like complaining your High School Senior is having trouble with the SAT's.

Ahh thats a better one. It can't run as poorly as say R6: Vegas :)
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#39 BubbaCheese
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College level babies? SAT's WTF is this about?? STALKER right?
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#40 DarKre
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So you pull a paragraph out of nowhere with no link or anything credible? Do you honestly believe a game thats been in development that long will stil lbe unoptimized?
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#41 NearTheEnd
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I have a bad feeling about this game. I REALLY hope it's good, because we need some good, original FPS, but I can't see it being anywhere near the quality we hope for.
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#42 mrbojangles25
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College level babies? SAT's WTF is this about?? STALKER right?BubbaCheese

lol SATs

Its, ummm....a sexually transmited disease.  Something American high school students get during their junior and senior year.

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#43 Jack_Summersby
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It sucks to say but there haven't been any really good FPS's in a few years. FEAR and BF2142 were decent, but still just nothing special (with acception to the AI in Fear, which was badass). Quake 4 and Prey were crap. HL episode 2 will be pretty good, but mainly due to the portals side game. So I think everyone is ready for a fresh FPS to bring everyone out of this funk they are apparently in. Until then I'm stuck playing all of the Battlefields to tie me over.sixty7velle


I would suggest trying Chronicles of Riddick.  It's a great FPS game with five-star presentation.  It can be slow at times during the beginning, but it picks up. 

You're spot on about Prey - what a waste of money.

I still play Far Cry and Max Payne 2 (I know, it's not FPS, but TPS can be pretty sweet too).

I hope STALKER and Crysis meet expectations.
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#44 Qixote
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forgive me if im wrong but i think this has been discussed in the stalker game forums, and the game hasnt gone gold yet. Optimization is the last step of making a gamefrost_mourne13
But the game is now scheduled to be released next month. If it's not optimized yet, it will never be. Especially after being in development for 6 years.


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#45 Crucifier
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this is just funny. the game doesnt look anywhere near good enough for what the makers said:

There's also the question of how the game will perform on a technical level. We tried running our preview build on high-end machine with a dual-core CPU and GeForce 8800, and would routinely take 5 minutes to load a level before unceremoniously crashing. We eventually ended up running the game at a low-res 800x600 setting on a older XPS Dell 500, getting maybe 20 frames a second and crashing every 15 minutes or so (which kept us from progressing too far into the game). ncderek
there is going to be a fileplanet beta later this month you know.  regardless, i will get the game.  it will patch over time if it still has bugs at release
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#46 1bladerunner1
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I think Stalker is an amazing game, but it will be soooooooooo laggy because the world is too big and the system to replace enemies (if you kill too much in one area the game will send others from another area to make the game more difficult for the player) is just too complicated  for normal pc`s (it needs a lot of performance) and thats the reason why you`ll need a very very good pc with a lot of performance to play Stalker without any laggs (but I think its incredible to play Stalker without any laggs).

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#47 NegativeBalance
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"(if you kill too much in one area the game will send others from another area to make the game more difficult for the player) is just too complicated for normal pc`s" Wow thanks for that random bit of made up information. The game seemlessly loads in the same way that oblivion does. You are not actually putting all the actors in the whole world into ram at any one time. There are a finite number of actors loaded at any one time. Stalker could run great on almost any system greater than a geforce 4 in dx 8 mode. Its really a question of the developers know how rather then the actual rendering mechanism of the game.
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[QUOTE="ncderek"]this is just funny. the game doesnt look anywhere near good enough for what the makers said:

There's also the question of how the game will perform on a technical level. We tried running our preview build on high-end machine with a dual-core CPU and GeForce 8800, and would routinely take 5 minutes to load a level before unceremoniously crashing. We eventually ended up running the game at a low-res 800x600 setting on a older XPS Dell 500, getting maybe 20 frames a second and crashing every 15 minutes or so (which kept us from progressing too far into the game).

Was ncderek right?
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#49 acsguitar
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Riddick is 100 times better in everyway then this sorry piece of poo
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#50 Jack_Summersby
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Riddick is 100 times better in everyway then this sorry piece of pooacsguitar

 I believed you until I read your review .  You rated STALKER a 7.0 / 10.0, which is defined as (get ready for it)...

 

 

 

 

Good.

 

Yet you've been posting all over the boards saying the game is terrible.  Which is it?Â