Salt + HDD =18TB?

So apparently some researchers have found a way to drastically increase the storage capacity of mechanical hard drives. If true we can expect HDD's to stay around even longer and be used along side SSD's for years to come. Data centers may also reconsider an eventual switch to SSD.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/10/researchers-increase-hard-drive-density-sixfold-with-salt.ars?comments=1#comments-bar

Still can't fill my 320gb hdd :(MonsieurX

I am currently using 599GB of my 1.5TB harddrive.

Give me dese HDs naow. Then I can abuse "unlimited" cloud storage even moar.

Didn't WD recently get 3TB/inch^2? That could give you about 30tb per platter.markop2003

Dunno. Do you have a link?

Either way 18TB is stupidly high :lol:

[QUOTE="markop2003"]Didn't WD recently get 3TB/inch^2? That could give you about 30tb per platter.Tezcatlipoca666

Dunno. Do you have a link?

Either way 18TB is stupidly high :lol:

My HDD on my desktop is like 80GB :lol:

I do have like 70GB used though...

Good news for me because I can make a cheap HDD upgrade soon I guess? C:

My HDD on my desktop is like 80GB :lol:

I do have like 70GB used though...

Good news for me because I can make a cheap HDD upgrade soon I guess? C:

IcyToasters

Well a 500GB HDD is only about $40 now. I honestly do not know how you can get by with only 80GB :P

[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

My HDD on my desktop is like 80GB :lol:

I do have like 70GB used though...

Good news for me because I can make a cheap HDD upgrade soon I guess? C:

Tezcatlipoca666

Well a 500GB HDD is only about $40 now. I honestly do not know how you can get by with only 80GB :P

[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

My HDD on my desktop is like 80GB :lol:

I do have like 70GB used though...

Good news for me because I can make a cheap HDD upgrade soon I guess? C:

Elann2008

Well a 500GB HDD is only about $40 now. I honestly do not know how you can get by with only 80GB :P

I really hope we convert over to SSDs soon. HDDs are too prone to failure, easy to damage, very slow, generate lots of heat and noise, and pose enormous privacy risks. SSDs have none of these drawbacks. As soon as 500GB SSDs come out at an affordable price I'm ditching HDDs altogether.gameguy6700

Well, all hardware, SSD's included, are prone to failure. I have several old hard drives that are still working fine. Desktop = 6 years and old laptop = 4 years. HDD's with data density of 18TB wouldn't be slow (although still not close to SSD performance). HDD's produce little heat in comparison to most of the other hardware in your PC so I don't really see how that is an issue. I think that most people will transition to having an SSD and an HDD. SSD for OS and applications and HDD for files, especially media like movies, music, photos.

Btw what is the privacy risk? Are you referring to the fact that data can be recovered if you do not wipe the drive?

I really hope we convert over to SSDs soon. HDDs are too prone to failure, easy to damage, very slow, generate lots of heat and noise, and pose enormous privacy risks. SSDs have none of these drawbacks. As soon as 500GB SSDs come out at an affordable price I'm ditching HDDs altogether.gameguy6700

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]I really hope we convert over to SSDs soon. HDDs are too prone to failure, easy to damage, very slow, generate lots of heat and noise, and pose enormous privacy risks. SSDs have none of these drawbacks. As soon as 500GB SSDs come out at an affordable price I'm ditching HDDs altogether.Tezcatlipoca666

Well, all hardware, SSD's included, are prone to failure. I have several old hard drives that are still working fine. Desktop = 6 years and old laptop = 4 years. HDD's with data density of 18TB wouldn't be slow (although still not close to SSD performance). HDD's produce little heat in comparison to most of the other hardware in your PC so I don't really see how that is an issue. I think that most people will transition to having an SSD and an HDD. SSD for OS and applications and HDD for files, especially media like movies, music, photos.

Btw what is the privacy risk? Are you referring to the fact that data can be recovered if you do not wipe the drive?

[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

Well a 500GB HDD is only about $40 now. I honestly do not know how you can get by with only 80GB :P

Elann2008

Well, I don't have too many games and don't keep them all installed, I buy all my music on CDs, and don't have any movies on my computer.

But I do run close to 80GB a lot and would like to not have to worry about it. :P

[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]I really hope we convert over to SSDs soon. HDDs are too prone to failure, easy to damage, very slow, generate lots of heat and noise, and pose enormous privacy risks. SSDs have none of these drawbacks. As soon as 500GB SSDs come out at an affordable price I'm ditching HDDs altogether.gameguy6700

Well, all hardware, SSD's included, are prone to failure. I have several old hard drives that are still working fine. Desktop = 6 years and old laptop = 4 years. HDD's with data density of 18TB wouldn't be slow (although still not close to SSD performance). HDD's produce little heat in comparison to most of the other hardware in your PC so I don't really see how that is an issue. I think that most people will transition to having an SSD and an HDD. SSD for OS and applications and HDD for files, especially media like movies, music, photos.

Btw what is the privacy risk? Are you referring to the fact that data can be recovered if you do not wipe the drive?

My HDD on my desktop is like 80GB :lol:

I do have like 70GB used though...

Good news for me because I can make a cheap HDD upgrade soon I guess? C:

IcyToasters

I think I had an 80 gig drive in 2001?

How big is windows? That's gotta be at least 25% of your space?

Nuu, no moar HDD, no moarz! Lol, I dont need the space, I need the speed! Whats the point having all the TBs in the world if its going to take a century to move the files to another hdd/computer. I suppose theres raid, but just when about warming up to ssd.

Nuu, no moar HDD, no moarz! Lol, I dont need the space, I need the speed! Whats the point having all the TBs in the world if its going to take a century to move the files to another hdd/computer. I suppose theres raid, but just when about warming up to ssd.

Bikouchu35

My HDD on my desktop is like 80GB :lol:

I do have like 70GB used though...

Good news for me because I can make a cheap HDD upgrade soon I guess? C:

IcyToasters

[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

My HDD on my desktop is like 80GB :lol:

I do have like 70GB used though...

Good news for me because I can make a cheap HDD upgrade soon I guess? C:

gameguy6700

links to an 80GB thumbdrive plz

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"] [QUOTE="gameguy6700"] How do you live with an 80GB HDD? I mean, you realize that there are thumbdrives out there bigger than your HDD, right? And that a single double layered blu-ray disc is almost as big as your HDD? HDDs are already dirt cheap too. My 1TB drive costs $60, and if you don't need that much space you can get a 500GB drive for like $45. Unfortunately you can't really go lower than that these days since the only drives smaller than that tend to be extremely expensive industrial solutions unfit for use in a PC.gameguy6700

lol I misread your post, I don't know why I thought you said there were 80GB thumdrives, but yeah, I have a 16GB drive(cost like 20 bucks or whatever), which is gettting pretty close to that guys harddrive size.

[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="markop2003"]Didn't WD recently get 3TB/inch^2? That could give you about 30tb per platter.JigglyWiggly_

Dunno. Do you have a link?

Either way 18TB is stupidly high :lol:

wait wait wait what drives are those HDD? i just got one WD Black 1TB less than a month and i got a smart error, and befre that i got 3 WD Black 650GB drives in April. im scared now becuase 2 of the drive are stripped together. :?

A combo of WD blacks and blues.JigglyWiggly_

I think by 2020 HDDs will be about as common as tape drives... What good is all the storage in the world if it's slow and unreliable? I've went through over 10TB of HDDs and these days I don't feel comfortable unless I have a backup of the backup.istuffedsunny

Tapes are still used quite extensively for backups...

I think by 2020 HDDs will be about as common as tape drives... What good is all the storage in the world if it's slow and unreliable? I've went through over 10TB of HDDs and these days I don't feel comfortable unless I have a backup of the backup.istuffedsunny

[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]I think by 2020 HDDs will be about as common as tape drives... What good is all the storage in the world if it's slow and unreliable? I've went through over 10TB of HDDs and these days I don't feel comfortable unless I have a backup of the backup.Tezcatlipoca666

Tapes are still used quite extensively for backups...

^ This

Tapes are as common as they used to be.

[QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]I think by 2020 HDDs will be about as common as tape drives... What good is all the storage in the world if it's slow and unreliable? I've went through over 10TB of HDDs and these days I don't feel comfortable unless I have a backup of the backup.JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

Well, all hardware, SSD's included, are prone to failure. I have several old hard drives that are still working fine. Desktop = 6 years and old laptop = 4 years. HDD's with data density of 18TB wouldn't be slow (although still not close to SSD performance). HDD's produce little heat in comparison to most of the other hardware in your PC so I don't really see how that is an issue. I think that most people will transition to having an SSD and an HDD. SSD for OS and applications and HDD for files, especially media like movies, music, photos.

Btw what is the privacy risk? Are you referring to the fact that data can be recovered if you do not wipe the drive?

kraken2109

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="istuffedsunny"]I think by 2020 HDDs will be about as common as tape drives... What good is all the storage in the world if it's slow and unreliable? I've went through over 10TB of HDDs and these days I don't feel comfortable unless I have a backup of the backup.kraken2109

128GB FLASHDRIVES??!

DO WANT.

Wow, I only have a 16 right now. I mean that's great and all but imagine telling people when they ask, "Hey how much space do you have on your flashdrive?"

"Well like 110Gb free at the moment." "Ohooho. I don't know it just seems awesome but an utter waste of $200+ as well. At least for me :P

That didnt work for me wth?? Whats the right way of doing it?

[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] That's what abusing unlimited cloud storage is for.JigglyWiggly_

[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"] While it's true that every component can fail, HDDs are probably the most failure-prone components in a computer (except for fans) thanks to the fact that they have moving parts and rely on a very fragile mechanism to read data. While it's true that HDDs don't produce anywhere near the same amount of heat as a GPU or CPU, they still do produce heat and in laptops it is actually pretty noticeable (my P7811FX gets pretty hot where I put my wrists since that's where the HDDs are). The privacy risk is that data is very hard to erase on an HDD unless you do multiple passes. SSDs are better because with TRIM enabled data is immediately wiped off the drive the instant it's deleted. Completely irrecoverable, no need to wipe. While what JigglyWiggly said is true about SSDs and Truecrypt not getting along, that's only if you're using a hidden OS/partition. A normal full disk encryption setup is still just as secure as on an HDD. Also, even if you do use the hidden partition feature on an SSD the only reason it's not as safe is because an attacker could use wear leveling to figure out if there's a hidden partition or not. Thing is, that's really hard and expensive to do, and unless you're trying to hide data from intelligence agencies it's not really worth worrying over.JigglyWiggly_

I guess it's the intake fan blowing right on them.

I still think the average user would benefit more from the increased speed of SSD's, not so much higher capacity. Once SSD's become more affordable, that is...

I still think the average user would benefit more from the increased speed of SSD's, not so much higher capacity. Once SSD's become more affordable, that is...

Baselerd

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] Some of us don't want to leave our PCs on and ruin our internet connections for like 3 months straight.kraken2109