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Nvidia Reveals Titan X, the "World's Most Advanced GPU"

New graphics card announced today at the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco.

by on March 4, 2015

Today during a Game Developers Conference presentation in San Francisco, Nvidia officially announced Titan X, what it calls the "world's most advanced GPU."

Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang made a surprise appearance at the Unreal Engine panel today to officially announce the GPU. The card has 12 GB of RAM and 8 billion transistors.

Pricing information was not announced. Further details about the GPU will be shared at the upcoming GTC event, which will be held March 17-20.

GameSpot will have more on Titan X as it becomes available.

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#2  Edited By BassMan
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It's sexy, but we are all waiting on the final specs and benchmarks.

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Imagine how much that'll cost!

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#4  Edited By Truth_Hurts_U
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Finally a real upgrade! I just hope the rumors of $1,300+ are not true. Buying a custom one as soon as possible. :)

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I'm already having a great experience with GTX Titan can't wait to get this one now :D

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@Truth_Hurts_U said:

Finally a real upgrade! I just hope the rumors of $1,300+ are not true. Buying a custom one as soon as possible. :)

Titan Z was $3000 when it came out, I am assuming this Titan X will be the same.

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@insane_metalist said:

@Truth_Hurts_U said:

Finally a real upgrade! I just hope the rumors of $1,300+ are not true. Buying a custom one as soon as possible. :)

Titan Z was $3000 when it came out, I am assuming this Titan X will be the same.

Titan Z was a dual GK110 Graphics Card.

This is a single GM200 Graphics Card.

There are a lot of rumors about the $1300 pricetag...

ps: Dam Marvel Heroes. I missed the announcement xD.

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@Coseniath said:
@insane_metalist said:

@Truth_Hurts_U said:

Finally a real upgrade! I just hope the rumors of $1,300+ are not true. Buying a custom one as soon as possible. :)

Titan Z was $3000 when it came out, I am assuming this Titan X will be the same.

Titan Z was a dual GK110 Graphics Card.

This is a single GM200 Graphics Card.

There are a lot of rumors about the $1300 pricetag...

ps: Dam Marvel Heroes. I missed the announcement xD.

So it's technically Titan Black with 12GB? Well than, it'll be around $1500.

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@insane_metalist: titan black is kepler. This is maxwell. This may mean we will see next generation from NVidia soon though

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@horgen: Probably late summer or so. 700 series was around way too long. People keep saying, 900 series is new (right now). I kept tellling that's it's been out half a year now and not too long from now new gen will come out. But they wouldn't listen. Well here's that proof. I can't believe AMD hasn't said, shit about their line while Nvidia is preparing to release new gen of cards already.

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#11  Edited By Coseniath
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@insane_metalist said:

@horgen: Probably late summer or so. 700 series was around way too long. People keep saying, 900 series is new (right now). I kept tellling that's it's been out half a year now and not too long from now new gen will come out. But they wouldn't listen. Well here's that proof. I can't believe AMD hasn't said, shit about their line while Nvidia is preparing to release new gen of cards already.

What new gen? This is just the big Maxwell chip.

Nvidia took the advantage of AMD that didn't bring anything and released the full GM204 as GTX980. Just like they did with GTX680 when they saw 7970 performance.

GTX 980, 970 = GM204.

TitanX, prolly GTX980ti = GM200.

These are all the same gen.

Next gen from Nvidia is Pascal which will appear somewhere in 2016 with 14/16nm chips and HBM.

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#12  Edited By insane_metalist
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@Coseniath: I know that Titan X is GM200. I'm talking about Nvidia releasing Pascal cards which I don't think will be 2016. Usually generation of Nvidia's cards lasts about a year. I think, they're gonna come out with new cards late summer or sometime this fall.

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@insane_metalist: Well Pascal will be 14/16nm.

I would be very optimistic to say that 14/16nm would be ready this year for GPUs.

Also Nvidia's last two generations had 2 years cycle. Fermi 4xx to 5xx (25/03/2010), Kepler 6xx to 7xx (22/03/2012). Kepler actually lasted for 2,5 years.

NVIDIA Updates GPU Roadmap; Unveils Pascal Architecture For 2016

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@Coseniath said:
@insane_metalist said:

@horgen: Probably late summer or so. 700 series was around way too long. People keep saying, 900 series is new (right now). I kept tellling that's it's been out half a year now and not too long from now new gen will come out. But they wouldn't listen. Well here's that proof. I can't believe AMD hasn't said, shit about their line while Nvidia is preparing to release new gen of cards already.

What new gen? This is just the big Maxwell chip.

Nvidia took the advantage of AMD that didn't bring anything and released the full GM204 as GTX980. Just like they did with GTX680 when they saw 7970 performance.

GTX 980, 970 = GM204.

TitanX, prolly GTX980ti = GM200.

These are all the same gen.

Next gen from Nvidia is Pascal which will appear somewhere in 2016 with 14/16nm chips and HBM.

New gen as the 700th series was to the 600th series. That's what I meant at least.

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@horgen said:

New gen as the 700th series was to the 600th series. That's what I meant at least.

@horgen, @insane_metalist: Oh, if by new gen you meant new series and not architecture then my bad.

Well then I think too that we might see new series before pascal, but I don't have the slightest idea of what name they will use (10xx? or G1xx/G2xx all over again?).

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@Coseniath: we should see a new series. It would be weird if they don't release a full GM 200 chip for gaming. And I really mean a full sized one, nothing like we saw with 780 and then 780Ti.

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#17  Edited By Coseniath
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@horgen: This remains a mystery until Nvidia release the specs of TitanX at least.

I read rumors that Nvidia might have DP crippled on Titan too like GTX980. If they did they no doubt labeling it as an enthusiast gaming GPU rather than a mix of light computing too (so this would be the full GM200 for gaming). And we need to see if the core count would be 3072 (is the full chip 3072???).

Still nomatter what I still see a "GTX780" (maybe with 3-4 SMXs disabled) type coming with maybe 2560 cores and sitting between the huge gap of perfomance 980vsTitanX.

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@Coseniath: why call it Titan then? Thought it was part of the thing with Titan, being a mix card.

Yeah I agree with you there. Nvidia will release something inbetween Titan X and GTX 980. But I don't see why Titan X should be the only top end card they release. The price jump from second best to best will be a doubling in price or more if the rumoured 1300$ is true.

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#19  Edited By Truth_Hurts_U
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If the Titan X has at least 1,100 Boost clock and 24 x 128 = 3,072 cores. Your looking at around 45% increase over GTX 980.

GTX 960 $199 ( 8 core packs 2GB RAM ) Base

GTX 970 $329 ( 13 core packs 4GB RAM) + $130 vs base

GTX 980 $549 ( 16 core packs 4GB RAM) + $220 vs 970*, + $350 vs 960**

GTX Titan X I'm thinking $310* or $350** + $140* or + $100** (for 3 times the RAM*) = $999

Anything more then $999 is super overpriced.

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@Truth_Hurts_U: rumour about the price is 1300 or 1350$ And it is nVidia...

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#21 Truth_Hurts_U
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@horgen:

Yeah, the rumors have been true so far. There is no way in heck I'll buy it if it's more then $999. There would be no room for custom variants which would already be $100+ more then ref.

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#22  Edited By horgen  Moderator
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@Truth_Hurts_U: Personally not buying a GPU if it costs that much. 999$ is to much for me. The 390X at 650 or 699$ instead then. I will put a water block on it anyway so the reference or third party cooling that follows will only be used for a short time anyway. I do want a non reference PCB though, for the usually improved OC that follows them.

With all this said. If the Titan X has core clocks north of 2000 MHz, effective RAM speed at well over 8GHz and performance is more than twice than that of the GTX 980, I might buy it.

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They also released an UE4 tech demo that was running on a Titan X in 30 fps:

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I think both companies know the performance of each opposite GPU.

390X will be around 40% (assuming it will take the max advantage of 40% more cores) better than 290X, placing it around 20% faster than GTX980*

So I think that TItanX is out of reach and AMD will target $700 market with 390X. That's probably the reason why Nvidia will release a Titan at such a high price.

Nvidia will probably answer this with a smaller GM200 die.

I can't wait to see the next GPU battle.

*Last benchmarks with more mature drivers on GTX980 show that even a 18%!!! (1180Mhz) OCed Sapphire Tri-X 290X cannot even touch a default clocked Asus Poseidon GTX980 sitting like 15% slower in a gaming evolved title like battlefield 4.

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@horgen:

I agree even $999 is to much, for old 28nm. It's been around for a long time now and cost per chip has decreased. But there is no way they are going to pass that savings along. They will just point at the ridiculous amount of RAM.

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So what's the real specs of this thing? Or is this another get excited for our new toy! It looks like our other toys, but we don't want to tell you why it's better or how just yet. But BE EXCITED!

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#27  Edited By Truth_Hurts_U
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@ribstaylor1:

The only info we have right now that is solid.

Power connectors are 8 and 6 pin.

It will have 12GB of RAM.

Everything else is speculation. We should know soon. In the next 2 weeks.

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will be priced at ~$1350,mark my words and the idiots will still buy it

i guarantee you this is the full gm 200 either.This has 1 or 2 SMX disabled.

next titan will be even more expensive

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@Coseniath said:

I think both companies know the performance of each opposite GPU.

390X will be around 40% (assuming it will take the max advantage of 40% more cores) better than 290X, placing it around 20% faster than GTX980*

So I think that TItanX is out of reach and AMD will target $700 market with 390X. That's probably the reason why Nvidia will release a Titan at such a high price.

Nvidia will probably answer this with a smaller GM200 die.

I can't wait to see the next GPU battle.

*Last benchmarks with more mature drivers on GTX980 show that even a 18%!!! (1180Mhz) OCed Sapphire Tri-X 290X cannot even touch a default clocked Asus Poseidon GTX980 sitting like 15% slower in a gaming evolved title like battlefield 4.

Unless VRAM limitations, shouldn't the 390X (with rumour specs of 4096 GCN cores) perform very well at 1440P and higher res?

@ShepardCommandr said:

will be priced at ~$1350,mark my words and the idiots will still buy it

i guarantee you this is the full gm 200 either.This has 1 or 2 SMX disabled.

next titan will be even more expensive

I wonder if they will pull that trick again. I'll wait for a fully fledged GM200 core in that case. Or go for team red. First of all I need to save up some money though. :P

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@horgen: I suppose it will not have any problems at 1080/1440p like most of 4GB today's GPUs.

On the other hand if this GPU is so powerful as rumors saying about, its only 4GB VRAM will be definitely its bottleneck. And when this GPU would be able to deliver more detail at 60FPS, its VRAM will not allow it.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Imagine how much that'll cost!

More than most people's machines

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#32  Edited By Cyberdot
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Knowing Nvidia, it will cost as much as my car.

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@Coseniath said:

@horgen: I suppose it will not have any problems at 1080/1440p like most of 4GB today's GPUs.

On the other hand if this GPU is so powerful as rumors saying about, its only 4GB VRAM will be definitely its bottleneck. And when this GPU would be able to deliver more detail at 60FPS, its VRAM will not allow it.

It's promising though, if the amount of VRAM is the limiting part. That it actually has enough power to run 4K is quite an achievement.

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Prediction based on

"NVIDIA CEO claimed that the card will be faster than even the previous generation dual-GPU flagship product by NVIDIA, the GeForce GTX TITAN-Z."

http://www.techpowerup.com/210448/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-pictured-up-close.html

Here is were I think it will land on Nvidia's chart.

*Based on clock being lower then GTX 980, 970, 960.

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Better than Titan Z? Really? New architecture and that massive jump?!?

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#36  Edited By BassMan
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That is some terrible scaling for the Titan Z on that benchmark. The Titan Z should be capable of much better performance than a single Titan Black.

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#37  Edited By Coseniath
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+1 to what @Truth_Hurts_U said. I read it too that Titan X will be faster than Titan Z.

This was not a surpise, it has happened in almost every architecture leap between previous dual flagship chips and next flagship chips.

7950GX2 < 8800Ultra, 9800GX2 < GTX285, GTX295 < GTX580, GTX590 < Titan.

I wouldn't be surprised if Titan Z < Titan X...

edit: And one troll fact Voodoo 2 SLI < Voodoo 3 3000. xD

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@horgen:

Personally I think it might hit 16k or a little higher. But I was being a little conservative.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Imagine how much that'll cost!

Just looking at it, I say it cost like 1000 dollars at least.

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@Truth_Hurts_U: Well damn, that is closing in to 10K above a non OC GTX 680. Heck if it goes above 16.4K, it is 9K above my GTX 680 when I OC it as much as I manage. I really want to get my hands one of these full sized GM chip. I really hope they release something ala 780Ti for the GM 200 in a few months time. Basically equally good for gaming, but half the price of a Titan.. Well almost.

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#41  Edited By Coseniath
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@horgen: Previous Titan was released in March while a lesser flagship chip (GTX780) was released in May.

Now Nvidia will launch Titan X in the next week (mid March).

AMD will launch new GPUs at June. I expect to see a non-Titan GM200 as a counter to 390X and the difference in time between Titan and non Titan flagship chip seems near the same as the previous one.

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@Coseniath said:

@horgen: Previous Titan was released in March while a lesser flagship chip (GTX780) was released in May.

Now Nvidia will launch Titan X in the next week (mid March).

AMD will launch new GPUs at June. I expect to see a non-Titan GM200 as a counter to 390X and the difference in time between Titan and non Titan flagship chip seems near the same as the previous one.

Well timing wise it could suit me nicely. I do wonder how much we will hear about 20/16nm node before these cards are released.

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@horgen said:

Well timing wise it could suit me nicely. I do wonder how much we will hear about 20/16nm node before these cards are released.

I do wonder about this too...

After a year (2014) full on information about fabrication proccess, suddenly from the begining of 2015, noone talks about it...

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@Coseniath: perhaps they I want to focus on other things to not hurt their sales of new gpus. My current card is 28nm, I do hope 20 or 16 nm is out before I upgrade.

I think it is either a delay again, or it is soon finished, and they are quiet about it do people wont hold off their purchase of new gpus

Edit: search around a little and read that maybe 300 series from AMD will be 20nm..

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@horgen: Yeah I heard these rumors too, but only as rumors and estimates...

We will have a busy June :D.

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New Titan X benchmarks.

http://videocardz.com/55013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-3dmark-performance

Kinda disappointed... Stock isn't very good.

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Wait until Pascal for the large jump.

So in 2016.

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@RyviusARC said:

Wait until Pascal for the large jump.

So in 2016.

This is what I am doing. I have a GTX970 to hold me over until the top-end Pascals are here.

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#49  Edited By RyviusARC
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@Lach0121 said:

@RyviusARC said:

Wait until Pascal for the large jump.

So in 2016.

This is what I am doing. I have a GTX970 to hold me over until the top-end Pascals are here.

I have 2 970s so I will probably wait until late 2016 early 2017 before upgrading again.

Unless there is a must have game that my 2 970s couldn't handle on max settings.

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#50 thereal25
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So, will this card be able to handle 4k gaming at decent frame rates and high settings?

My guess, is yes - but only just.