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#1 DarkRecruit
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PSU. It was OCed to 550/428. I had a 300 watt Enlight PSU. I'm using a spare PSU from an old PC, 250 watts, can't play game or anything demanding. Now, if I get a 400watt or 500watt PSU, would the fuse for my room get fried ever again? I heard a quick burst after playing Oblvion for a couple of hours, then all my plugs shut off. Was the PSU fine, just that the plug outlet couldn'thandle it? OR was the outlet fine, just that the quick burst from my PSU frying cause the room's fuse to fry?
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#2 Axecident
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Sry but ROFL!!!!!!!
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#3 mark4091
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you had  300 watt PSU, thats death

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#4 DarkRecruit
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Any way to see how much power I'm using?
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#5 mouthforbathory
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You should've known better to use a much more powerful PSU.
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#6 DarkRecruit
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Ok, I just did some research and the fuse fried because my PSU caused a big surge when it fried. "A 15 amp outlet (or circuit) will supply 1800w of power. The formula is Amps X Volts = Wattage. 15 X 120 = 1800" There is no way my PC was using 1800w.
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#7 DeeJayInphinity
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OH WOW.

You seriously have to read more about this before you dive in. Every guide should tell you to get a freakin' PSU that can handle OCing. A 300w PSU ain't gonna do much for you. :lol:

This is right up there with the guy that cut up his GPU so it would fit in a PCI slot.
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#8 DarkRecruit
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OH WOW.

You seriously have to read more about this before you dive in. Every guide should tell you to get a freakin' PSU that can handle OCing. A 300w PSU ain't gonna do much for you. :lol:

This is right up there with the guy that cut up his GPU so it would fit in a PCI slot.
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Nah I read that stuff....my card actually recommends 400 watts BEFORE OCing it. I just thought I'd play Oblivion for abit......
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#9 d-rtyboy
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depending on his specs and the quality of his PSU he could get away with a 300w PSU... but afaik enlight doesn't make cream of the crop PSUs. I have a 300w PSU in my server...but I'm not OCing that one... and it has a low power gfx card.
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Get a PSU with more than 500w and a really strong 12v rail. Look up some reviews and see how well it does under stress. I suggest you get something made by OCZ, or PcPower&Cooling.
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#11 DarkRecruit
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How about http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2707943&sku=T13-2027    ? Keep in mind I'm OCing my 7600GS from 400/400 to 550/428 and it's recomended 400 watts before the overclock.
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#12 DarkRecruit
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Actually how about http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1828919&CatId=1079?
585 watts. All the reviews are 5 stars.
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#13 CMJR
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Hmm...I dunno about either of those.  They're so cheap it makes me skeptical.

If you're intending to OC, you're better off paying more and getting stable power.  Cheap power supplies are not built for OCing, generally speaking...

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#14 Cyborg-21
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PSU. It was OCed to 550/428. I had a 300 watt Enlight PSU. I'm using a spare PSU from an old PC, 250 watts, can't play game or anything demanding. Now, if I get a 400watt or 500watt PSU, would the fuse for my room get fried ever again? I heard a quick burst after playing Oblvion for a couple of hours, then all my plugs shut off. Was the PSU fine, just that the plug outlet couldn'thandle it? OR was the outlet fine, just that the quick burst from my PSU frying cause the room's fuse to fry?DarkRecruit
The 7600GS at stock would have run fine on the 300W but since you overclocked it....
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#15 9mmSpliff
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Dude a 300wt would run the 7600gs. Even a mediocre one. But honestly a good 350wt would run it better. I wouldnt go lower then 450wt now-a-days just cause, that would be my minimum. I know my 400wt Antec Smartpower could run that 7600gs no problem.
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#16 9mmSpliff
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This is the lowest I would go for terms of quality and price
Thermaltake TR-2 430wthttp://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15489&vpn=W0070&manufacture=THERMALTAKE
These would power as good tho
Antec SmartPower 350wt
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=14679&vpn=SP-350&manufacture=ANTEC
Enermax P Series 350wthttp://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=13570&vpn=EG365P-VE(FMA24)&manufacture=ENERMAX
But my choice to power that card and have the best for the bunch for true clean power and also a tad more future compatibility with other future upgrades.
Antec Truepower 2 480wthttp://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=15928&vpn=TPII-480%20BLUE&manufacture=ANTEC

Antec Smart Power 500wt
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=17700&vpn=SP-500&manufacture=ANTEC

I would choose the TruePower, because that is Antecs top line and it can handle overclocks (IF thats what you like to do) better then the SmartPower. Trust me, spend the little extra cash on the PSU, because its like the heart of your system, you want a clean heart....right....i hope :) If you dont overclock then the SmartPower is for you.
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#17 jjjhsmith
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Correct me if I'm wrong but why would overclocking cause the system to draw more power than normal if the card is not volt-modded? I thought it was the additional volts that caused the extra power draw, not just simply overclocking a GPU. If the system is at load, it should be getting full power draw. Of course, it is 1:40 in the morning and I've only slept for 2 hours in 2 days, so maybe I'm just confused.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but why would overclocking cause the system to draw more power than normal if the card is not volt-modded? I thought it was the additional volts that caused the extra power draw, not just simply overclocking a GPU. If the system is at load, it should be getting full power draw. Of course, it is 1:40 in the morning and I've only slept for 2 hours in 2 days, so maybe I'm just confused.jjjhsmith
thats what I thought.... And it sounds like your house electrics arent properly grounded if that happenned... in which case you have bigger things to worry about than a new psu for your comp. Whenever a power surge happens and it goes back into the plug, the surge should always be grounded(go into a metal rod stuck into the ground) Im not sure about America but its the law to set up electric wiring like this in the U.K.
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#19 crazytom49
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OH WOW.

You seriously have to read more about this before you dive in. Every guide should tell you to get a freakin' PSU that can handle OCing. A 300w PSU ain't gonna do much for you. :lol:

This is right up there with the guy that cut up his GPU so it would fit in a PCI slot.
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lol, i OCed mine with a 280W psu and have had problems...
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#20 Cyborg-21
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]OH WOW.

You seriously have to read more about this before you dive in. Every guide should tell you to get a freakin' PSU that can handle OCing. A 300w PSU ain't gonna do much for you. :lol:

This is right up there with the guy that cut up his GPU so it would fit in a PCI slot.
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lol, i OCed mine with a 280W psu and have had problems...

What problems did you have ?
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With modern components a 300w will rarely provide sufficient power, unless it's 1) extremely high quality, and 2) in a system that demands very little power. Get a 450w or better, and make sure it has a decent 12v rail. Oh, and make sure your other components weren't fried along with the PSU.
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#22 crazytom49
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[QUOTE="crazytom49"][QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]OH WOW.

You seriously have to read more about this before you dive in. Every guide should tell you to get a freakin' PSU that can handle OCing. A 300w PSU ain't gonna do much for you. :lol:

This is right up there with the guy that cut up his GPU so it would fit in a PCI slot.
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lol, i OCed mine with a 280W psu and have had problems...

What problems did you have ?

Stuff like the screen turning into a mess of stripes after extended usage, crashes when playing games, temps of 70C+
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#23 mushi799
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PSU. It was OCed to 550/428. I had a 300 watt Enlight PSU. I'm using a spare PSU from an old PC, 250 watts, can't play game or anything demanding. Now, if I get a 400watt or 500watt PSU, would the fuse for my room get fried ever again? I heard a quick burst after playing Oblvion for a couple of hours, then all my plugs shut off. Was the PSU fine, just that the plug outlet couldn'thandle it? OR was the outlet fine, just that the quick burst from my PSU frying cause the room's fuse to fry?DarkRecruit
surge protector? It's about $10.
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#24 jjjhsmith
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My power supply is only a 250 W (but dell rated so supposedly its closer to a 300ish) and I've never had problems with overclocking my comp. Luckily its a northwood core so it's not pulling as much juice as the newer (lol newer) P4s but it really seems like you should have been. My guess is you didnt have a surge protector.
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#25 DirkVDV01
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I would recommend a line conditioner and a surge protector, or a UPS
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#26 DSgamer64
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One would think that if you are over clocking you would get a better PSU no?
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#27 burnsniper
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What else was going on in your house at the time? All outlets on a circuit that is usually designed (in a ordinary house) with circuit breakers/fueses that will allow up 15 amps to travel through the fuse. More than likely the circuit you computer is on has some other appliances on it that draw lots of amperage (air conditioners, irons, hair dryers, and toasters are notorious for the amount of amperage they use) that when turned on at the some time you were over clocking blue the fuses in the house. Your computer should also be provided with a surge protection that is connected to a grounded outlet (US 3 prong outlets are not always grounded). A UPS would allow you to shut down your computer during a power outage but is probably overkill for your computer. Finally, line conditions are a waste of money - they do nothing - it is a PSU's job to take a fluctuating current and transform it into a stable current.
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#28 d-rtyboy
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Correct me if I'm wrong but why would overclocking cause the system to draw more power than normal if the card is not volt-modded? I thought it was the additional volts that caused the extra power draw, not just simply overclocking a GPU. If the system is at load, it should be getting full power draw. Of course, it is 1:40 in the morning and I've only slept for 2 hours in 2 days, so maybe I'm just confused.jjjhsmith
Voltage is just the potential for the amount of current that can move through a particular circuit. So, if you reduce the amount of resistance, it will increase the amount of current... increasing the overall power draw of the system.
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Ouch....
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Get a PSU with more than 500w and a really strong 12v rail. Look up some reviews and see how well it does under stress. I suggest you get something made by OCZ, or PcPower&Cooling.DeeJayInphinity

More then 500w is certainly not needed especially with his hardware as long as its a good brand.  I am running and have been running my setup off 500w OC with 0 problems.

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Ok, I just did some research and the fuse fried because my PSU caused a big surge when it fried. "A 15 amp outlet (or circuit) will supply 1800w of power. The formula is Amps X Volts = Wattage. 15 X 120 = 1800" There is no way my PC was using 1800w.DarkRecruit

lol. I don't think so either

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#32 dunamistheou
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A 500-750w PSU. For your card, a 450w or so would be fine, but I'd go for a 550ish just for future stuff. :)
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#33 damzor
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i'm surprised that you didn't blow your PSU out doing that. i recommend at 500+ watt PSU for safety and for upgradeability.
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#34 muppet1010
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[QUOTE="dunamistheou"]A 500-750w PSU. For your card, a 450w or so would be fine, but I'd go for a 550ish just for future stuff. :)

lol you dont need a 750w psu.... a fairly decently branded 400w psu would do it no problems. or a 450w psu just to be on the paranoid side. If you intend on upgrading or gettinga newer rig then it might be worht concidering a more powerful psu so it can take extra strain or be transferred to your new build
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#35 Cyborg-21
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My power supply is only a 250 W (but dell rated so supposedly its closer to a 300ish) and I've never had problems with overclocking my comp. Luckily its a northwood core so it's not pulling as much juice as the newer (lol newer) P4s but it really seems like you should have been. My guess is you didnt have a surge protector.jjjhsmith
Yeah the Dell PSUs are under-rated. In the Dell forums, people are running 8800GTX cards on the 375W PSU that's supplied with the Dimension 9200 !