Lowest amount of money for GPU that plays all games at high-ultra at 1920x1080

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#1 Wopps
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Hey I'm just wondering what the lowest price cut off for a GPU that would play every game out there at high-ultra at 1080p. I'm considering getting a card like that depending on the price because my gtx 460 is a little underwhelming. Thanks guys!

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#2 kraken2109
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It's not worth upgrading a GTX 460. It should be playing everything on high at 1080p anyway.

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#3 GummiRaccoon
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My 6950 does everything high-ultra at 1920x1080.

However the 460 is an alright card, I wouldn't upgrade until nvidia is done rolling out their new cards and ask again then. If anything, if your motherboard supports SLI I would get a 2nd 460

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#4 Wopps
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Has it been announced when the new Nvidia cards will be out?

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#5 MonsieurX
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A 2nd 460 would be the best option if your mobo supports it
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#6 SF_KiLLaMaN
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A 2nd 460 would be the best option if your mobo supports itMonsieurX
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#7 deactivated-5a9b3f32ef4e9
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It depends what you mean by Ultra; my 6990 can't play every game smoothly on Ultra.

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#8 GamesRing
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i think that hd 5870 can play much games at ultra and at 1080p smoothly(and maybe all of them)

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#9 Gammit10
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My 560 Ti won't even all games on Ultra at 1080p (Metro). I don't know what single-card solution will.

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#10 ChubbyGuy40
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Get another 460. Your motherboard probably doesn't support it though.

My 560 Ti won't even all games on Ultra at 1080p (Metro). I don't know what single-card solution will.

Gammit10

My 570 is quite capable of playing Metro on Ultra at 2048x1152 in DX11. Hovers around 20-30FPS, depending on location of course. DX9 Ultra shouldn't be hard on any modern card.

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#11 C_Rule
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Get another 460. Your motherboard probably doesn't support it though.

[QUOTE="Gammit10"]

My 560 Ti won't even all games on Ultra at 1080p (Metro). I don't know what single-card solution will.

ChubbyGuy40

My 570 is quite capable of playing Metro on Ultra at 2048x1152 in DX11. Hovers around 20-30FPS, depending on location of course. DX9 Ultra shouldn't be hard on any modern card.

You can't really say your card is capable of something, if it's only getting 20-30 fps.
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#12 achilles614
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What games have given your 460 problems? Have you tried OCing it? edit: just saw it's a 768mb version. Well you can get a 2nd one although in my experience (460 1gb sli) it wasn't really worth it over the single card, not to mention god awful temps.
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#13 mitu123
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It's not worth upgrading a GTX 460. It should be playing everything on high at 1080p anyway.

kraken2109

Um, not for some games.

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#14 mitu123
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What games have given your 460 problems? Have you tried OCing it? edit: just saw it's a 768mb version. Well you can get a 2nd one although in my experience (460 1gb sli) it wasn't really worth it over the single card, not to mention god awful temps.achilles614
Did you get a gpu cooler or better case with airflow?

Because while my 1st 460 can hit 80 degrees, my 2nd 460 never goes beyond 60 degrees, and my airflow is far from the best. I want to get a better case though.

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#15 C_Rule
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What games have given your 460 problems? Have you tried OCing it? edit: just saw it's a 768mb version. Well you can get a 2nd one although in my experience (460 1gb sli) it wasn't really worth it over the single card, not to mention god awful temps.achilles614
Umm... 460 is among the coolest running graphics cards.
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#16 achilles614
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[QUOTE="achilles614"] Did you get a gpu cooler or better case with airflow?

Because while my 1st 460 can hit 80 degrees, my 2nd 460 never goes beyond 60 degrees, and my airflow is far from the best. I want to get a better case though.

mitu123
HAF 922 with a modular psu with pretty good airflow. And 80 is what the top card hit which was way too high for my baby :(
[QUOTE="achilles614"]What games have given your 460 problems? Have you tried OCing it? edit: just saw it's a 768mb version. Well you can get a 2nd one although in my experience (460 1gb sli) it wasn't really worth it over the single card, not to mention god awful temps.C_Rule
Umm... 460 is among the coolest running graphics cards.

Should have specified bad temps in SLI which is why it wasn't worth it for the performance. With one card I'm able to stay under 65*c with the core at 950mhz.
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#17 mitu123
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^Wait...you overclocked it? No wonder it gets so hot. And why not get a gpu cooler, you'll drop between 10-20 degrees with it.

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#18 achilles614
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^Wait...you overclocked it? No wonder it gets so hot. And why not get a gpu cooler, you'll drop between 10-20 degrees with it.

mitu123
It stays very cool when overclocked so there hasn't been a need for an aftermarket cooler. It was when I put it in SLI that it got so hot (which honestly isn't shocking, just not something I wanted to deal with for the small performance) even after down-clocking the core to 700mhz which is what I did when running two of them it still kept the top card at 80* c.
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#19 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

^Wait...you overclocked it? No wonder it gets so hot. And why not get a gpu cooler, you'll drop between 10-20 degrees with it.

achilles614

It stays very cool when overclocked so there hasn't been a need for an aftermarket cooler. It was when I put it in SLI that it got so hot (which honestly isn't shocking, just not something I wanted to deal with for the small performance) even after down-clocking the core to 700mhz which is what I did when running two of them it still kept the top card at 80* c.

It would be a lot cooler if you had gotten one definitely for SLI, lol. What was your fan speed at on the top card?

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#20 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

^Wait...you overclocked it? No wonder it gets so hot. And why not get a gpu cooler, you'll drop between 10-20 degrees with it.

achilles614
It stays very cool when overclocked so there hasn't been a need for an aftermarket cooler. It was when I put it in SLI that it got so hot (which honestly isn't shocking, just not something I wanted to deal with for the small performance) even after down-clocking the core to 700mhz which is what I did when running two of them it still kept the top card at 80* c.

What case do you have?
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#21 mitu123
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[QUOTE="achilles614"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

^Wait...you overclocked it? No wonder it gets so hot. And why not get a gpu cooler, you'll drop between 10-20 degrees with it.

C_Rule

It stays very cool when overclocked so there hasn't been a need for an aftermarket cooler. It was when I put it in SLI that it got so hot (which honestly isn't shocking, just not something I wanted to deal with for the small performance) even after down-clocking the core to 700mhz which is what I did when running two of them it still kept the top card at 80* c.

What case do you have?

He said HAF 922.

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80C is pretty good for a multi-GPU overclocked setup.

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#23 kraken2109
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

It's not worth upgrading a GTX 460. It should be playing everything on high at 1080p anyway.

mitu123

Um, not for some games.

Other than metro2033 (which really isn't worth buying an expensive gpu for since it;s not a great game), it should. What other games were you thinking of?
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You can't really say your card is capable of something, if it's only getting 20-30 fps.C_Rule

Except it is quite capable. Other factors such as CPU hold it back from better performance.

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#25 silversix_
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Get another 460. Your motherboard probably doesn't support it though.

[QUOTE="Gammit10"]

My 560 Ti won't even all games on Ultra at 1080p (Metro). I don't know what single-card solution will.

ChubbyGuy40

My 570 is quite capable of playing Metro on Ultra at 2048x1152 in DX11. Hovers around 20-30FPS, depending on location of course. DX9 Ultra shouldn't be hard on any modern card.

Metro is stupidly optimised i saw my fps dropping to 14 multiple times when looking at bright light... 1.5k rig getting 14fps... Most of the times fps is in the mid 40's though.

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#26 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

It's not worth upgrading a GTX 460. It should be playing everything on high at 1080p anyway.

kraken2109

Um, not for some games.

Other than metro2033 (which really isn't worth buying an expensive gpu for since it;s not a great game), it should. What other games were you thinking of?

GTAIV+expansions, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, The Witcher 2, Shogun 2, if you're talking about getting near 60FPS with them constantly good luck with that, and those games make you go under 30FPS at times, during the huge battles of Shogun 2 it can normally get under 30FPS for example. Should I post a screen, lol.

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i think that hd 5870 can play much games at ultra and at 1080p smoothly(and maybe all of them)

GamesRing
Sadly, it can only do medium on BF3 at 50-60fp/s on 1080p. No AA.
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Um, not for some games.

mitu123

Other than metro2033 (which really isn't worth buying an expensive gpu for since it;s not a great game), it should. What other games were you thinking of?

GTAIV+expansions, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, The Witcher 2, Shogun 2, if you're talking about getting near 60FPS with them constantly good luck with that, and those games make you go under 30FPS at times, during the huge battles of Shogun 2 it can normally get under 30FPS for example. Should I post a screen, lol.

I get a solid 45fps average in Crysis high 1080p, rarely dropping below 30. GTAIV runs fine with FXAA (well as fine as it'll get, even people with brilliant rigs have random issues). Don't have the wticher. I remember playing the shogun 2 demo a while back, I don't understand why it uses so much gpu since it didn't look great, but i'd assume CPU plays a big part in that game.

I'm pretty happy that my 2-3year old card is still doing this well.

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#29 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] Other than metro2033 (which really isn't worth buying an expensive gpu for since it;s not a great game), it should. What other games were you thinking of?kraken2109

GTAIV+expansions, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, The Witcher 2, Shogun 2, if you're talking about getting near 60FPS with them constantly good luck with that, and those games make you go under 30FPS at times, during the huge battles of Shogun 2 it can normally get under 30FPS for example. Should I post a screen, lol.

I get a solid 45fps average in Crysis high 1080p, rarely dropping below 30. GTAIV runs fine with FXAA (well as fine as it'll get, even people with brilliant rigs have random issues). Don't have the wticher. I remember playing the shogun 2 demo a while back, I don't understand why it uses so much gpu since it didn't look great, but i'd assume CPU plays a big part in that game.

I'm pretty happy that my 2-3year old card is still doing this well.

You don't get under 30FPS with GTA4 with that setup in various areas? How when my setup is stronger?:P

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#30 Hellsing2o2
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My 560 Ti won't even all games on Ultra at 1080p (Metro). I don't know what single-card solution will.

Gammit10

Metro 2033 is horribly coded/unoptimized.

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6950 nuff' said :) i have 1 myself and im FULLY pleased with it

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[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] GTAIV+expansions, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, The Witcher 2, Shogun 2, if you're talking about getting near 60FPS with them constantly good luck with that, and those games make you go under 30FPS at times, during the huge battles of Shogun 2 it can normally get under 30FPS for example. Should I post a screen, lol.

mitu123

I get a solid 45fps average in Crysis high 1080p, rarely dropping below 30. GTAIV runs fine with FXAA (well as fine as it'll get, even people with brilliant rigs have random issues). Don't have the wticher. I remember playing the shogun 2 demo a while back, I don't understand why it uses so much gpu since it didn't look great, but i'd assume CPU plays a big part in that game.

I'm pretty happy that my 2-3year old card is still doing this well.

You don't get under 30FPS with GTA4 with that setup in various areas? How when my setup is stronger?:P

I get occasional drops. GTA is just horridly designed :P
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] GTAIV+expansions, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, The Witcher 2, Shogun 2, if you're talking about getting near 60FPS with them constantly good luck with that, and those games make you go under 30FPS at times, during the huge battles of Shogun 2 it can normally get under 30FPS for example. Should I post a screen, lol.

mitu123

I get a solid 45fps average in Crysis high 1080p, rarely dropping below 30. GTAIV runs fine with FXAA (well as fine as it'll get, even people with brilliant rigs have random issues). Don't have the wticher. I remember playing the shogun 2 demo a while back, I don't understand why it uses so much gpu since it didn't look great, but i'd assume CPU plays a big part in that game.

I'm pretty happy that my 2-3year old card is still doing this well.

You don't get under 30FPS with GTA4 with that setup in various areas? How when my setup is stronger?:P

SLi

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#34 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] I get a solid 45fps average in Crysis high 1080p, rarely dropping below 30. GTAIV runs fine with FXAA (well as fine as it'll get, even people with brilliant rigs have random issues). Don't have the wticher. I remember playing the shogun 2 demo a while back, I don't understand why it uses so much gpu since it didn't look great, but i'd assume CPU plays a big part in that game.

I'm pretty happy that my 2-3year old card is still doing this well.

GummiRaccoon

You don't get under 30FPS with GTA4 with that setup in various areas? How when my setup is stronger?:P

SLi

Which is what I have used.:D

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#35 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] You don't get under 30FPS with GTA4 with that setup in various areas? How when my setup is stronger?:P

mitu123

SLi

Which is what I have used.:D

Turn it off and see what your performance is like. GTA is coded like garbage. Sometimes with stuff like that, you gotta make it all simple like for them.

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#36 mitu123
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^The game is more cpu extensive if anything, lol, I went from a Athlon II X4 645 to what I have now and what a massive difference.

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#37 jcbullen
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Meh, Metro shouldn't be used as a benchmark for anything. I can only run it on max settings at 1680x1050 with 45-60 FPS. If I crank up the resolution, I need to tone down the AA to make it playable.

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#38 GummiRaccoon
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Meh, Metro shouldn't be used as a benchmark for anything. I can only run it on max settings at 1680x1050 with 45-60 FPS. If I crank up the resolution, I need to tone down the AA to make it playable.

jcbullen

The reason it is used as such is exactly why you don't think it should be.

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80C is pretty good for a multi-GPU overclocked setup.

Postmortem123

maybe on your standards maybe 70c is more do able.

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#40 Bruin1986
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I currently have an OCed GTX 460 as well. I can run pretty much everything on high 1080p with no problem. I'm likely selling it though and picking up whatever the midrange Kepler card is, such as the 660Ti if they indeed make one.

I did this intentionally when I built my rig in Summer 2010. I've got an i7 @ 4.0ghz (could get it to 4.4 easily) which I won't have to touch for quite some time and I can just pop a new GPU in there whenever I want.

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#41 jcbullen
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[QUOTE="jcbullen"]

Meh, Metro shouldn't be used as a benchmark for anything. I can only run it on max settings at 1680x1050 with 45-60 FPS. If I crank up the resolution, I need to tone down the AA to make it playable.

GummiRaccoon

The reason it is used as such is exactly why you don't think it should be.

There are games that look better than Metro that I can run better than Metro.
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#42 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="jcbullen"]

Meh, Metro shouldn't be used as a benchmark for anything. I can only run it on max settings at 1680x1050 with 45-60 FPS. If I crank up the resolution, I need to tone down the AA to make it playable.

jcbullen

The reason it is used as such is exactly why you don't think it should be.

There are games that look better than Metro that I can run better than Metro.

ok bro

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[QUOTE="jcbullen"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

The reason it is used as such is exactly why you don't think it should be.

GummiRaccoon

There are games that look better than Metro that I can run better than Metro.

ok bro

Crysis with extreme mods looks better and runs better. The "ok bro" response is pretty juvenile seeing as how I wasn't saying anything negative towards you. Although, you are free to respond however you see fit. Have a good night bro, ok?
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#44 Bruin1986
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="jcbullen"] There are games that look better than Metro that I can run better than Metro. jcbullen

ok bro

Crysis with extreme mods looks better and runs better. The "ok bro" response is pretty juvenile seeing as how I wasn't saying anything negative towards you. Although, you are free to respond however you see fit. Have a good night bro, ok?

His point is that Metro is a good benchmarking tool simply because it IS so hard to run. It doesn't matter how good it actually looks in comparison to other games, if everyone benchmarks with the game it gives you a good indicator of computer power because it's so hard to run smoothly.
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#45 GummiRaccoon
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[QUOTE="jcbullen"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

ok bro

Bruin1986

Crysis with extreme mods looks better and runs better. The "ok bro" response is pretty juvenile seeing as how I wasn't saying anything negative towards you. Although, you are free to respond however you see fit. Have a good night bro, ok?

His point is that Metro is a good benchmarking tool simply because it IS so hard to run. It doesn't matter how good it actually looks in comparison to other games, if everyone benchmarks with the game it gives you a good indicator of computer power because it's so hard to run smoothly.

^

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#46 Steve_LowBill
Member since 2012 • 103 Posts
It does play everything at highest resolution . There has been no struggling with any game so far . Very good GPU , I'm trying to save money for a second one and connect them through SLI .